Bundesliga 2019/20

[cptaidan88]

Denmark 86, Holland 88. Most Adidas kits of the 80’s and 90’s. City’s 1993/95 white pin stripe.

They weren't templates as far as I'm aware. Denmark, Holland, City's were all unique (and excellent).

Using a template is understandable to control costs - you sort of come to expect it these days. The manufacturer will generally try and change it up a bit to make each one seem unique. Puma have given a lot of teams the exact same kit.

The Red one is used a lot, but not as much as the white one. This is not a conclusive list by any means, just the ones I'm aware of;

Egypt
Melbourne City
Club Torque
Viktoria Koln
Zwickau
Ingolstadt
Hallescher
Sandhausen

Its the exact same shirt with a different badge. Some of them even have the same sponsor.

 

[Cellarite]

They weren't templates as far as I'm aware. Denmark, Holland, City's were all unique (and excellent).

 

[cptaidan88]

Fair enough. I think its piss poor by Puma, but seems a bit pointless continuing the discussion further.

 

[Cellarite]

Fair enough. I think its piss poor by Puma, but seems a bit pointless continuing the discussion further.

The same template in the same colour is piss poor, I agree. Puma seem to have been using a very similar template for a few years since Leicester won the league.

 

[SebastianBlue]

The same template in the same colour is piss poor, I agree. Puma seem to have been using a very similar template for a few years since Leicester won the league.

That was my point earlier, by the way.

For many teams, they don’t even try to give them something that looks different to other sides, which is very poor, even with the same template.

 

[Cellarite]

That was my point earlier, by the way.

For many teams, they don’t even try to give them something that looks different to other sides, which is very poor, even with the same template.

Fair enough. I see people (not you) year in, year out complaining about template kits as if they’re something new but it’s always been something the kit manufacturers do. The City’s new kits thread upstairs has got me to the end of my tether. I knew some fuckwit would post today asking why our 125 kit can’t be the home kit.

I hope you didn’t think I was being a dick with you. Kits are something I’m really interested in.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Fair enough. I see people (not you) year in, year out complaining about template kits as if they’re something new but it’s always been something the kit manufacturers do. The City’s new kits thread upstairs has got me to the end of my tether. I knew some fuckwit would post today asking why our 125 kit can’t be the home kit.

I hope you didn’t think I was being a dick with you. Kits are something I’m really interested in.

No worries, mate — my missus is an artist / professional designer, which has lead to me having a bit of an interest, as well, hence my posts in the thread.

 

[Rhineland]

You might want to try your luck with @Rhineland for the Köln tickets, however I think the chances are very slim to get any tickets at all.

Köln v Mönchengladbach is THE derby for both teams, so tickets will be hard to get.

Good luck though!

If I am lucky enough to get 2 this week, I'll need them both myself and cannot think of anyone who'd sell his, sorry.

 

[Rhineland]

Not exactly something for the transfers thread, so I put it in here:

Cologne have presented their new maskot Hennes IX in front of 50.000+ at the season's opening festival on Sunday. Hennes VIII will retire and can be visited in his home at the Cologne Zoo. Have mixed feelings about Hennes XIII, beautiful and a media star, but you can have doubts about his success in his main function as lucky charm. I couldn't make it back to Cologne in time from the pre-season friendly in Southampton, so I missed the inthronement of Hennes IX. Wish him all the best and good luck (well, a lot more than his predecessor was able to bring).



https://fc.de/en/fc-info/news/detailpage/details/fc-present-hennes-ix/

 

[JOGAMIGMOG]

I see at the weekend that 1860 Munchen got beat 4-0 in the Bundesliga 3. Sad to see their demise. They're now about 5th bottom of Bundesliga 3. I wish they'd 'do a City' and turn great and stick it to their big neighbours.

 

[cptaidan88]

I see at the weekend that 1860 Munchen got beat 4-0 in the Bundesliga 3. Sad to see their demise. They're now about 5th bottom of Bundesliga 3. I wish they'd 'do a City' and turn great and stick it to their big neighbours.

Not sure if its a demise anymore, more of a malaise.

They're owned by a Sheikh from Jordan but unfortunately he doesn't really have any money. They were demoted to the 4th tier a couple of years ago. Not all bad because it meant they got to go back to the Grünwalder stadion, which is in central Munich. They got promoted in the 17/18 season to the 3rd tier and finished mid table last year.

They've got a bit of an issue if they got promoted again because the stadium doesn't meet standards but no one wants to go back to the Allianz. They and the Munich council are exploring options of renovating it, but a move back to the Olympiastadion is also on the cards.

I think they're 6th bottom to be pedantic :), but I don't think anyone is panicking yet - only 4 games into the season.

 

[bavarian blue]

Not sure if its a demise anymore, more of a malaise.

They're owned by a Sheikh from Jordan but unfortunately he doesn't really have any money. They were demoted to the 4th tier a couple of years ago. Not all bad because it meant they got to go back to the Grünwalder stadion, which is in central Munich. They got promoted in the 17/18 season to the 3rd tier and finished mid table last year.

They've got a bit of an issue if they got promoted again because the stadium doesn't meet standards but no one wants to go back to the Allianz. They and the Munich council are exploring options of renovating it, but a move back to the Olympiastadion is also on the cards.

I think they're 6th bottom to be pedantic :), but I don't think anyone is panicking yet - only 4 games into the season.

I have had a season ticket for the last ten years , it certainly does remind me of supporting City in the bad old days.

 

[cptaidan88]

I have had a season ticket for the last ten years , it certainly does remind me of supporting City in the bad old days.

What are you're thoughts on the stadium situation?

Grünwalder is obviously the dream but dont think even the proposed increase to 18k is enough, and you wouldn't be able to increase it any more. I last went to a game in Nov 16 at the Allianz against Kaiserslautern, and there were 20k there when you were struggling. I think 1860 need a 30-35k ground.

Olympiastadion is too big and maybe lacks the modern hospitality facilities required (where the club makes money).

How do you see it playing out?

 

[bavarian blue]

What are you're thoughts on the stadium situation?

Grünwalder is obviously the dream but dont think even the proposed increase to 18k is enough, and you wouldn't be able to increase it any more. I last went to a game in Nov 16 at the Allianz against Kaiserslautern, and there were 20k there when you were struggling. I think 1860 need a 30-35k ground.

Olympiastadion is too big and maybe lacks the modern hospitality facilities required (where the club makes money).

How do you see it playing out?

The ground is a bit of a dump to be honest after the creature comforts of the Allanz, but you can sense the faithful are happier there.As for a new stadium it's a never ending saga, nobody wants a stadium on their doorstep . I feel they will have to expand Grünwalder but try selling that to the local residents. The club's hierarchy are always arguing between themselves, you feel as though they won't be happy until the club goes into receivership. On a brighter note there are loads of great pubs around the area ,including a small brewery Giesinger brau,I am usually half cut by kick off.

 

[bearcityblu]

I don't know if this is the right place to post but will be in Munich Fri/Sat 20/21st Sept and looking for 2 tickets for the Bayern v Cologne match on the Sat at the Allianz. I know Oktoberfest also starts on the Saturday so expect it to be tough to get tickets. If any German fan can help out or give me some advice would appreciate it. As a City season ticket holder can get 2 tickets for nearly any City home match if anyone in Germany can help me out and wants to catch a City game.

 

[cptaidan88]

I don't know if this is the right place to post but will be in Munich Fri/Sat 20/21st Sept and looking for 2 tickets for the Bayern v Cologne match on the Sat at the Allianz. I know Oktoberfest also starts on the Saturday so expect it to be tough to get tickets. If any German fan can help out or give me some advice would appreciate it. As a City season ticket holder can get 2 tickets for nearly any City home match if anyone in Germany can help me out and wants to catch a City game.

Short of spending a load with Viagogo I think you're shit out of luck, unless you know one of their sponsors. Bayern games are always oversubscribed and in the unlikely event there is any Bayern fans left on this forum (given the current view of City fans towards Bayern Munich), they would be desperate to go to the game themselves. Oktoberfest doesn't help your cause in this regard either.

If you're just keen to see a game, I'd suggest Unterhaching v Sonnenhof Grossaspach in the German 3rd tier on the Saturday at 2pm local time. Not the biggest game, but you can drink beer and stand to watch it. Its a suburb of Munich so takes about 10-15 mins on the S Bahn from the centre of Munich and a further 10 minute walk from either Unterhaching or Fasanenpark station.

 

[Rhineland]

@cptaidan88 You're way outside the area of expertise here, as @bearcityblu demanded help and advice from a German fan!

As a German in the know of German football I would suggest to go to Unterhaching v Sonnenhof Grossaspach in the German 3rd tier on the Saturday at 2pm local time. It's not the biggest game, but you can drink beer and stand to watch it. It's a suburb of Munich and only takes about 10-15 mins on the S-Bahn from the centre of Munich and a further 10 minute walk from either Unterhaching or Fasanenpark station. ;-)

 

[Bembeltown]

Second round of EL qualifier yesterday and an easy 5-0 against Swiss second division side Vaduz (They are actually from Lichtenstein).

Return leg will be sold out as usual means Vaduz will play in a ground that holds more people than the total population of Lichtenstein.

Got to love Football.

On the weekend we play the first round of the DFB cup at our friends of Waldhof Mannheim. Going to be interesting, we don´t look particular good at the moment and Mannheim had a great start to their league campaign.

 

[Rhineland]

DFB-Pokal 1st round results so far, not too many upsets, some Bundesliga teams were struggleing at their games, but won nontheless (giant killing matches - no giants involved though)

Würzburger Kickers – TSG 1899 Hoffenheim 3 - 3, Hoffenheim win on penalties (5-4)
FSV Salmrohr – Holstein Kiel
VfB Germania Halberstadt – 1. FC Union Berlin
1. FC Kaiserslautern – 1. FSV Mainz 05 2 - 0
SV Rödinghausen – SC Paderborn
Hallescher FC – VfL Wolfsburg
SV Atlas Delmenhorst - SV Werder Bremen 1 - 6
KFC Uerdingen - Borussia Dortmund 0 - 2
SV Sandhausen - Borussia Mönchengladbach 0 - 1
Chemnitzer FC - Hamburger SV
SV Waldhof Mannheim - Eintracht Frankfurt
Alemannia Aachen - Bayer 04 Leverkusen 1 - 4
TuS Dassendorf - Dynamo Dresden 0 - 3
FC 08 Villingen - Fortuna Düsseldorf 1 - 3 aet
KSV Baunatal - VfL Bochum 2 - 3
FC Energie Cottbus - FC Bayern München
Karlsruher SC - Hannover 96
MSV Duisburg - SpVgg Greuther Fürth
FC Oberneuland - SV Darmstadt 98
SV Wehen Wiesbaden - 1. FC Köln
FC Hansa Rostock - VfB Stuttgart
1. FC Saarbrücken - SSV Jahn Regensburg
SV Drochtersen/Assel - FC Schalke 04 0 - 5
Viktoria Berlin - Arminia Bielefeld 0 -1
FC Ingolstadt - 1. FC Nürnberg 0 - 1
SC Verl - FC Augsburg 2 - 1
VfB Lübeck - FC St. Pauli
VfB Eichstätt - Hertha BSC
FSV Wacker 90 Nordhausen - FC Erzgebirge Aue 1 - 4
VfL Osnabrück - RB Leipzig
1. FC Magdeburg - SC Freiburg 0 - 1 aet
SSV Ulm 1846 Fußball - 1. FC Heidenheim 0-1

 

[Bembeltown]

Lautern - Mainz was pretty tasty, Mainz for once showed up to a "derby" with 6000 away fans. They put on some show with pyro and flags and then when Lautern scored the 2-0 started throwing flares on the pitch and putting their own Q-Block banner on fire.

Mainz is such a weird club with such a strange fanbase. The matches against Frankfurt and Kaiserslautern are considered "Derby" by them, but this is a pretty one sided relationship as neither Frankfurt nor Lautern consider matches against Mainz to be derby worthy as they are so insignificant and laughable in the grand scheme of things.

Hope they fuck off to the second tier where they belong.