MCFCHOWELL said:I wouldn't mind a short winter Premier League break. It has to be said there are too many games over the Christmas and New Year period. Just look at the Tottenham vs United gamer, or our second half performance against Burnley.
It'd give me a chance to go and watch more non league games too, go and watch some real football.
I think it all boils down to the pointless international breaks we all have. If we didn't have the two around autumn time we could easily fit in 4 extra games in that space (the weekend and one set of midweek games). Then we'd have space for a small break around the Christmas period, because some of the games between Christmas Day and New Years Eve were dier.Maldeika said:MCFCHOWELL said:I wouldn't mind a short winter Premier League break. It has to be said there are too many games over the Christmas and New Year period. Just look at the Tottenham vs United gamer, or our second half performance against Burnley.
It'd give me a chance to go and watch more non league games too, go and watch some real football.
You have too many matches to have a winter break. 2 cups where some games are with two legs - and 4 more matches against no. 19 and no. 20 of the league. Actually you would not even loose any quality if you would skip that matches.
Our cup in Germany just has one leg and for me that is great like this. The income of it gets distributed between the two clubs. The club from the lower league (3rd league downwards) has the home right - else it is luck if you play at home or away. As the lower leagues usually start earlier into the season (they have longer winter breaks because of the pitch conditions in winter) and as the first cup match usually is the week before the Bundesliga season starts not all Bundesliga teams get into round 2... ;)
The winter break has its advantages. We fans have no Xmas football tradition so we do not mind - and the stadiums are fuller when it is warm than when there is freezing temperatures. And the players can be at home with their family and then make holidays - and the South Americans can fly home in their countries. It is good for the spirit.
It is especially good in years like this when a lot players had a World Cup and came late for preparation. There is not many players of the teams of the last week that really were in top form this autumn - a lot were injured or out of form. And I think that this was not only a problem of the German players even if Bayern was apart from Schweinsteiger lucky this time. With the winter break and the three week preparation everybody can build up new form.
honestly we don't even need that. Just remove the game ob the 28th. Play on the 26th and then the 1st/2nd. Most of the managers are complaining about the two games in 48 hoursMCFCHOWELL said:I think it all boils down to the pointless international breaks we all have. If we didn't have the two around autumn time we could easily fit in 4 extra games in that space (the weekend and one set of midweek games). Then we'd have space for a small break around the Christmas period, because some of the games between Christmas Day and New Years Eve were dier.Maldeika said:MCFCHOWELL said:I wouldn't mind a short winter Premier League break. It has to be said there are too many games over the Christmas and New Year period. Just look at the Tottenham vs United gamer, or our second half performance against Burnley.
It'd give me a chance to go and watch more non league games too, go and watch some real football.
You have too many matches to have a winter break. 2 cups where some games are with two legs - and 4 more matches against no. 19 and no. 20 of the league. Actually you would not even loose any quality if you would skip that matches.
Our cup in Germany just has one leg and for me that is great like this. The income of it gets distributed between the two clubs. The club from the lower league (3rd league downwards) has the home right - else it is luck if you play at home or away. As the lower leagues usually start earlier into the season (they have longer winter breaks because of the pitch conditions in winter) and as the first cup match usually is the week before the Bundesliga season starts not all Bundesliga teams get into round 2... ;)
The winter break has its advantages. We fans have no Xmas football tradition so we do not mind - and the stadiums are fuller when it is warm than when there is freezing temperatures. And the players can be at home with their family and then make holidays - and the South Americans can fly home in their countries. It is good for the spirit.
It is especially good in years like this when a lot players had a World Cup and came late for preparation. There is not many players of the teams of the last week that really were in top form this autumn - a lot were injured or out of form. And I think that this was not only a problem of the German players even if Bayern was apart from Schweinsteiger lucky this time. With the winter break and the three week preparation everybody can build up new form.
bluechampion7891 said:honestly we don't even need that. Just remove the game ob the 28th. Play on the 26th and then the 1st/2nd. Most of the managers are complaining about the two games in 48 hoursMCFCHOWELL said:I think it all boils down to the pointless international breaks we all have. If we didn't have the two around autumn time we could easily fit in 4 extra games in that space (the weekend and one set of midweek games). Then we'd have space for a small break around the Christmas period, because some of the games between Christmas Day and New Years Eve were dier.Maldeika said:You have too many matches to have a winter break. 2 cups where some games are with two legs - and 4 more matches against no. 19 and no. 20 of the league. Actually you would not even loose any quality if you would skip that matches.
Our cup in Germany just has one leg and for me that is great like this. The income of it gets distributed between the two clubs. The club from the lower league (3rd league downwards) has the home right - else it is luck if you play at home or away. As the lower leagues usually start earlier into the season (they have longer winter breaks because of the pitch conditions in winter) and as the first cup match usually is the week before the Bundesliga season starts not all Bundesliga teams get into round 2... ;)
The winter break has its advantages. We fans have no Xmas football tradition so we do not mind - and the stadiums are fuller when it is warm than when there is freezing temperatures. And the players can be at home with their family and then make holidays - and the South Americans can fly home in their countries. It is good for the spirit.
It is especially good in years like this when a lot players had a World Cup and came late for preparation. There is not many players of the teams of the last week that really were in top form this autumn - a lot were injured or out of form. And I think that this was not only a problem of the German players even if Bayern was apart from Schweinsteiger lucky this time. With the winter break and the three week preparation everybody can build up new form.
the extra game can be accommodated by having a single leg semifinal for the league cup, and extra time instead of replays for fa cup games (both of which i honestly find bizzare - either have all two legged games or none)
supercrystal7 said:Then Schalke are signing Nastacic another young centre back when they have lots of those and no experience.
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cptaidan88 said:Terrible news. Malanda of Wolfsburg has died in a car accident aged just 20. RIP
This is why you have a very bloated squad with far too many players that don't fit any system. How can you have more attacking midfielders than Chelsea/City? Do you really think that Di Matteo is going to be at Schalke long term? What happens when he leaves the club in the next year or so and the next manager fancies Ayhan? What about if Howedes does not move and Matip is back fit? Why has nothing been done about the lack of experience and winning mentality at the club? Schalke are so similar to Tottenham, but in addition they have one of the best youth teams in the world. You should have brought in Mancini or Tuchel to clean the club up.Ruhr said:supercrystal7 said:Then Schalke are signing Nastacic another young centre back when they have lots of those and no experience.
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Felipe Santana and Jan Kirchhoff should leave the club. Benny Höwedes had made first remarks about a move to England in the near future. Kyriakos Papadopolous wants to stay in Leverkusen, not sure, if he will ever be fit again anyway. And di Matteo seems to have no trust in Kaan Ayhan and Marvin Friederich. Then there is only the best CB Joel Matip left. And he hadn´t played a single minute under di Matteo because of his injury.
SPIDERBOY said:Apparently dortmund have applied for the licence to play in 2 bundesliga next season.
sam-caddick said:SPIDERBOY said:Apparently dortmund have applied for the licence to play in 2 bundesliga next season.
Why do you need a license to play in Bundesliga 2?
Are they going to lose some key players this month if they are preparing to get relegated?
MCFCHOWELL said:I'd presume if you had to apply to play in the 2nd division, that all clubs who are low down (Bremen, Freiburg etc) will also be applying for one.
You're forgetting the only FC Ingolstadt "fan" from Manchester. ;)Ruhr said:Winter break in german football, so it is time for the current standings
Bundesliga
Okay, Bayern is for another time german champion, but the race for europe is still open and at the bottom at least one of the big teams may drop into Bundesliga 2
1. Bayern München 45 41-4 (CL)
2. VfL Wolfsburg 34 33-17 (CL)
3. Bayer Leverkusen 28 28-20 (CL)
4. Borussia Mönchengladbach 27 25-16 (CLQ)
5. Schalke 04 27 28-21 (EL)
6. FC Augsburg 27 22-21 (EL)
7. TSG Hoffenheim 26 29-25
8. Hannover 96 24 21-26
9. Eintracht Frankfurt 23 34-34
10. SC Paderborn 19 21-26
11. 1. FC Köln 19 17-23
12. Mainz 05 18 19-23
13. Hertha BSC 18 24-35
14. Hamburger SV 17 9-19
15. VfB Stuttgart 17 20-32
16. Werder Bremen 17 26-39 (PO)
17. Borussia Dortmund 15 18-26 (REL)
18. SC Freiburg 15 17-25 (REL)
Average Attendances
1. Borussia Dortmund 80,438
2. Bayern München 71,000
3. Schalke 04 61,470
4. Hertha BSC 52,603
5. Hamburger SV 51,548
6. Borussia Mönchengladbach 50,434
7. 1. FC Köln 48,736
8. VfB Stuttgart 47,288
9. Eintracht Frankfurt 47,222
10. Hannover 96 42,700
11. Werder Bremen 40,786
12. Mainz 05 30,065
13. FC Augsburg 29,495
14. Bayer Leverkusen 29,097
15. VfL Wolfsburg 27,700
16. TSG Hoffenheim 26,013
17. SC Freiburg 23,769
18. SC Paderborn 14,909
Goal Scorer
1. Alexander Meier (Eintracht Frankfurt)13
2. Arjen Robben (Bayern München) 10
3. Eric-Maxim Choupo-Moting (Schalke 04) 9
4. Karim Bellarabi (Bayer Leverkusen) 8
5. Shinji Okazaki (Mainz 05) 8
Best Players (based on 5 newspapers, tv stations from 1= best to 6=worst)
1. Arjen Robben (Bayern München) 1.93
2. Franck Ribery (Bayern München) 2. 63
3. Xabi Alonso (Bayern München) 2.66
4. Karim Bellarabi (Bayer Leverkusen) 2.69
5. Ralf Fährmann (Schalke 04) 2.70
6. Kevin de Bruyne (VfL Wolfsburg) 2.72
7. Jerome Boateng (Bayern München) 2.75
8. Philipp Lahm (Bayern München) 2.78
9. Gonzalo Castro (Bayer Leverkusen) 2.82
10. Martin Stranzl (Borussia Mönchengladbach) 2.82
11. Felix Wiedwald (Eintracht Frankfurt) 2.82
Bundesliga 2
No one outside Ingolstadt would really enjoy them in the Bundesliga, but behind them there is a number of clubs with a big tradition. For 1860 München and St. Pauli there is trouble ahead.
1. FC Ingolstadt 04 40 (PR)
2. Karlsruher SC 33 (PR)
3. SV Darmstadt 98 33 (PO)
4. Eintracht Braunschweig 33
5. 1. FC Kaiserslautern 32
6. Fortuna Düsseldorf 31
7. RB Leipzig 29
8. 1. FC Nürnberg 27
9. 1. FC Heidenheim 25
10. Union Berlin 24
11. VfL Bochum 23
12. Greuther Fürth 23
13. FSV Frankfurt 21
14. SV Sandhausen 20
15. 1860 München 17
16. VfR Aalen 17 (PO)
17. FC St. Pauli 16 (REL)
18. Erzgebirge Aue 14 (REL)
Average Attendances
1. 1. FC Nürnberg 32,434
2. 1. FC Kaiserslautern 32, 036
3. Fortuna Düsseldorf 31, 617
4. RB Leipzig 26,348
5. FC St. Pauli 25, 701
6. Eintracht Braunschweig 21, 612
7. 1860 München 19, 444
8. Union Berlin 18, 688
9. VfL Bochum 18, 127
10. Karlsruher SC 14, 270
11. SV Darmstadt 98 13, 350
12. 1. FC Heidenheim 12, 030
13. Greuther Fürth 11,665
14. Erzgebirge Aue 8, 433
15. Ingolstadt 04 8, 244
16. VfR Aalen 7, 373
17. FSV Frankfurt 5, 819
18. SV Sandhausen 5, 394
League 3
Bielefeld and Münster, the old westfalian rivals, on their way into Bundesliga 2
1. Arminia Bielefeld 43 (PR)
2. Preußen Münster 39 (PR)
3. Stuttgarter Kickers 38 (PO)
4. Dynamo Dresden 38
5. Energie Cottbus 37
6. MSV Duisburg 36
7. VfL Osnabrück 35
8. RW Erfurt 34
9. Wehen Wiesbaden 33
10. Holstein Kiel 33
11. Fortuna Köln 30
12. Hallescher FC 29
13. Chemnitzer FC 28
14. Spvgg Unterhaching 26
15. VfB Stuttgart U23 26
16. Borussia Dortmund U 23 21
17. Mainz 05 U 23 21
18. Sonnenhof Großaspach 21 (REL)
19. Hansa Rostock 17 (REL)
20. Jahn Regensburg 12 (REL)
Average Attendances
1. Dynamo Dresden 24, 013
2. Arminia Bielefeld 11, 720
3. MSV Duisburg 11, 620
4. Preußen Münster 9, 423
5. Hansa Rostock 9, 242
6. VfL Osnabrück 8, 439
7. Energie Cottbus 8, 189
8. Hallescher FC 7, 155
9. RW Erfurt 6, 040
10. Chemnitzer FC 5, 732
11. Holstein Kiel 5, 352
12. Jahn Regensburg 3, 576
13. Wehen Wiesbaden 3, 370
14. Borussia Dortmund U 23 3, 120
15. Stuttgarter Kickers 2, 961
16. Sonnenhof Großaspach 2, 930
17. Spvgg Unterhaching 2, 492
18. Fortuna Köln 2, 084
19. Mainz 05 U 23 1, 273
20. VfB Stuttgart U23 1, 176
League 4 is played in five divisions.
League 4 Division North
The misery of League 4, it is full of reserve teams
1. Hamburger SV U 23 45 (PO)
2. Werder Bremen U 23 40
3. VfL Wolfsburg U 23 37
4. SV Meppen 33
5. ETSV Weiche 32
League 4 Division Northeast
1. FC Magdeburg, european cup winner in 1974, Carl Zeiss Jena, european cup finalist in 1981, down they went.
1. Wacker Nordhausen 30 (PO)
2. FSV Zwickau 29
3. 1. FC Magdeburg 28
4. Berliner AK 24
5. Carl Zeiss Jena 23
League 4 Division West
Essen, Aachen, Oberhausen, all former Bundesliga clubs, now in the graveyard of tradition aka League 4, same for Offenbach and Saarbrücken in the southwest division
1. RW Essen 38 (PO)
2. Alemannia Aachen 38
3. Borussia Mönchengladbach U 23 36
4. Viktoria Köln 32
5. RW Oberhausen 31
League 4 Division Southwest
1. Kickers Offenbach 49 (PO)
2. 1. FC Saarbrücken 43 (PO)
3. SV Elversberg 41
4. 1. FC Kaiserslautern U 23 33
5. Wormatia Worms 33
League 4 Division Bavaria
At least 1860 is ahead of Bayern here
1. Würzburger Kickers 51 (PO)
2. 1860 München U 23 48
3. Bayern München U 23 44
4. FV Illertissen 36
5. FC Ingolstadt U 23 35
I'll hopefully be one of their 10 fans at an away game soon! ;)Ruhr said:The moment, i´ve read your quote, in knew, i was wrong. :-) How could i forget...