Bundesliga review part 2. the new one :)

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daveyboybluemoon said:
MCFCHOWELL said:
Bembeltown said:
Would be interesting to see what people consider their favourite ground in the Bundesliga? I am personally a big fan of Kaiserslautern´s ground as it is very English and compact in a way.
Its in the middle of the town, you have to climb up a hill (the dreaded Betzenberg) and the "friendly" inhabitants of this wonderful place pelt you with potatoes. :)

I really like Cologne as well, again because it is a compact ground with a great atmosphere. If it wasn't for the dreaded music they play....
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That's obviously going to be the Audi Sportpark next season! ;)

It's a generic ground, but anything is better than the ESV Stadion!
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Hi,

New to this thread! I am off to Dusseldorf on my Stag do on Friday Morning & we have managed to get tickets for 10 of us to go & watch FC.Kolne against Bayer Leverkusan on Saturday afternoon. Have done Schalke & Hambug with City & went to a St Pauli game game when i was back in Hamburg a few years ago, though finished 0-0 so hoping for some goals.

Tickets were decent price, 34 Euros each, on my statement worked out just over £26 each, back behind the goal i think.

Really looking forward to it, anyone got any tips on best place to have a drink etc... Anything we should be aware of (I'm interested in this music they play?!) etc...

Cheers
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Ok mate

We did Cologne v Frankfurt last month and Rhineland took us into a brilliant, old fashioned beer hall, virtually opposite the hauptbahnhof. Not sure if you prefer the Irish bars, but I love the authentic formality of the beer halls.
The ground is about thirty minutes on the tram and there's a great pub on the right hand side, adjacent to the nearest stop
The stadium is in the middle of a park, and there's beer tents en route.
I actually thought the atmosphere at our game was the best I've ever encountered in the Bundesliga, although it helped that Rhineland had sorted us with tickets next to the away fans. I'm hoping to do another game before the end of the season.

Once in Dusseldorf, head straight for the Altstadt. Again there's some great beer halls and a brilliant "Top Shelf" bar where the 42% Killerpitsch will kick-start your day.
 
Bembeltown said:
I visited Nürnberg in December 2013. It was the coldest I've ever been at a football game, but it was a good atmosphere. Its an unusual ground being Octagonal, and I felt quite far away from the pitch, but it felt like it had a soul to it if you know what I mean. I thought it was quite a nice city too, and there is plenty to do, particularly if you're a history buff (I'm not but found it interesting anyway).

They have my favourite club motto in the world - 'Ich bereue diese Liebe nicht'. Which I think translates to 'I do not regret this love'. I love the sense of defiance - its as if they know its a bad idea, but in the end its worth it some how.
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Oh lord....do I read some sympathy towards Nürnberg between your lines!? Hold on! Let me send you another batch of Frankfurt scarves over!! Its not to late to save your soul! ;)

"Ich bereue diese Liebe nicht" (translation is fine btw) is really a great motto and it expresses everything there is to express about supporting a club without success.

I remember when Nürnberg went down last year (or was it already two years ago?) they were playing Schalke on the last match day and their relegation was pretty much sealed. They had a huge banner with them which read "Sometimes you can´t help but hate, what you want to love so much". Pretty much summarized everything as well....

You are right about Nürnbergs ground having a soul! Its just nice to see a ground which has not the standard arena layout these days, even though it is a bit shitty that you are pretty far away from the action due to the running track.

2006 brought us a lot of nice new grounds, but I am not a big fan of those new arenas. You can hardly notice a difference between e.g. Hamburg and Frankfurt.

Back in the day every ground was somehow unique in a special way and I am missing this character to certain grounds (including our own).

Would be interesting to see what people consider their favourite ground in the Bundesliga? I am personally a big fan of Kaiserslautern´s ground as it is very English and compact in a way.
Its in the middle of the town, you have to climb up a hill (the dreaded Betzenberg) and the "friendly" inhabitants of this wonderful place pelt you with potatoes. :)

I really like Cologne as well, again because it is a compact ground with a great atmosphere. If it wasn't for the dreaded music they play....
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We have the same problem in the Premier League, with eight new stadiums providing improved facilities, yet somehow lacking the unique charm of the Dell, Vetch Field, or Roker Park. I still miss Maine Road, but usually change my mind whenever I sample the facilities for away fans at Goodison Park.

As for Germany, I would say that Cologne is more English than a lot of English grounds.
Werder Bremen is reminiscent of Craven Cottage, or the City Ground, with the River Weser meandering behind the main stand (and a huge outdoor swimming pool inside the stadium)
I prefer Union Berlins ground to Hertha’s Olympic stadium stadium, but just like St Pauli, their fans overdo the working class propaganda
Hertha coming out to Rod Stewart is almost as amusing as St Pauli’s Big Ben chimes. but neither match the curious sight of Hanover fans dancing to the punk version of Nellie the Elephant, which greeted me in 2006.
As previously discussed, we all love Nurnberg’s octagonal stadium, but Leverkusen is difficult to beat for value for money.
The sports bar outside Stuttgart’s ground only employs supermodels in white tee shirts and red skirts, but i digress.
Monchengladbach;s ground is so far out of the city centre, you feel as though you’re in Holland. Bochum goes under the radar (especially the Bermuda Triangle drinking area), and all I can say is that I sincerely hope Hamburg stay up.

But like everything else, football is more about people than structure. I’ve met some good friends at Fortuna, Cologne, and Schalke, and long may it continue
 
Scaring Europe to Death said:
Bochum goes under the radar (especially the Bermuda Triangle drinking area),
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telling that many people, but the Ruhr Valley is sometimes hard to understand for foreign visitors.
 
Cheers to Bembeltown & Scaring Europe to Death for the information, didn't have chance to get back on here yesterday.

Really looking forward to it (Well apart from the stag do part of it), i'll report back early next week on how it was.

Cheers
 
Scaring Europe to Death said:
daveyboybluemoon said:
MCFCHOWELL said:
That's obviously going to be the Audi Sportpark next season! ;)

It's a generic ground, but anything is better than the ESV Stadion!
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Hi,

New to this thread! I am off to Dusseldorf on my Stag do on Friday Morning & we have managed to get tickets for 10 of us to go & watch FC.Kolne against Bayer Leverkusan on Saturday afternoon. Have done Schalke & Hambug with City & went to a St Pauli game game when i was back in Hamburg a few years ago, though finished 0-0 so hoping for some goals.

Tickets were decent price, 34 Euros each, on my statement worked out just over £26 each, back behind the goal i think.

Really looking forward to it, anyone got any tips on best place to have a drink etc... Anything we should be aware of (I'm interested in this music they play?!) etc...

Cheers
Click to expand...

Ok mate

We did Cologne v Frankfurt last month and Rhineland took us into a brilliant, old fashioned beer hall, virtually opposite the hauptbahnhof. Not sure if you prefer the Irish bars, but I love the authentic formality of the beer halls.
The ground is about thirty minutes on the tram and there's a great pub on the right hand side, adjacent to the nearest stop
The stadium is in the middle of a park, and there's beer tents en route.
I actually thought the atmosphere at our game was the best I've ever encountered in the Bundesliga, although it helped that Rhineland had sorted us with tickets next to the away fans. I'm hoping to do another game before the end of the season.

Once in Dusseldorf, head straight for the Altstadt. Again there's some great beer halls and a brilliant "Top Shelf" bar where the 42% Killerpitsch will kick-start your day.
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Don't suppose you can remember what the old fashioned beer hall is called do you? want to avoid irish bars where possible, you know when in, er...Cologne & all that!
 
Hopefully Rhineland will see this, and give you better directions, but from what I remember, you come out of the hauptbahnhof,, with the cathedral to your immediate left, and what looks like a shopping mall straight ahead.

Walk straight through the shopping mall entrance, and the beer hall is inside.
 
Bayern München win their 25th german championship after Wolfsburg´s defeat at Mönchengladbach.
Wolfsburg, Mönchengladbach and Leverkusen are heading to the CL.
Schalke missing out CL thanks to Roberto Clueless di Matteo
The puppet players from Augsburg are totally exhausted, but still with the chance for Europe like Hoffenheim, Borussia Dortmund and Werder Bremen.
Down in the cellar the two Bundesliga giants VfB Stuttgart and Hamburger SV have to fight till the very end. Newcomers Paderborn are still alive, while the 96ers and Freiburg complete the relegation battle.

1 Bayern München 76 77:13 champion

2 VfL Wolfsburg 61 63:32 CL
3 Borussia Mönchengladbach 57 45:22 CL

4 Bayer Leverkusen 55 57:32 CLQ

5 FC Schalke 04 42 38:34 EL
6 FC Augsburg 42 38:40 EL
7 TSG Hoffenheim 40 45:48 EL (if Bayern or Wolfsburg win the cup)

8 Borussia Dortmund 39 40:37
9 Werder Bremen 39 46:59
10 FSV Mainz 05 37 42:41
11 Eintracht Frankfurt 36 51:59
12 1.FC Köln 35 30:36
13 Hertha BSC 34 34:46
14 SC Freiburg 30 31:41
15 Hannover 96 29 33:51

16 Hamburger SV 28 19:46 RPO

17 SC Paderborn 28 27:58 REL
18 VfB Stuttgart 27 34:55 REL

Bundesliga 2
FC Ingolstadt, the club wit the large fan base in England, is on the way to the Bundesliga, the red devils from Kaiserslautern. Karlsruhe and Darmstadt may battle it out for the Play-offs with the cans from Leipzig have still a small chance. At the bottom it looks very dark for the red light district kickers from St.Pauli. Even the Lions from Munich are not saved.

1. FC Ingolstadt 04 59 PR
2. 1. FC Kaiserslautern 54 PR

3. Karlsruher SC 52 PPO

4. SV Darmstadt 98 50
5. RB Leipzig 47
6. Eintracht Braunschweig 44
7. Fortuna Düsseldorf 41
8. 1. FC Heidenheim 1846 38
9. 1. FC Nürnberg 38
10. 1. FC Union Berlin 38
11. SV Sandhausen 37
12. FSV Frankfurt 36
13. VfL Bochum 35
14. SpVgg Greuther Fürth 31
15. TSV 1860 München 30

16. VfR Aalen 28 RPO

17. Erzgebirge Aue 28
18. FC St. Pauli 28

League 3

The east-westfalian idiots (as a popular fan chant call them) from Bielefeld are on the way back to Bundesliga 2. They are also in the cup semis. The storks from Kiel would quite be a surprise, a return to BL2 for the first time since 1981. The Zebras also belong to Bundesliga 2 at least as they are rank 15 in the all-time-table of the Bundesliga. Would also love to see the "Stukis" go up and meet their local rivals VfB Stuttgart, if they are relegated from the Bundesliga. It would be their first encounter since 1992.

1. Arminia Bielefeld 68 PR
2. Holstein Kiel 63 PR

3. MSV Duisburg 62 PRPO

4. Stuttgarter Kickers 58
5. Preußen Münster 54
6. Energie Cottbus 52
7. Hallescher FC 50
8. SV Wehen Wiesbaden 49
9. Chemnitzer FC 49
10. Rot-Weiß Erfurt 46
11. Dynamo Dresden 44
12. VfL Osnabrück 44
13. SG Sonnenhof Großaspach 43
14. Fortuna Köln 42
15. Hansa Rostock 41
16. VfB Stuttgart II 40
17. SpVgg Unterhaching 35

18. 1. FSV Mainz 05 II 34 REL
19. Borussia Dortmund II 30 REL
20. Jahn Regensburg 27 REL
 
Ruhr said:
Bayern München win their 25th german championship after Wolfsburg´s defeat at Mönchengladbach.
Wolfsburg, Mönchengladbach and Leverkusen are heading to the CL.
Schalke missing out CL thanks to Roberto Clueless di Matteo
The puppet players from Augsburg are totally exhausted, but still with the chance for Europe like Hoffenheim, Borussia Dortmund and Werder Bremen.
Down in the cellar the two Bundesliga giants VfB Stuttgart and Hamburger SV have to fight till the very end. Newcomers Paderborn are still alive, while the 96ers and Freiburg complete the relegation battle.

1 Bayern München 76 77:13 champion

2 VfL Wolfsburg 61 63:32 CL
3 Borussia Mönchengladbach 57 45:22 CL

4 Bayer Leverkusen 55 57:32 CLQ

5 FC Schalke 04 42 38:34 EL
6 FC Augsburg 42 38:40 EL
7 TSG Hoffenheim 40 45:48 EL (if Bayern or Wolfsburg win the cup)

8 Borussia Dortmund 39 40:37
9 Werder Bremen 39 46:59
10 FSV Mainz 05 37 42:41
11 Eintracht Frankfurt 36 51:59
12 1.FC Köln 35 30:36
13 Hertha BSC 34 34:46
14 SC Freiburg 30 31:41
15 Hannover 96 29 33:51

16 Hamburger SV 28 19:46 RPO

17 SC Paderborn 28 27:58 REL
18 VfB Stuttgart 27 34:55 REL

Bundesliga 2
FC Ingolstadt, the club wit the large fan base in England, is on the way to the Bundesliga, the red devils from Kaiserslautern. Karlsruhe and Darmstadt may battle it out for the Play-offs with the cans from Leipzig have still a small chance. At the bottom it looks very dark for the red light district kickers from St.Pauli. Even the Lions from Munich are not saved.

1. FC Ingolstadt 04 59 PR
2. 1. FC Kaiserslautern 54 PR

3. Karlsruher SC 52 PPO

4. SV Darmstadt 98 50
5. RB Leipzig 47
6. Eintracht Braunschweig 44
7. Fortuna Düsseldorf 41
8. 1. FC Heidenheim 1846 38
9. 1. FC Nürnberg 38
10. 1. FC Union Berlin 38
11. SV Sandhausen 37
12. FSV Frankfurt 36
13. VfL Bochum 35
14. SpVgg Greuther Fürth 31
15. TSV 1860 München 30

16. VfR Aalen 28 RPO

17. Erzgebirge Aue 28
18. FC St. Pauli 28

League 3

The east-westfalian idiots (as a popular fan chant call them) from Bielefeld are on the way back to Bundesliga 2. They are also in the cup semis. The storks from Kiel would quite be a surprise, a return to BL2 for the first time since 1981. The Zebras also belong to Bundesliga 2 at least as they are rank 15 in the all-time-table of the Bundesliga. Would also love to see the "Stukis" go up and meet their local rivals VfB Stuttgart, if they are relegated from the Bundesliga. It would be their first encounter since 1992.

1. Arminia Bielefeld 68 PR
2. Holstein Kiel 63 PR

3. MSV Duisburg 62 PRPO

4. Stuttgarter Kickers 58
5. Preußen Münster 54
6. Energie Cottbus 52
7. Hallescher FC 50
8. SV Wehen Wiesbaden 49
9. Chemnitzer FC 49
10. Rot-Weiß Erfurt 46
11. Dynamo Dresden 44
12. VfL Osnabrück 44
13. SG Sonnenhof Großaspach 43
14. Fortuna Köln 42
15. Hansa Rostock 41
16. VfB Stuttgart II 40
17. SpVgg Unterhaching 35

18. 1. FSV Mainz 05 II 34 REL
19. Borussia Dortmund II 30 REL
20. Jahn Regensburg 27 REL
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;)

Looking at the 3. Liga there are definitely a few surprises in there. Like what a fall from grace for one of Schanzer's local rivals, Jahn's Regensburg! About to drop into the Oberliga? Also surprised to see how badly Dresden and Hansa are doing, it wasn't long ago that we beat Hansa to return to the second flight!
 
"Der Jahn" (The Jahn") will go to Regionalliga Bayern, 4th division, where Bayern München´s reserve team plays.
Hansa is fighting for financial survival, not sure, if their license is already save.
 
Ruhr said:
"Der Jahn" (The Jahn") will go to Regionalliga Bayern, 4th division, where Bayern München´s reserve team plays.
Hansa is fighting for financial survival, not sure, if their license is already save.
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Am I right in saying that if Schanzer win on Monday and Karlsruhe and Darmstadt fail to win, that we are promoted?
 
1-1 and dortmund are all over bayern atm...they have a good chance to reach the final ...i really really hope that we will go for klopp and not fucking benitez or mazarri ....
 
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