Maybe not the right thread, but since some are still wondering about DM: Fern is 34 and a half, contract till next summer (maybe another year as CB), the workrate at DM is too high at his age. He could help for a match or 2, that's about it. That was clear since Rodri has arrived. Well, to me it was. Rodri is so young, has to learn a lot and also has to adapt to the mucher higher PL pace and intensity. Takes some time, but I think he will come good. Gundogan - like it or not - is exactly what Pep wants most of all to play his possession game: perfection in ball control, very high passing accuracy and intelligence to read a match. Calm, experienced. Nobody at City is better right now in those departments (David maybe, but not at DM). Gundogan had his injuries and HAS to be a bit more controlled in 1on1s. He had to adapt his physical game, that can be a problem sometimes (and many hate that!) - yes - but the advantages are still prevailing by far. The accusation Gundogan is too slow or is slowing our game down is just nonsense, sorry. When he isn't running across the pitch like mad he is just holding his position (ask Pep), ready to deliver, always head up and reading the game. He loves to speed up pace and play sharp passes into pockets or over the top, but the runners have to make an offer first! Since many matches our wing play got dramatically lazy, Raz maybe because he is overplayed w/o Sane, and don't let me talk about Mahrez or Bernardo... We also have said in several threads, defence is only working as a team. If 1 DM has to cover the complete mid, we will always fail, no matter who is playing DM. Wingers and AMs have to support DM. That's how all those deep sitting teams make us suffer and kill the games, it's not too difficult.