bus lane fine - Help

dickie davies

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I've received a bus lane fine for driving on Oxford Road and am not sure if it's "time barred"
Can anyone help me understand the law quoted at the bottom
I'm thinking that they've issued a new PCN for my benefit of the reduced payment

The offence took place first week of November and the PCN I've received has the date of the offence, date the current PCN I've been issued with, which is 23rd of May, and also the date the PREVIOUS/ORIGINAL PCN was cancelled!
I drive a leased car, so the original PCN would have gone to the leasing company who will have supplied the company I work for details, which gives the council extra time to issue a PCN
Looking at various things on the internet, the council has six months to issue a PCN in the case of it being more difficult to trace the driver
I've looked at the official Government legislation page and don't understand if they have six months from the end of the first 28 day period following the offence or six months from the offence

The Bus Lane Contraventions (Penalty Charges, Adjudication and Enforcement) (England) Regulations 2005​


8.—(1) Where an approved local authority have reason to believe that a penalty charge is payable under Part 2 with respect to a vehicle, they may, in accordance with paragraphs (2) and (5) below, serve a notice (“penalty charge notice”) on the person appearing to them to be the owner of the vehicle or on the person appearing to them to be the person liable to pay the charge.

(2) Subject to paragraph (3), a penalty charge notice shall be served before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the detection date.

(3) Where—

(a)within 14 days of the detection date an approved local authority have made a request to the Secretary of State for the supply of relevant particulars; and

(b)those particulars have not been supplied before the date after which the authority would not be entitled to serve a penalty charge notice by virtue of paragraph (2),

the authority shall continue to be entitled to serve a penalty charge notice for a further period of six months beginning with the date mentioned in sub-paragraph (b).
 
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The Secretary of State is the DVLA for the purposes above, they will probably claim it was served to the leasing company within the time period and any delay was the fault of that company and the clock stops when it was initially served.

The 6 months isn't additional it goes back to the detection date/camera catching you, but only applies if it is a DVLA cock up, which it wasn't. I would check timescales with the leasing company, MSE etc, ac it seems a grey area.
 
I've received a bus lane fine for driving on Oxford Road and am not sure if it's "time barred"
Can anyone help me understand the law quoted at the bottom
I'm thinking that they've issued a new PCN for my benefit of the reduced payment

The offence took place first week of November and the PCN I've received has the date of the offence, date the current PCN I've been issued with, which is 23rd of May, and also the date the PREVIOUS/ORIGINAL PCN was cancelled!
I drive a leased car, so the original PCN would have gone to the leasing company who will have supplied the company I work for details, which gives the council extra time to issue a PCN
Looking at various things on the internet, the council has six months to issue a PCN in the case of it being more difficult to trace the driver
I've looked at the official Government legislation page and don't understand if they have six months from the end of the first 28 day period following the offence or six months from the offence

The Bus Lane Contraventions (Penalty Charges, Adjudication and Enforcement) (England) Regulations 2005​


8.—(1) Where an approved local authority have reason to believe that a penalty charge is payable under Part 2 with respect to a vehicle, they may, in accordance with paragraphs (2) and (5) below, serve a notice (“penalty charge notice”) on the person appearing to them to be the owner of the vehicle or on the person appearing to them to be the person liable to pay the charge.

(2) Subject to paragraph (3), a penalty charge notice shall be served before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the detection date.

(3) Where—

(a)within 14 days of the detection date an approved local authority have made a request to the Secretary of State for the supply of relevant particulars; and

(b)those particulars have not been supplied before the date after which the authority would not be entitled to serve a penalty charge notice by virtue of paragraph (2),

the authority shall continue to be entitled to serve a penalty charge notice for a further period of six months beginning with the date mentioned in sub-paragraph (b).
Pay the 30 quid it's not worth the hassel.
 
The Secretary of State is the DVLA for the purposes above, they will probably claim it was served to the leasing company within the time period and any delay was the fault of that company and the clock stops when it was initially served.

The 6 months isn't additional it goes back to the detection date/camera catching you, but only applies if it is a DVLA cock up, which it wasn't. I would check timescales with the leasing company, MSE etc, ac it seems a grey area.
I don't think the leasing company has anything to do with it
A couple of years ago I had a speeding penalty which took three months to come through to me as the ticket went to the leasing company. So I know it won't be them halting the process and MCC will have had months to re send the PCN
 
Ah right. There’s one from The Palace to St Peter’s Square. You can’t turn left or right into it at certain times but there is only one sign placed further back from the junction and nothing at the lights. If a bus was stopped adjacent to it you would never know because you would not see the sign. Seems set up to catch people.

Not familiar with that one though mate.
 
Check out the signage where you got this. i got one whilst my son was in RMCH and it was signposted really shitty where you are boxed in with one way systems and bus lane was the only way i could see out, I paid weeks later it was on the news that the signage was pitiful and they quashed loads of un paid fines...i had too much on my plate at the time to appeal
 

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