Cambridge Analytica

Great bit of journalism. CA will cease to be, but nothing stopping them starting up again with a new name. Sure a few guys will go to prison, but there will be countless others waiting to take up the role.

It's almost impossible to stop this kind of thing without FB/Twitter etc being fully cooperational and competent.

It does make you wonder about recent big voting decisions though...
 
Just to add to this, Bannon was on the (still cryptic) board of Cambridge Analytica. All of his companies—Breitbart, his production company Glittering Steel (which promoted the Uranium One conspiracy theory in their movie Clinton Cash)— shared a U.S. address with Cambridge.
Rupert Murdoch allowed C.A to operate out of one News International buildings.
Shadowy people and billionaires hijacking elections yet some seem to be ok with it.
Those who supported the winning side will be OK with it. The Brexit and Trump mob will be OK with it but I doubt Remainers and Clinton fans will be.
But were those leading the losing campaigns trying to apply dark political arts in other ways? Are the CA actions the worst of the bunch? There are many questions to be answered and people with power not wanting the right questions to be asked.
 
I can’t really make heads or tales of this. Politics is something that I have absolutely no interest in (obviously I should pay more attention) but what does this mean moving forward?
It means that numbskulls who take news and articles spread on faceache as fact have been had over as the daft fatlads that they are and have had a direct impact on the ridiculous state of world affairs that we have at present.
Quick Edit while Im ranting: factor in that massively sinister sneaky weirdo Assange on top of this too, you can thank that prick too
 
I first heard about these fuckers last summer while watching a fascinating BBC2 series called 'Secrets of Silicon Valley'. If I remember correctly, one whole episode was dedicated to the role of CA, Facebook and individually targeted social media messaging in Trump's victory.

They were essentially creating thousands of different versions of the same ads every single day, with language and messaging tailored directly to reflect the language and opinions of the people viewing the ads. So if a single mother posted a Facebook status decrying the state of childcare in her town, she'd see a "Vote Trump" ad later that day saying that improving this situation was one of his main objectives (even though it plainly wasn't).

All very sinister stuff when you consider that this wasn't about getting someone to buy a certain brand of jeans, but trying to directly influence the way they voted in a supposedly democratic election. The main issue being that there wasn't one coherent message being shown to all the people all of the time; everyone was seeing different messages that directly addressed their own individual concerns, whatever they may be and how irrelevant they actually were to Trump's campaign.

Politicians have long been lying, devious shits, but how do you even begin to hold someone to account when all they have done is tell each individual undecided voter exactly what they want to hear? And all this in secret so the wider voting public never gets to see how blatantly contradictory all these different messages are.

@BobKowalski is exactly right when he says its the use of emotional reasoning over factual reasoning. And it urgently needs addressing, because any politician would exploit such tools given the chance. Trump just happened to get there first.
 
I first heard about these fuckers last summer while watching a fascinating BBC2 series called 'Secrets of Silicon Valley'. If I remember correctly, one whole episode was dedicated to the role of CA, Facebook and individually targeted social media messaging in Trump's victory.

They were essentially creating thousands of different versions of the same ads every single day, with language and messaging tailored directly to reflect the language and opinions of the people viewing the ads. So if a single mother posted a Facebook status decrying the state of childcare in her town, she'd see a "Vote Trump" ad later that day saying that improving this situation was one of his main objectives (even though it plainly wasn't).

All very sinister stuff when you consider that this wasn't about getting someone to buy a certain brand of jeans, but trying to directly influence the way they voted in a supposedly democratic election. The main issue being that there wasn't one coherent message being shown to all the people all of the time; everyone was seeing different messages that directly addressed their own individual concerns, whatever they may be and how irrelevant they actually were to Trump's campaign.

Politicians have long been lying, devious shits, but how do you even begin to hold someone to account when all they have done is tell each individual undecided voter exactly what they want to hear? And all this in secret so the wider voting public never gets to see how blatantly contradictory all these different messages are.

@BobKowalski is exactly right when he says its the use of emotional reasoning over factual reasoning. And it urgently needs addressing, because any politician would exploit such tools given the chance. Trump just happened to get there first.

Or Trump was the first to use it so effectively. I'd be gobsmacked if his opposition didn't employ similar tactics - Trump's side just did it better.
 
Or Trump was the first to use it so effectively. I'd be gobsmacked if his opposition didn't employ similar tactics - Trump's side just did it better.
You're probably right. Either way, it needs addressing because we may as well all just give up if these tactics continue to be used to decide elections.
 
You're probably right. Either way, it needs addressing because we may as well all just give up if these tactics continue to be used to decide elections.

I'm not sure how you can legislate against it. Besides, it's not as if their targets had their free will revoked.

I think people just need to be far more educated that you shouldn't assume what you post or view online is private and the importance of critically analysing statements put to you as facts. If that single mum saw that Trump was going to focus on education in her area, she should have verified that independently.
 
I'm not sure how you can legislate against it. Besides, it's not as if their targets had their free will revoked.

I think people just need to be far more educated that you shouldn't assume what you post or view online is private and the importance of critically analysing statements put to you as facts. If that single mum saw that Trump was going to focus on education in her area, she should have verified that independently.
Legislating against this kind of campaigning should be fairly straightforward in the UK, but I can see how it would be much more difficult in the US where there are so many different special interest groups working on behalf of the two main parties.

However, I certainly agree that personal responsibility has a major role to play in combating this. In the grand scheme of things, we're still in the very formative years of social media and I do think our interaction with it will change as people become more aware and savvy.
 

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