Cameron vetoes EU Treaty change

[smudgedj]

Britain's stance will leave us on the outside looking in and create problems for the only real wealth creators in the country, export manufacturing.

Correct. We are playing a very dangerous game here.

He's played a blinder...if I was Cameron I'd call an election

 

[SWP's back]

Britain's stance will leave us on the outside looking in and create problems for the only real wealth creators in the country, export manufacturing.

Correct. We are playing a very dangerous game here.

Untrue. (and twinkle is as left as they come so it's no surprise he is upset)

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Britain's stance will leave us on the outside looking in and create problems for the only real wealth creators in the country, export manufacturing.

Correct. We are playing a very dangerous game here.

He's played a blinder...if I was Cameron I'd call an election

I think you'll find the coalition agreement precludes him from doing that.

 

[SWP's back]

Britain's stance will leave us on the outside looking in and create problems for the only real wealth creators in the country, export manufacturing.

Correct. We are playing a very dangerous game here.

He's played a blinder...if I was Cameron I'd call an election

The markets like it so manufacturers aren't overly concerned.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

Britain's stance will leave us on the outside looking in and create problems for the only real wealth creators in the country, export manufacturing.

It leaves the UK exactly where it was before. And when the EURO sinks the wealth will drift west.

 

[hilts]

Britain's stance will leave us on the outside looking in and create problems for the only real wealth creators in the country, export manufacturing.

This is an arguement i have heard many times and it doesnt ring true, the more powers you give away and the more entrenched you become in a larger organisation the less your own opinion counts for. Whilst most people talk about the EU from a financial point of view most seem to ignore that fact that maybe the people of this country should actually have a say in how they want europe to develop.

If the germans want to tell us how to run our economy at least they could is ask our permission first.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Britain's stance will leave us on the outside looking in and create problems for the only real wealth creators in the country, export manufacturing.

Correct. We are playing a very dangerous game here.

Untrue. (and twinkle is as left as they come so it's no surprise he is upset)

Clarification:

I agreed with the first part which I forgot to highlight, and not the second.

And I'm sure I could name at least four posters more left wing on here ;-)

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

The Euro is going down of that there can be no argument. When it goes down the only people who will come out the other side will be Germany. As British people we should all be very happy we didnt join the single currency and that for the first time in a long time we didnt bow to foreign pressure to something that does not help us in any way. Private companies are not bothered what are political stance is. They care that we have money and we spend it on things they produce. The CEO of BMW isnt going to turn around say "the British have not excepted grand leader Merkels proposal stop sending BMW's and buy no parts even if we have to pay more for it, i will not let us make money from those treacherous weasels"

 

[SWP's back]

Britain's stance will leave us on the outside looking in and create problems for the only real wealth creators in the country, export manufacturing.

Correct. We are playing a very dangerous game here.

Right you two.

Two questions:

1) As todays action does not affect the common market, how will it create problems for manufacturing.

2) You say we are now "on the outside", when have we ever led Europe? When have we be the driving force behind policy change?

All today does is safeguard our independance on our own budgets, stops the threat of single european taxation (which will be on the cards down the line) and protects our Financial Services industry (especially if the EU implements the Tobin tax within the club within a club).

Putting ideological feelings to one side. Explain why it is a bad thing?

 

[yerwot?]

by protecting his backers in the financial sector,placating his party of little-englanders,call me dave has placed a bet risking millions of jobs in foreign owned companies that have plants in the UK,predictably the press have wheeled out pictures of bulldogs,references to the blitz and europe being cut-off.Also at risk is the price of energy,the farming industry depends heavily on trade with europe,the defense industry,the travel industry,the steel industry,and on and on just to protect the spivs who caused it all in the first place,sorry forgot,it was the lollipop ladies and the libraries.Luckily the "private sector" will come to the rescue, creating dozens of jobs and we can stick two fingers up to johnny foreigner.