BoyBlue_1985
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Hamann Pineapple said:
How do i get Al Jeezera telly?
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can any club opt out of the tv deal with sky
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How do i get Al Jeezera telly?
United could certainly get more money for selling their own TV and internet rights. This is what Madrid and Barca do in Spain. However, it would be so detrimental to the overall quality of the prem league. There would be a much wider disproportion of wealth, and as a result a bigger divide of quality, if the league went down that route. The top 4 would probably make more money but then everyone else would make less.
If our club ever tried to champion individual clubs selling their own TV rights then I’d hope people would protest. Unfortunately I can see it happening in the future, much more likely than a breakaway European league, and it would be the death of English football IMO.
If our club ever tried to champion individual clubs selling their own TV rights then I’d hope people would protest. Unfortunately I can see it happening in the future, much more likely than a breakaway European league, and it would be the death of English football IMO.
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bugsyblue said:United could certainly get more money for selling their own TV and internet rights. This is what Madrid and Barca do in Spain. However, it would be so detrimental to the overall quality of the prem league. There would be a much wider disproportion of wealth, and as a result a bigger divide of quality, if the league went down that route. The top 4 would probably make more money but then everyone else would make less.
If our club ever tried to champion individual clubs selling their own TV rights then I’d hope people would protest. Unfortunately I can see it happening in the future, much more likely than a breakaway European league, and it would be the death of English football IMO.
This^^
Would be awful if that happened!
BoyBlue_1985 said:Hamann Pineapple said:Aren't Al Jazeera going to challenge SKY for the next lot of TV rights ?
How do i get Al Jeezera telly?
It will be fed through local networks.
Otherwise a good sat dish and antenna will more than suffice.
You will be able to download apps in high def to your iphone for all premier league games live within the next season of two.
Come to Oz blueboy we get every City game on 7 second delay direct to your pc or laptop through the television or of course to your television screen as is as long as you are a nightowl.
bugsyblue said:United could certainly get more money for selling their own TV and internet rights. This is what Madrid and Barca do in Spain. However, it would be so detrimental to the overall quality of the prem league. There would be a much wider disproportion of wealth, and as a result a bigger divide of quality, if the league went down that route. The top 4 would probably make more money but then everyone else would make less.
If our club ever tried to champion individual clubs selling their own TV rights then I’d hope people would protest. Unfortunately I can see it happening in the future, much more likely than a breakaway European league, and it would be the death of English football IMO.
You make a decent point but it wouldn't be the death of English football.
I am sure if Fergie had his way Manure would sell their own rights but the owners and the board have bigger issues to concern with and they wouldn't know how to maximise revenue for minimum expenditure so they will not break the mould as such.
As it is at the moment its quite unequitable , not that I am complaining but should we continue to improve or maintain our standing in the final points tally each season we will continue to get more money through the broadcast deal that is struck at the expense of others
mancity1 said:bugsyblue said:United could certainly get more money for selling their own TV and internet rights. This is what Madrid and Barca do in Spain. However, it would be so detrimental to the overall quality of the prem league. There would be a much wider disproportion of wealth, and as a result a bigger divide of quality, if the league went down that route. The top 4 would probably make more money but then everyone else would make less.
If our club ever tried to champion individual clubs selling their own TV rights then I’d hope people would protest. Unfortunately I can see it happening in the future, much more likely than a breakaway European league, and it would be the death of English football IMO.
You make a decent point but it wouldn't be the death of English football.
I am sure if Fergie had his way Manure would sell their own rights but the owners and the board have bigger issues to concern with and they wouldn't know how to maximise revenue for minimum expenditure so they will not break the mould as such.
As it is at the moment its quite unequitable , not that I am complaining but should we continue to improve or maintain our standing in the final points tally each season we will continue to get more money through the broadcast deal that is struck at the expense of others
Well apparently when the yanks bought the club this is exactly what they wanted to do. Apparently David Gill talked them around though. It may be slightly unequitable at the moment, but no where near as much as if clubs sold their individual rights. OK it might not be the death of English football but it would certainly make the divide in quality more unbalanced. And we have to remmeber that the prem is a very attractive league to foerign stations because the quality is good throughtout the twenty teams.
Wheelsy
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Let's opt out of the TV deal and become another La Liga.
No thanks.
No thanks.
Skip Donoghue
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United and Liverpool would be up for selling there own rights as they are the two biggest draws in the EPL, from a worldwide point of view...if you consider Real Madrid and Barcelona sold the rights to there games for 1.1billion and 1billion euros respectively imagine what the rags and dippers could get especially as the EPL as a product is greater than La Liga
This is exactly what the Glazers and the yanks at Liverpool would want
This is exactly what the Glazers and the yanks at Liverpool would want
marco said:about six clubs could earn more than sky pay by selling there own tv rights plus internet rights etc. but like you say the majority make the decision so it would never happen
"Could", but "wouldn't".
No one TV company could afford to buy the rights to more than one team's matches - and even if they could they wouldn't want to because on times when those two clubs were both playing at the same time, they'd be in for an avalanche of complaints from the fans of whichever club they didn't favour on their prime channel. So you'd need to find 6 prime UK channels willing to buy rights at an elevated price (say, £150m-200m a season) for ONE CLUB, and I think you'd find maybe 3 or 4 willing to do that - bear in mind that some channels, say example the BBC, would find it a far better alternative to pay a much smaller sum to buy out the rights to a consortium of the mid-table clubs rather than one top-end club. That then becomes financial disaster for the major teams that don't achieve that massive TV deal. Bearing in mind the stupid amount of media loyalty to the scum and Liverpool, and less so to Arsenal, that could easily be us missing out on the money. And heck, what media company WOULDN'T want to say that they were responsible for the implosion of Manchester City by tactically refusing them a TV deal? It would be every broadcaster's dream, to actually legitimately claim responsibility for us crashing and burning.
Then bear in mind that it's not just the UK but the rest of the world this would apply for. That's 6 major broadcasters IN EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD that you would need to find to make this a decent idea for us. Sure, Eastern Europe and Africa wouldn't really be important markets to lose out on, but the Asian TV markets and the USA would really cost us a packet to not secure top deals for.
In short, this deal would promise the scum a ridiculous amount more money than they currently make, instantly solve Liverpool and Arsenal's problems with having weakened squads, and possibly put us up the creek without a paddle.
mancity1 said:It wouldn't be in their financial interests to do so but they would contest such a sanction imposed should there be one through the courts and win their right to stay in the premiership should it ever even get to that stage.
No they wouldn't. The league is a members' club owned by the constituent clubs. There has always been the tradition that membership is earned by being promoted and retained by not getting relegated, but if one club broke a legal agreement (which is what the PL has with its TV broadcasters) then the other members would be well within their rights to exercise authority and vote that club out. So long as the league voted with a 14-club majority to ban a club, it can do so. It simply won't happen except in extreme conditions (which will most probably never be witnessed in the full duration of the PL), because no club would be stupid enough to put themselves at this risk.
The law courts would be powerless to prevent this because the PL was established as a co-owned organisation with closed membership criteria and is under no legal obligation to let anyone it doesn't want in, so long as that refusal isn't over illegal grounds (racism, sexism, homophobic intent, operating a criminal cartel etc). Breaking a legal contract for one of the most public companies in the world, and which had its terms clearly set out, is indefensible in court.
Now, this couldn't happen in the Football League, but it can in the PL.
mancity1 said:You make a decent point but it wouldn't be the death of English football.
Not in the sense of football ceasing to be played in England, but it would be the death of the Premier League as an interesting contest and it would turn the PL into every bit the boring snoozefest La Liga is outside of El Clasico. Imagine if every club in the bottom half of the had to operate on a League One budget, because that's what essentially would happen. With the other 14 clubs in the league fighting over scraps, their budgets would essentially become non-existent, their best players would jump ship at the first opportunity, and games would become exactly as predictable as La Liga's are. It would be the death of English football as an exciting contest. Might as well institute MLS rules too, reduce the league to 6 teams, eliminate relegation and have a stupid system where at the end of the season, every club still has the chance to win the league despite finishing 30-something points down on the leaders, just by getting lucky in a 3-game playoff series.
rastarick123
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Falastur said:marco said:about six clubs could earn more than sky pay by selling there own tv rights plus internet rights etc. but like you say the majority make the decision so it would never happen
No one TV company could afford to buy the rights to more than one team's matches
They would install their own channel. For example, check out the NY Mets ownership of SNY and the Yankees ownership of YES.