Can we win it next year?

We will win it next year, with or without Mancini.

People talk about all the "big" sides improving, maybe an improved Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool they might take more than the 1 point they took off United this season.
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
Not a cat in hell's chance with the current manager and imbalanced squad, and here's why:
1) It took 4 months for sides to work out how to play against us, ie 8 men behind the ball and harry our midfield. We amassed 45 points in 18 games before this realisation became public knowledge. Since, we've managed just 26 in our last 14. Translate this latter form across an entire season (and let's face it, opposition teams are not going to suddenly forget what they've learned) and we're looking at around 71 points. That wouldn't be enough to finish in the top 4 never mind win the league.
2) 2 wins in 10 away games, and those two courtesy only of truly snivelling surrenders by Villa and Wigan. Failed to score in 6 of them.
3) European incompetence. With both Inter and City, Mancini has won just 3 of 16 away games in Europe and 2 of those were against a Villareal youth team shorn of 12 first choice players and Salzburg Red Bulls, little more than a Championship side. Given that CL money is integral to our future under FFP, I can't imagine the owners will be inspired by this record.
4) Judgement. 23m wasted on Balotelli, 28m wasted on Dzeko, 24m wasted on Milner, 16m wasted on Kolarov etc etc. Would you want any of them in the trenches with you? Chuck in Adebayor and Tevez, who both have to go for obvious reasons, and the hugely overrated Johnson, and it's clear the squad needs fairly major surgery.
5) Tactics. One paced tippy tap, reliant on full backs for width, is all we have. I have heard or seen nothing from Mancini to suggest he even acknowledges our desperate need for width, pace and players that can whip in an accurate cross. In fact, almost the opposite, as he greets every impotent, toothless defeat with a load of old bunko about how "we created lots of chances and deed not deserve to lose thees".
6) The ongoing folly of trusting Balotelli. A footballing fraud, who plays the game entirely for himself and not for Manchester City. Mancini's biggest mistake.
7) FFP - those expecting a big summer spend aren't going to get it, unless we sell big to generate funds. Balotelli, Adebayor and Tevez have to go for obvious reasons, and personally I'd chuck in Johnson, the abominable Savic and maybe Dzeko. Whatever, the first 5 named there might raise us 60m, although given the global recession that may be wishful thinking. We'd need to make that money go a long way. 2 forwards, 2 wingers, a genuinely mobile box to box midfielder and a quality back up centre half.

If we can get Mourinho then the title could be ours, although there are no guarantees. Stick with Mancini and we will win nowt. He's taken us as far as he can. And I say that as someone who likes Mancini and hates Mourinho


This sums it up perfectly. It won't be acknowledged as such because many think you should stick with a manager for the simple reason that Ferguson was given time.

We could easily have a situation where we lose 3 if not all of our forwards next season. Tevez will go and rightly so after what he did, balotelli surely has to go. Dzeko isn't good enough unless we buy Bale and Chamberlain and even then is no better than Adebayor and Aguero is wanted by Madrid so who knows.

Mancini's points per game in our last 20 games is no better than last season.

What he did leaving Balotelli on yesterday was poor management and bringing Tevez on with 7 minutes to go in a game we needed to win madness.

I will be forever grateful to him for the FA cup win but his record this season is poor and after the fantastic start we had, to win nothing is a poor return.
 
collie41 said:
Utd are in transformation, Jones, Smalling, Cleverly, De Gea ect, have had to bring back Scholes, and play Giggs more than they'd like. Ferdinand past his best and Vidic out for most of the season, they should've been there for the taking this time, next year they will be much better, will we?

Yes we can but we wont certainly not whilst Mancini is in charge and i feel that we are going to loose an awful lot of players this summer

We need to change out style we need to be more direct unfortunately Mancini has proved to date at least he is unable to change anything

New manager for me please
 
Only if we get rid of the dross and add some quality.

Out: Tevez £25 million
Dzeko - swap with Higuain
Kolorov £10 million
Adebayor £18 million
Balotelli £28 million
De jong £12 million
Johnson £17 million

In: Hummels £ 17 million
Martinez £20 million
Hazard £28 million
Lavezzi £30 million
Cavani £34 million
Higuain - Dzeko

..................Hart....................

..Micah..Komps..Hummels..Clichy

.................Toure............

...Hazard.........Silva.....Lavezzi..

...........Aguero.......Cavani......

That team WILL win us the title.
 
lmfao why does everyone think Mourinho 1/ is available 2/ would come to City?

He has been aggravating for a new contract at Madrid.
 
kippaxking79 said:
Only if we get rid of the dross and add some quality.

Out: Tevez £25 million
Dzeko - swap with Higuain
Kolorov £10 million
Adebayor £18 million
Balotelli £28 million
De jong £12 million
Johnson £17 million

In: Hummels £ 17 million
Martinez £20 million
Hazard £28 million
Lavezzi £30 million
Cavani £34 million
Higuain - Dzeko

..................Hart....................

..Micah..Komps..Hummels..Clichy

.................Toure............

...Hazard.........Silva.....Lavezzi..

...........Aguero.......Cavani......

That team WILL win us the title.

it stands a chance i'll give you that.
 
collie41 said:
Utd are in transformation, Jones, Smalling, Cleverly, De Gea ect, have had to bring back Scholes, and play Giggs more than they'd like. Ferdinand past his best and Vidic out for most of the season, they should've been there for the taking this time, next year they will be much better, will we?

They would have been there for the taking had refs not lost their fucking whistles at crucial times, and had the rest of the PL teams been treated to such largesse by the tossers in black we would have been home and dry months ago!
 
Last year we finished with 71 points - we have 71 now and there are still points to play for.
Yes it is a real shame we did not win the prem this year but facts are facts and we just did not manage it - we will but this squad needs a little more time and this experience will be good for us .
What does not kill you always makes you stronger
 

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