Car Detailing.

Two Gun Bob said:
Our middle daughter can wear a man down at twenty paces and reduce and errant soul to a gibbering wreck and has made numerous calls to the Bob Helpline (c) open 24 hours 7 days a week for assistance with her piece of tin. Also five guest appearances dressed fully in PPE maintaining 2 metre protocol to display her derision at her cars paintwork in ..actual person. But I am not a car valeter although I did work for a while bogging shitters back into Radcliffe auction for a tickle and also a stint in retail.

The car is an Astra SRI finished in deathly nightshade met-black and around 15 months old with circa 16k up on the odometer so hardly espousing a hard life and no where near hard as mine has just become. She frets and inhabits the mysteriously myriad-al world of the A-Symmetrical not dissimilar to me which must be down to genetics as I could not sleep if a picture was crooked or something appeared skew -whiff. I am drifting so my dilemma is to do with her swirl marks showing up in our newly arrived bright sunshine and also mysterious shadows that incandescently reflect striations against her paintwork. I have no idea what my olden chums in apartments 3, 4 and 5a must be thinking as we both strut cock like around her nasty dilemma whilst twisting necks in unnatural posture.

It's day three now and I cant take much more so who on here is a detailer or an amateur valet that can offer assistance as I am at my proper tits end with it all .. the car not the daughter : / I am aware it is caused by washing techniques and in most cases unavoidable unless due diligence is observed utilizing the nororious two bucket technique. I have tried hand polishing with Mequires with little effect and fear the only way is to employ the services of a good detailer who is expert in car restoration procedure. I was going to get an orbital polisher from my mate Jeff but was worried about the risk of burn or misguided usage. A DA polisher would be more kind to the pain-t work than an orbital but would it be up to the job? So who on here has had success with this summer time malady and could offer tips to make a worried man sleep at night. They are only visible in direct sunlight and not at all heavy to be fair but they are there all the same. Yes yes I know ..drive it in the shade would be top tip nos 1 but I need to nip this in the bud before we are both carted of to The Farm for our own restoration treatment.

Also general overall tips on valeting a vehicle correctly and what products Moon people recommend to get the job done well inside and out. We pay a lot for cars so a little T and C goes a long long way.. Should I buy a DA polisher then and what is the most recommended on the market under a ton. That is all except to quote a famous saying from one of our greats Winston Blessed Churchill. "Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak .. Courage is what it also takes to sit down and listen"....I am all ears !

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Jordans detailing world, his workshop is in mossley, you will find him through Facebook have a look plenty of examples of his standard of work,the best around imo, it’s not cheap but worth every penny, I had my car done 3 years ago, 5 years the work lasts, not a swirl in sight.
 
5 pages of sensible, helpful suggestions? BM is going to the dogs! The standard advice on here was always " smash the windows, burn it and claim on the insurance " what has happened to BM?
 
Two Gun Bob said:
Our middle daughter can wear a man down at twenty paces and reduce and errant soul to a gibbering wreck and has made numerous calls to the Bob Helpline (c) open 24 hours 7 days a week for assistance with her piece of tin. Also five guest appearances dressed fully in PPE maintaining 2 metre protocol to display her derision at her cars paintwork in ..actual person. But I am not a car valeter although I did work for a while bogging shitters back into Radcliffe auction for a tickle and also a stint in retail.

The car is an Astra SRI finished in deathly nightshade met-black and around 15 months old with circa 16k up on the odometer so hardly espousing a hard life and no where near hard as mine has just become. She frets and inhabits the mysteriously myriad-al world of the A-Symmetrical not dissimilar to me which must be down to genetics as I could not sleep if a picture was crooked or something appeared skew -whiff. I am drifting so my dilemma is to do with her swirl marks showing up in our newly arrived bright sunshine and also mysterious shadows that incandescently reflect striations against her paintwork. I have no idea what my olden chums in apartments 3, 4 and 5a must be thinking as we both strut cock like around her nasty dilemma whilst twisting necks in unnatural posture.

It's day three now and I cant take much more so who on here is a detailer or an amateur valet that can offer assistance as I am at my proper tits end with it all .. the car not the daughter : / I am aware it is caused by washing techniques and in most cases unavoidable unless due diligence is observed utilizing the nororious two bucket technique. I have tried hand polishing with Mequires with little effect and fear the only way is to employ the services of a good detailer who is expert in car restoration procedure. I was going to get an orbital polisher from my mate Jeff but was worried about the risk of burn or misguided usage. A DA polisher would be more kind to the pain-t work than an orbital but would it be up to the job? So who on here has had success with this summer time malady and could offer tips to make a worried man sleep at night. They are only visible in direct sunlight and not at all heavy to be fair but they are there all the same. Yes yes I know ..drive it in the shade would be top tip nos 1 but I need to nip this in the bud before we are both carted of to The Farm for our own restoration treatment.

Also general overall tips on valeting a vehicle correctly and what products Moon people recommend to get the job done well inside and out. We pay a lot for cars so a little T and C goes a long long way.. Should I buy a DA polisher then and what is the most recommended on the market under a ton. That is all except to quote a famous saying from one of our greats Winston Blessed Churchill. "Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak .. Courage is what it also takes to sit down and listen"....I am all ears !

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I'll raise you a wife who insisted on using microfiber cloths to wipe dry dust off of the paint. By the time I finally got it through to her it was too late. Add the door dings from dorks and the rock chips on the hood from the sloping front design and I'm gutted. My poor black Lexus.
Interior, running gear, A/C, and stereo all mint.
 
RadcliffeRick said:
5 pages of sensible, helpful suggestions? BM is going to the dogs! The standard advice on here was always " smash the windows, burn it and claim on the insurance " what has happened to BM?
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With assistance from moderation and a firm hand on the tiller this forum has come of age, maturing considerably throughout lockdown.
 
A few other things I think are important to mention.

I am not a detailer but I do work very closely with one and am always asking him why he is doing things and what he is using to do it.

Scratches or marks that can be removed are in the lacquer not in the paint. Once you get to the paint you can't do anything.

The skill of a detailer in removing these marks is in their ability to remove the mark only to the point in the lacquer that the imperfections are effecting. Anyone doing this without experience will run the risk of getting rid of all the marks but only leaving a nano thin layer of lacquer on the paint. If at this point you have the car paint protected by either film (what I do) or ceramic (what detailers do) then you will have no issues. However if you don't you could end up in the situation that any new marks that are put on the car through general use/washing now go direct to the paint and a respray is your only option to make good.

Just wanting to put out the worst case scenario. I am confident that this wont happen but wanted you to be aware that it could/does.
 
mindmyp's_n_q's said:
A few other things I think are important to mention.

I am not a detailer but I do work very closely with one and am always asking him why he is doing things and what he is using to do it.

Scratches or marks that can be removed are in the lacquer not in the paint. Once you get to the paint you can't do anything.

The skill of a detailer in removing these marks is in their ability to remove the mark only to the point in the lacquer that the imperfections are effecting. Anyone doing this without experience will run the risk of getting rid of all the marks but only leaving a nano thin layer of lacquer on the paint. If at this point you have the car paint protected by either film (what I do) or ceramic (what detailers do) then you will have no issues. However if you don't you could end up in the situation that any new marks that are put on the car through general use/washing now go direct to the paint and a respray is your only option to make good.

Just wanting to put out the worst case scenario. I am confident that this wont happen but wanted you to be aware that it could/does.
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Thanks for the heads-up mate, I may just end up utilizing the services of a good detailer.
 
mindmyp's_n_q's said:
If it's like that(same effect just not a much) it will need a machine polish to get out.

I wouldn't trust it to anyone who hasn't had experience.

Even if you had an idiot proof buffer it can still go wrong if you use the wrong head/paste/polish.

I would also say it's nothing you have done. It's sanding marks from the factory that they haven't polished out. Not all cars go through rigorous paint control and with black it just shows up more. If the car was white for example you would never see this even in the sun.

It's not down to the cost of the car either. I have worked on cars worth over £3m that have had similar issues direct from the factory. Many detailers will do a paint correction finish to cars before they have even left the showroom to be delivered to customers. It is not an uncommon issue.

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Just looked through my camera roll to see if I had an example and this is the front of an 812 Ferrari superfast that I picked up straight off the truck (delivery mileage)
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Any jobs going at your place mate ?

Scottyboi said:
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Don't think he'd be too impressed with my method, wait til it's pissing down, go out with a soapy sponge, scrub it down, then let nature do its thing .
 
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