Caroline Flack - rest in peace

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Where’s the compassion from Collymore in the bile he writes and tweets?

You can’t criticise and abuse others in a nicer way by putting it in an article and then when you get the fall out claim mental health.

I could call you the worse things under the sun and then when you and others give me shit for it claim you’re affecting my mental health as if it’s some sort of free cop out for the actions you have taken.

Iet me just say I think Collymore is a **** for the shit he comes out with, and I also think he's a **** for twatting Ulrika as do 99% on here going off his thread, actually 100%.

So how should all the posters feel about Caroline doing the same but on a worse scale, apparently?
 
I think the people who look at it differently are those who whether or not it’s PC to say so they do see a difference between a man hitting a woman or a woman hitting a man, of course it’s not right to hit someone with anything but in my mind there’s a difference between a man and a woman hitting their partner
I’m sure people can name terrible cases of men being bullied and beaten by their partner but there’s always extreme cases in any argument

I’ve already admitted as such on this thread mate. Many will disagree with me but it’s just how I feel.

Both are very wrong of course but generally speaking, a man hitting a woman is worse IMO.
 
Iet me just say I think Collymore is a **** for the shit he comes out with, and I also think he's a **** for twatting Ulrika as do 99% on here going off his thread, actually 100%.

So how should all the posters feel about Caroline doing the same but on a worse scale, apparently?
You can't excuse domestic violence,caroline says above the blood was hers,until we get the full facts that remains to be seen,the diference would be that caroline took the abuse from everyone whilst collymore is the one giving it out day after day so he has shown his character extends beyond wacking ulrika
 
You can't excuse domestic violence,caroline says above the blood was hers,until we get the full facts that remains to be seen,the diference would be that caroline took the abuse from everyone whilst collymore is the one giving it out day after day so he has shown his character extends beyond wacking ulrika
I dint it will get come out Karen tbh. The case will no longer go ahead. The fact that this whole thing got into the press is disgraceful. Innocent until proven guilty was never an option for this women sadly and more should be focused on how this got out to the whole world
 
I dint it will get come out Karen tbh. The case will no longer go ahead. The fact that this whole thing got into the press is disgraceful. Innocent until proven guilty was never an option for this women sadly and more should be focused on how this got out to the whole world
Yes i have always been in favour of waiting till people get to court before it's reported,except in cases like saville etc when more people are encouraged to come foward,sadly there is always someone who wants to make a quick buck by putting it out
 
You can't excuse domestic violence,caroline says above the blood was hers,until we get the full facts that remains to be seen,the diference would be that caroline took the abuse from everyone whilst collymore is the one giving it out day after day so he has shown his character extends beyond wacking ulrika
As I put in my post Karen he's a **** for the shit he comes out with, also a **** for giving Ulrika a good hiding. Two different things.

He was plastered all over the papers/news for that incident & was just wondering what the difference was between the two cases?

All I've heard is Collymore is a twat & he gives abuse out, etc etc.
 
You can't excuse domestic violence,caroline says above the blood was hers,until we get the full facts that remains to be seen,the diference would be that caroline took the abuse from everyone whilst collymore is the one giving it out day after day so he has shown his character extends beyond wacking ulrika
Why are you so willing to believe an "Unpublished" letter rather than statements given in court?

She didn't post the "letter". So she obviously couldn't stand behind it. You don't accidentally hit someone over the head with a lamp while they are sleeping.
 
I’ve already admitted as such on this thread mate. Many will disagree with me but it’s just how I feel.

Both are very wrong of course but generally speaking, a man hitting a woman is worse IMO.
I think someone hitting someone who is weaker and unable to defend themselves is more wrong than someone hitting someone who physically is capable of stopping the abuse if they get to a point where they genuinely feel they have to. So a man hitting a woman, in most circumstances, is worse, same for hitting a child, or a disabled person.

As you say, obviously both are very wrong, but one is, in my opinion, significantly worse, as the fear that comes with that helplessness of being completely at the mercy of the person attacking you is a pretty significant factor.
 
tragedy of this, is her death will likely be forgotten in a few months

and the trolls and casual posters will be on the back of the next celeb who is in the headlines

only a suicide makes opinion change, which by then is too late.
 
As I put in my post Karen he's a **** for the shit he comes out with, also a **** for giving Ulrika a good hiding. Two different things.

He was plastered all over the papers/news for that incident & was just wondering what the difference was between the two cases?

All I've heard is Collymore is a twat & he gives abuse out, etc etc.

If you take away how vile he is and just at the facts then there might not be any difference,people will always be bias against someone like him

He punched a women in public and there were witnesses,if what caroline said was true and it was her blood it might not be that straight foward
 
Why are you so willing to believe an "Unpublished" letter rather than statements given in court?

She didn't post the "letter". So she obviously couldn't stand behind it. You don't accidentally hit someone over the head with a lamp while they are sleeping.
She was advised not to post it by several people so she gave it to the family,the full court case hadn't begun so the charges hadn't been tested,i'm not saying i believe that more than anything else it just adds a bit of balance and 3rdly we have the boyfriend vehmently against prosecution,she was clearly suffering with mental illness for a while,i know that to be a fact and if it was her snapping that might have been taken into account

Anyway i doubt we'l ever find out for sure although the boyfriend has always backed her

It's a sad story alround,mental illness,trolling,media,she found texts that she thought showed he was cheating and that had happened to her by her fiance recently,it's not as clear cut as colloymore punching a women in public

I'm not a black and person on any subject,i always consider the inbetween stuff as well

I must stress domestic violence is wrong
 
I think someone hitting someone who is weaker and unable to defend themselves is more wrong than someone hitting someone who physically is capable of stopping the abuse if they get to a point where they genuinely feel they have to. So a man hitting a woman, in most circumstances, is worse, same for hitting a child, or a disabled person.

As you say, obviously both are very wrong, but one is, in my opinion, significantly worse, as the fear that comes with that helplessness of being completely at the mercy of the person attacking you is a pretty significant factor.

You’ve articulated my point more successfully than I have.
 
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/rugby-star-rowan-baxters-wife-21527785

I expect this wanker will have some using the mental illness defence when he was just an evil spiteful fucker in all probability

If Flack was surrounded by friends and family and financially secure what are those of us with mental issues with none of those things meant to do? Money removes 95% of worries. Call me a bastard but I just find it hard to sympathise with successful wealthy people with emotional issues. I'm not denying their demons are very real mind you.

Society is not going to walk on eggshells with everyone
 
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/rugby-star-rowan-baxters-wife-21527785

I expect this wanker will have some using the mental illness defence when he was just an evil spiteful fucker in all probability

If Flack was surrounded by friends and family and financially secure what are those of us with mental issues with none of those things meant to do? Money removes 95% of worries. Call me a bastard but I just find it hard to sympathise with successful wealthy people with emotional issues. I'm not denying their demons are very real mind you.

Society is not going to walk on eggshells with everyone
That is very disappointing from you of all people,money makes no difference to mental health,if it did why is she dead?
 
That is very disappointing from you of all people,money makes no difference to mental health,if it did why is she dead?

I'm not saying money buys happiness I'm just saying I find it hard to sympathise with the wealthy because wealth removes nearly all major stress.
That's why everyone wants to be financially secure surely?
 
I'm not saying money buys happiness I'm just saying I find it hard to sympathise with the wealthy because wealth removes nearly all major stress.
That's why everyone wants to be financially secure surely?
It pays the bils but helping mental illness it clearly doesn't help at all,she was in therapy of several types since the arrest,she had friends/family but still killed herself,the instagram post she was told not to send so she gave it to her family screams of her feeling like a burden which is a very common cause of suicide
 
I'm not saying money buys happiness I'm just saying I find it hard to sympathise with the wealthy because wealth removes nearly all major stress.
That's why everyone wants to be financially secure surely?

Depression and stress are totally different things bud and one the former doesn’t give a fuck about money.
 

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