Thanks. I've had better spells in my life but I'm safe at the moment and my job's still viable, so things could definitely be a lot worse.
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CAS judgement: UEFA ban overturned, City exonerated (report out p603)
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Thanks. I've had better spells in my life but I'm safe at the moment and my job's still viable, so things could definitely be a lot worse.
andyhinch
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As long as you’ve got an exit strategy if push comes to shove.Thanks. I've had better spells in my life but I'm safe at the moment and my job's still viable, so things could definitely be a lot worse.
As long as you’ve got an exit strategy if push comes to shove.
Yes, it's there if it becomes absolutely necessary.
asahartford1
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As someone who lives abroad and never listens to the radio station that employs Simon Jordan, I'm amazed by the fact that he's presented as an authority on football finance. Haven't they checked his record at Crystal Palace? He's paid to pontificate on a subject after failing wretchedly when given a chance to demonstrate his expertise in a practical setting.
I'm tempted to say that I reckon the best policy with this guy isn't to engage in argument with him or produce videos rebutting his views, but instead to mount a concerted attack on his credibility as a commentator in this area. His role at TS is akin to employing Gary Glitter to talk about ethical babysitting or inviting Vladimir Putin to extol the virtues of pacifism.
He did not go bankrupt.
"I just ran out of cash" S. Jordan 2019.
A posh voice, a decent lexicon, and a public school education does little to polish a turd imo.
Sounds like a lispy Sarf London cockney **** to me.A posh voice
asahartford1
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Sounds like a lispy Sarf London cockney **** to me.
More posh than me.
I thought Middleton was posh as a kid.
Centurions
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That'll be "fecal matter" to you, you peasant.He did not go bankrupt.
"I just ran out of cash" S. Jordan 2019.
A posh voice, a decent lexicon, and a public school education does little to polish a turd imo.
Kinkys Left Foot
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As others have said TS isn't a sports news channel per se it constantly plays good cop, bad cop and invites fans to phone in to react to their ridiculous statements dressed up as fact. They aren't interested in discussing truths against fabrication or educating the listeners, they want partisan vitriol to match 100% Mo (Klopps personal fluffer) and Tits out Jackie going at it hammer and tongue for the delectation of other listeners whilst making themselves out to be a pair of knobs. It's doubtful either of them could IQ their way out of a shoebox.
That fact which suits the likes of that smug **** Jordan right down to the ground - he can make mincemeat of the great unwashed who phone into these shows and get through. It's why post match invariably they allow calls through from pissed up City fans who proceed to f and jeff or fail to make any form of coherent point and are instantly dismissed thereby painting the fanbase as some form of illiterate neanderthals. If there was a valid vetting process these loons wouldn't be allowed to get through in the first instance but that's who they want on.
Those of us with a firm grasp of the case history of City and FFP and the resulting CAS findings - all 93 pages, which quite clearly indicate their findings and reasons, legally and evidentially, which exonerate City fully from any accusation of "Owner sponsorship funding", which is the one and only breach of FFP allegation from UEFA (apart from the none co-operation - which was also fully explored in the findings), are not invited on to share any thoughts on the matter.
We know it was alleged there were breaches of the "Break Even" allowable figure after some jiggery pokery by UEFA in 2012 - 2013 and despite our protestations, took the infamous "pinch". I often wonder in retrospect if Khaldoon wishes he had told Infantino to fuck off and see you in court with your FFP bullshit and accountancy figure manipulations of pre-2010 salaries.
In any event Jordan often refers to this Settlement Agreement of 16.06.2014 as "Guilty of breaching FFP" (these alleged regulatory breaches never resulted in a referral by UEFA and this is made clear in Point 150 of the CAS findings so although we suffered a squad deduction and withholding of 20M UEFA funds - we were never found guilty of breaching FFP) and conflates it with the Der Spiegel emails and subsequent investigation Der Spiegel Shit to deliberately muddy the waters, he combines this with the well debunked none-cooperation fine to indicate guilt of something that only exists in the minds of the partisan.
If Jordan was as clever as he thinks he is, then surely he has read that document CAS Findings. He couldn't have read it and perversely come to any other conclusion than the evidence presented was not supported by factual events and that those actual events which were supported by evidence from the parties subject to the contract, clearly indicated allegations made were unfounded and the Judges at CAS were not sufficiently comfortable (the required "burden of proof") with those allegations.
That leaves us with:
a) He's really thick as mince and doesn't understand the legal document
b) He understands it but lies and continues to make slurs against the club as it doesn't fit with his personal agenda
c) He understands it but wants to keep to TS's narrative
d) He's not read it and makes allegations based on partisan twitterati bullshit
e) He remains entrenched with the tired old football model of Loan and debt repayment as the only viable way to run a 21st Century football club and refuses to believe in the equity investment model and subsequent venture capital investment projects that this attracts. As such he rails against City's ownership with these tired old allegations.
I can't wait for this final PL case to be ended and we can once and for all put this litigation bollocks behind us and get on with dominating world football Plan A.
That fact which suits the likes of that smug **** Jordan right down to the ground - he can make mincemeat of the great unwashed who phone into these shows and get through. It's why post match invariably they allow calls through from pissed up City fans who proceed to f and jeff or fail to make any form of coherent point and are instantly dismissed thereby painting the fanbase as some form of illiterate neanderthals. If there was a valid vetting process these loons wouldn't be allowed to get through in the first instance but that's who they want on.
Those of us with a firm grasp of the case history of City and FFP and the resulting CAS findings - all 93 pages, which quite clearly indicate their findings and reasons, legally and evidentially, which exonerate City fully from any accusation of "Owner sponsorship funding", which is the one and only breach of FFP allegation from UEFA (apart from the none co-operation - which was also fully explored in the findings), are not invited on to share any thoughts on the matter.
We know it was alleged there were breaches of the "Break Even" allowable figure after some jiggery pokery by UEFA in 2012 - 2013 and despite our protestations, took the infamous "pinch". I often wonder in retrospect if Khaldoon wishes he had told Infantino to fuck off and see you in court with your FFP bullshit and accountancy figure manipulations of pre-2010 salaries.
In any event Jordan often refers to this Settlement Agreement of 16.06.2014 as "Guilty of breaching FFP" (these alleged regulatory breaches never resulted in a referral by UEFA and this is made clear in Point 150 of the CAS findings so although we suffered a squad deduction and withholding of 20M UEFA funds - we were never found guilty of breaching FFP) and conflates it with the Der Spiegel emails and subsequent investigation Der Spiegel Shit to deliberately muddy the waters, he combines this with the well debunked none-cooperation fine to indicate guilt of something that only exists in the minds of the partisan.
If Jordan was as clever as he thinks he is, then surely he has read that document CAS Findings. He couldn't have read it and perversely come to any other conclusion than the evidence presented was not supported by factual events and that those actual events which were supported by evidence from the parties subject to the contract, clearly indicated allegations made were unfounded and the Judges at CAS were not sufficiently comfortable (the required "burden of proof") with those allegations.
That leaves us with:
a) He's really thick as mince and doesn't understand the legal document
b) He understands it but lies and continues to make slurs against the club as it doesn't fit with his personal agenda
c) He understands it but wants to keep to TS's narrative
d) He's not read it and makes allegations based on partisan twitterati bullshit
e) He remains entrenched with the tired old football model of Loan and debt repayment as the only viable way to run a 21st Century football club and refuses to believe in the equity investment model and subsequent venture capital investment projects that this attracts. As such he rails against City's ownership with these tired old allegations.
I can't wait for this final PL case to be ended and we can once and for all put this litigation bollocks behind us and get on with dominating world football Plan A.
gordondaviesmoustache
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On what planet does he have a posh voice and a decent lexicon?He did not go bankrupt.
"I just ran out of cash" S. Jordan 2019.
A posh voice, a decent lexicon, and a public school education does little to polish a turd imo.
As others have said TS isn't a sports news channel per se it constantly plays good cop, bad cop and invites fans to phone in to react to their ridiculous statements dressed up as fact. They aren't interested in discussing truths against fabrication or educating the listeners, they want partisan vitriol to match 100% Mo (Klopps personal fluffer) and Tits out Jackie going at it hammer and tongue for the delectation of other listeners whilst making themselves out to be a pair of knobs. It's doubtful either of them could IQ their way out of a shoebox.
That fact which suits the likes of that smug **** Jordan right down to the ground - he can make mincemeat of the great unwashed who phone into these shows and get through. It's why post match invariably they allow calls through from pissed up City fans who proceed to f and jeff or fail to make any form of coherent point and are instantly dismissed thereby painting the fanbase as some form of illiterate neanderthals. If there was a valid vetting process these loons wouldn't be allowed to get through in the first instance but that's who they want on.
Those of us with a firm grasp of the case history of City and FFP and the resulting CAS findings - all 93 pages, which quite clearly indicate their findings and reasons, legally and evidentially, which exonerate City fully from any accusation of "Owner sponsorship funding", which is the one and only breach of FFP allegation from UEFA (apart from the none co-operation - which was also fully explored in the findings), are not invited on to share any thoughts on the matter.
We know it was alleged there were breaches of the "Break Even" allowable figure after some jiggery pokery by UEFA in 2012 - 2013 and despite our protestations, took the infamous "pinch". I often wonder in retrospect if Khaldoon wishes he had told Infantino to fuck off and see you in court with your FFP bullshit and accountancy figure manipulations of pre-2010 salaries.
In any event Jordan often refers to this Settlement Agreement of 16.06.2014 as "Guilty of breaching FFP" (these alleged regulatory breaches never resulted in a referral by UEFA and this is made clear in Point 150 of the CAS findings so although we suffered a squad deduction and withholding of 20M UEFA funds - we were never found guilty of breaching FFP) and conflates it with the Der Spiegel emails and subsequent investigation Der Spiegel Shit to deliberately muddy the waters, he combines this with the well debunked none-cooperation fine to indicate guilt of something that only exists in the minds of the partisan.
If Jordan was as clever as he thinks he is, then surely he has read that document CAS Findings. He couldn't have read it and perversely come to any other conclusion than the evidence presented was not supported by factual events and that those actual events which were supported by evidence from the parties subject to the contract, clearly indicated allegations made were unfounded and the Judges at CAS were not sufficiently comfortable (the required "burden of proof") with those allegations.
That leaves us with:
a) He's really thick as mince and doesn't understand the legal document
b) He understands it but lies and continues to make slurs against the club as it doesn't fit with his personal agenda
c) He understands it but wants to keep to TS's narrative
d) He's not read it and makes allegations based on partisan twitterati bullshit
e) He remains entrenched with the tired old football model of Loan and debt repayment as the only viable way to run a 21st Century football club and refuses to believe in the equity investment model and subsequent venture capital investment projects that this attracts. As such he rails against City's ownership with these tired old allegations.
I can't wait for this final PL case to be ended and we can once and for all put this litigation bollocks behind us and get on with dominating world football Plan A.
He said we cheated because we didn’t get done because of the time length