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Catastrophic transfers are killing us.
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Overall seems from the outside, we have tried to get away with it this year, and maybe down to a combination of factors: Pep not already signing extension, wanting to always work with a smaller squad, upcoming change of director of football, current players still good enough, squad big enough to cope with injuries etc. With us it seems out to get new players in January in a number of key positions, it does seem to point to this being definite gambles taken and mistake of management that are now being forced to act on to correct these, when these should already have been solutions i.e. where are goals coming from outside of Haaland, what if Rodri is injured, too many injury prone players in defence etc.
Easy though from the outside and with hindsight to say that other players wouldn't have step up already and scored more, or other players combined couldn't have covered better Rodri's absence etc. With City overall doing a great job in recruiting and factoring in that some mistake will be made, only really would say that it is more the combination of potential lack of goals, lack of cover for Rodri and injury potential in defence that we should not have been in a position to finding ourselves dealing with altogether, and where more risk mitigation to reducing one or more of these factors would have given us potentially better ability to cope until the Jan window, along with some improvements in recent recruitment and handling of youth players.
Philips, Grealish were good players at their previous clubs and whether its been asking to play a different role or not having being good enough to then make the step up at City etc. this therefore doesn't equate to being able to put full blame on management getting recruitment decisions wrong.
Nunes believe there is a good player there and was good player at Sporting. Seemed a bit of a leftfield purchase going off his time at Wolves though, other than being a back up player that might improve, and could have potentially spent the money on another player that other teams like Brighton, Bournemouth etc. seem to find.
Palmer guessing was not wanted to be loaned out by City, and was deemed good enough to stay and fight his way into playing (Right attitude expected of someone playing for the club), but he didn't want to and therefore we agreed his sale. Gutted he left and not loaning from the outside seems a big mistake where he could have got more playing time and potential come back a more established player or be sold for more money. Hindsight again easy to say but everyone could see the lad had great potential so does seem like a big mistake in wanting to cash in even though the offer seemed great at the time, or else there is more to this decision overall. If it was also down to an assessment of his attitude and not wanting to stay and fight for a place, wanting more immediate playing time, if this was the case, can this be deemed as just believing in yourself rather than part of having any type of bad attitude. Difficult for our youth players if not loaned out until established if not getting enough minutes at City.
Easy though from the outside and with hindsight to say that other players wouldn't have step up already and scored more, or other players combined couldn't have covered better Rodri's absence etc. With City overall doing a great job in recruiting and factoring in that some mistake will be made, only really would say that it is more the combination of potential lack of goals, lack of cover for Rodri and injury potential in defence that we should not have been in a position to finding ourselves dealing with altogether, and where more risk mitigation to reducing one or more of these factors would have given us potentially better ability to cope until the Jan window, along with some improvements in recent recruitment and handling of youth players.
Philips, Grealish were good players at their previous clubs and whether its been asking to play a different role or not having being good enough to then make the step up at City etc. this therefore doesn't equate to being able to put full blame on management getting recruitment decisions wrong.
Nunes believe there is a good player there and was good player at Sporting. Seemed a bit of a leftfield purchase going off his time at Wolves though, other than being a back up player that might improve, and could have potentially spent the money on another player that other teams like Brighton, Bournemouth etc. seem to find.
Palmer guessing was not wanted to be loaned out by City, and was deemed good enough to stay and fight his way into playing (Right attitude expected of someone playing for the club), but he didn't want to and therefore we agreed his sale. Gutted he left and not loaning from the outside seems a big mistake where he could have got more playing time and potential come back a more established player or be sold for more money. Hindsight again easy to say but everyone could see the lad had great potential so does seem like a big mistake in wanting to cash in even though the offer seemed great at the time, or else there is more to this decision overall. If it was also down to an assessment of his attitude and not wanting to stay and fight for a place, wanting more immediate playing time, if this was the case, can this be deemed as just believing in yourself rather than part of having any type of bad attitude. Difficult for our youth players if not loaned out until established if not getting enough minutes at City.
Gone for a Burton
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Different values & understanding of catastrophic !!Maybe but the term adequately describes the deal that brought a certain Mr. Phillips to Manchester and would appear accurate in the case of Nunes, certainly if one were to remember him by his last performance.
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What a cock of a thread, it's embarrassing.
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Pep is fine. But he's stubborn. The problem right now is that our side isn't good enough to play his tactics.The point about playing Madrid off the park 6 months ago is important, as is the fact we were clear favourites going into the season. We have lost Ballon DOr winner Rodri, he is worth 2 goals a game by stopping at least one from the opposition and being integral for at least one for us for EVERY game. The whole structure of our team has collapsed, he was the keystone. The knock on effect is the loss of confidence throughout the setup. All the other elements that made us dominant are still there including Pep. I think it is safe to say this season is a writeoff, a bit like 2020, however we ended that season strongly smashing the Covid champions. If next season continues like this one with Rodri back then it’s time for a revamp, maybe without Pep. Until then I trust in the great man.
Pep mentioned the other day that not once had his preferred defence trained together. Lack of fitness has a lot to do with it.Pep is fine. But he's stubborn. The problem right now is that our side isn't good enough to play his tactics.
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It would be a mistake if he changed our tactics because we will never get back to what we were if we did. The whole Pep ball system is complex hence the difficulty in developing it when he first arrived and in other teams and managers replicating it.Pep is fine. But he's stubborn. The problem right now is that our side isn't good enough to play his tactics.
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Yes, that's right. He doesn't coach tackling and he'll never get away with this tik-taka stuff in the PL.Pep is fine. But he's stubborn. The problem right now is that our side isn't good enough to play his tactics.
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Semantics over a word methinks at play here.Different values & understanding of catastrophic !!
The general understanding I, and I would say a Mojority take, is that some poor decisions have been made in relation to recruitment in recent times. Catastrophic is a tad too strong but would it be true if we end up finishing 8th or 9th this season?
It would not of course be truly Catastrophic in the sense of a decision by the Independent Panel to punish City by way of relegation. Now that event which could potentially occur in 25 would be a catastrophe Imo.
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We let Barca have Omar and brought back Gundogan - big mistake.Sick of people acting like Gundogan was some huge blunder by the club.
We got him on a free because Barca didn't want him. We didn't pass on fucking Musiala or Wirtz to sign him.
Also, we all saw Palmer at City. Anyone who says they knew he would have broken out like this for City is full of shit. He was never going to get games at attacking mid.
Transfers haven't killed us. We have a lot of raw young players who haven't rounded out their game yet, a lot of veterans who are aging out and realistically are at the end of the line at City, and a giant fucking list of injuries. The transfer policy hasn't been great the last 2 years, but it hasn't killed us because we arent fucking dead.
No we probably wouldn't have won the league anyway this year, but being 7th in December after 14 straight years of making the Champions League (a streak that NOBODY in the Prem comes close to) has got some of you standing on the ledge looking for anything and everything to pin it on, looking for someone to sell or someone to sack. Its December, there's a lot of football left.
Hanging on to KDB and Walker in retrospect was a bad move - but seriously would you have done differently?