Cavani Speculation/News (page 301 onwards)

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Blue Haze said:
TBH I wouldn't mind Lewandowski at all. Won't be nearly as expensive. He's proven it against the best.

Thought he was off to Bayern, but maybe we can pull a similar thing to when we bought Aguero.


The only thing with Lewandowski is I am sure I read the reason he wants to leave Dortmund is because he wants to play for one of the big clubs.

I think of City as a big club, but we are smaller than Dortmund.

Personally, I think he will hold out on his last year and then go Bayern for free.
 
sam-caddick said:
Blue Haze said:
TBH I wouldn't mind Lewandowski at all. Won't be nearly as expensive. He's proven it against the best.

Thought he was off to Bayern, but maybe we can pull a similar thing to when we bought Aguero.


The only thing with Lewandowski is I am sure I read the reason he wants to leave Dortmund is because he wants to play for one of the big clubs.

I think of City as a big club, but we are smaller than Dortmund.

Personally, I think he will hold out on his last year and then go Bayern for free.

Despite the statement from Bayern today, I'm think he'll go to Munich this window
 
MihaiCity said:
OB1 said:


Well, there's no sign of City doing anything so I suspect we can forget Cavani coming to City.


there is simple some rumours nothing more...we don't know if txiki and soriano are trying to get this sorted in secret(no media) and then just anounce that when he is already done and dusted just like fernandinho we just knew about talks with sakhtar who want only the buy-out clause and then boom he has the medical in the same day when he signed
We had no competition for Fernandinho. Cavani is one of the most sought-after players in Europe.

The fact is the last time we've heard anything concrete concerning Cavani and us was 3 weeks ago when it was reported vaguely by GL DiMarzio that ADL was meeting us in London. Since then it's been all/increasingly Chelsea.
 
sam-caddick said:
Blue Haze said:
TBH I wouldn't mind Lewandowski at all. Won't be nearly as expensive. He's proven it against the best.

Thought he was off to Bayern, but maybe we can pull a similar thing to when we bought Aguero.


The only thing with Lewandowski is I am sure I read the reason he wants to leave Dortmund is because he wants to play for one of the big clubs.

I think of City as a big club, but we are smaller than Dortmund.

Personally, I think he will hold out on his last year and then go Bayern for free.

Let's hope by 'big club', he means big pay packet.

Truthfully after watching both, I see little between them. Maybe Cavani is stronger in the air, but that's it.
 
Ray78 said:
Scottyboi said:
Ray78 said:
It was Begiristain who signed Ibrahimovic for €69.884 million when he was at Barcelona and that didn't turn out in what was expected.

Only because Messi was jealous of Ibra and threatened to leave.

Still sold for a huge loss.

Either that or lose Messi I know what I'd of done.
 
OB1 said:
sam-caddick said:
ancredi Palmeri ‏@tancredipalmeri 13s

There is a growing rumour in the 'backstage' of a consistent Chelsea raise for Cavani. Let's see


Well, there's no sign of City doing anything so I suspect we can forget Cavani coming to City.
Yeap seems that way sadly.
 
pudge said:
The_Mo said:
Blue Haze said:
It's pretty simple, really.


Dzeko at City: 106 games, 40 goals
Cavani at Napoli: 138 games, 104 goals

Dzeko +20m sounds about right to me, maybe a bit low actually. He's only worth what he can do on the pitch.
What are the minutes per goal ratios for both?
Cavani - a goal every 111 minutes
Dzeko - a goal every 155 minutes

Also, given Cavani played more that 2,700 minutes more it makes it even more impressive but no more relevant as johnmc pointed out.

Not until this season have I seen so much importance put on goals per minutes.

Cavani is simply the better player, and that's not a knock on Edin.

I thinks it's because goals per minute is a better way to judge a striker than goals per game (assuming the number of minutes is high enough to be statistically significant - in baseball, they have a minimum number of at-bats before a player's season-long batting average is taken seriously). And goals per game is better than goals scored (again, you have to be sure the number of games is statistically significant).

Clearly even goals per minute is far from perfect since it doesn't take into account any number of other variables like how many chances the striker gets, how good those chances were, whether the opposing goalie made a brilliant save or a terrible error, etc. It's also a bit suspect to compare goal stats (of any kind) for players on different teams; if you're the striker in a formation that plays very directly to one striker, you're likely to score more than a striker in a two-striker attack, where the goals are shared, and the midfield chips in as well.

Same goes for assists; assists per game would be better than just assists, and assists per minute would be best. Even then, 'chances created' would be better still because every assist is reliant on someone else putting it away. Then you have to consider the quality of the assist; you might make a 2 yard pass outside the box that gets hammered in from 25 yards, or you might split the defence with a perfectly weighted pass into the path of a striker for an easy tap in, and both count the same in the 'assists' column.

BTW, since so many English fans get bent out of shape by the use of the 'American' term, 'soccer', why isn't there the same outrage at the fairly recent introduction of the American term 'assist'? No one said 'assist' when I was a kid.
 
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