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Can we move Roberts to Nac Breda or Girona in January ?
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Celtic Thread 2017/18.
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Magicpole
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Well, that was fun.
The only place to start is with the main problem I highlighted before we picked a ball out of the net in this years CL. Our lack of a defence anywhere near solid enough, which includes our keepers.
We knew we had to strengthen at CB and a right back. We went for a young South African who looked like another VVD. At the death he failed a medical and we were stuck with injured CB's and had to play a makeshift set up.
We can and do get away with that up here, but in the CL, the chances of that are zero.
The game itself was strange. My main worry was we wouldn't attack at all, we did and looked OK going forward at times, showing they can be got at and City should have taken cheer from that. If we can cause them problems you certainly will.
The problem we faced is the simple fact that going forward they are top notch. Again, four of the goals were due to poor defending, no matter how well they were taken. Three of the goals you just have to admire as total class football.
There have been a few comments about Roberts not starting. He is just fit from a hamstring injury so would never have started and Forrest had a great game against Bayern. Should he have come on later? I would have put him on, but, I'm not in charge. Armstrong would also have been on, as Nitcham is a dud and gave the ball away all night.
We were ahead and playing well, for 8 minutes and indeed after that we still pressed them well, but after Brown gave the ball away cheaply and bang 1.1 it got rather tetchy.
An additional collection of bad defending in siege conditions, had us 4.1 down at half time and me going from double malts to triples, to assist washing down copious handfuls of valium.
I read a comment that you shouldn't be conceding 7 at this level. But, who apart from a very small group of probably two teams are at PSG level?
We are in a Catch 22 situation. We want to compete but the resources available to us means we cannot do what Pep did, recognising your defence was suspect and go out and buy top drawer players.
There is no doubt in my mind that Rogers and the board fucked up in the summer. Glaring inadequacies in the defence not addressed, aligned to the fact our two best CB's were injured, meaning a weak defence was further diminished.
Our goal was to beat the 3rd Pot team for third and football in Europe after Christmas, generating more money and giving our young team more experience. Our 3.0 away win means we should achieve that.
I'm a kind of optimistic moaning faced **** though. In the cold light of the day after I see last nights sexual assault, a neon sign 100ft high is screaming, Buy Better Defenders You ****s.
If ever confirmation was needed that fucking about is no longer an option then last night was it. This has to provoke action. I think it will.
The Gers loving press up here are loving it, as are out pals across the city, but, they know if PSG can do that to us, with them it would have been a cricket score. They also know that this will result in us buying better players. That should worry them because if we improve in a Eurooean context by being stronger at the back, then it only increases the gap we have at home.
My best pal is from the Dark Side and he texted me last night and after he had taken the **** with a few texts he conceded getting hammered so soundly his worry was. as he put put it. You ****s will now go out and buy better players.
And we will.
There is always a tipping point. Last nights mauling accelerated the urgency, so, although I'm not happy with the result, it's severity could and should provide the impetus for action.
It fucking better.
If we get a few players in January, then a few games in the Europa we will be better prepared for next years battle for 3rd place.
It's a journey we are on. The length of it is dependent upon Rogers seeing the problem and fixing it.
7.1 should be more than enough validation for urgent action. If it is taken, we will look at this game as the day a very large penny dropped.
Football, don't you just love it?
PSG are the team City will need to defeat to win it at one stage or another. Of that I have no doubt.
The only place to start is with the main problem I highlighted before we picked a ball out of the net in this years CL. Our lack of a defence anywhere near solid enough, which includes our keepers.
We knew we had to strengthen at CB and a right back. We went for a young South African who looked like another VVD. At the death he failed a medical and we were stuck with injured CB's and had to play a makeshift set up.
We can and do get away with that up here, but in the CL, the chances of that are zero.
The game itself was strange. My main worry was we wouldn't attack at all, we did and looked OK going forward at times, showing they can be got at and City should have taken cheer from that. If we can cause them problems you certainly will.
The problem we faced is the simple fact that going forward they are top notch. Again, four of the goals were due to poor defending, no matter how well they were taken. Three of the goals you just have to admire as total class football.
There have been a few comments about Roberts not starting. He is just fit from a hamstring injury so would never have started and Forrest had a great game against Bayern. Should he have come on later? I would have put him on, but, I'm not in charge. Armstrong would also have been on, as Nitcham is a dud and gave the ball away all night.
We were ahead and playing well, for 8 minutes and indeed after that we still pressed them well, but after Brown gave the ball away cheaply and bang 1.1 it got rather tetchy.
An additional collection of bad defending in siege conditions, had us 4.1 down at half time and me going from double malts to triples, to assist washing down copious handfuls of valium.
I read a comment that you shouldn't be conceding 7 at this level. But, who apart from a very small group of probably two teams are at PSG level?
We are in a Catch 22 situation. We want to compete but the resources available to us means we cannot do what Pep did, recognising your defence was suspect and go out and buy top drawer players.
There is no doubt in my mind that Rogers and the board fucked up in the summer. Glaring inadequacies in the defence not addressed, aligned to the fact our two best CB's were injured, meaning a weak defence was further diminished.
Our goal was to beat the 3rd Pot team for third and football in Europe after Christmas, generating more money and giving our young team more experience. Our 3.0 away win means we should achieve that.
I'm a kind of optimistic moaning faced **** though. In the cold light of the day after I see last nights sexual assault, a neon sign 100ft high is screaming, Buy Better Defenders You ****s.
If ever confirmation was needed that fucking about is no longer an option then last night was it. This has to provoke action. I think it will.
The Gers loving press up here are loving it, as are out pals across the city, but, they know if PSG can do that to us, with them it would have been a cricket score. They also know that this will result in us buying better players. That should worry them because if we improve in a Eurooean context by being stronger at the back, then it only increases the gap we have at home.
My best pal is from the Dark Side and he texted me last night and after he had taken the **** with a few texts he conceded getting hammered so soundly his worry was. as he put put it. You ****s will now go out and buy better players.
And we will.
There is always a tipping point. Last nights mauling accelerated the urgency, so, although I'm not happy with the result, it's severity could and should provide the impetus for action.
It fucking better.
If we get a few players in January, then a few games in the Europa we will be better prepared for next years battle for 3rd place.
It's a journey we are on. The length of it is dependent upon Rogers seeing the problem and fixing it.
7.1 should be more than enough validation for urgent action. If it is taken, we will look at this game as the day a very large penny dropped.
Football, don't you just love it?
PSG are the team City will need to defeat to win it at one stage or another. Of that I have no doubt.
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Kinkys Left Foot
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Yeah to all of that, but did you get loads of little camera lights on in their end?
Magicpole
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Yeah to all of that, but did you get loads of little camera lights on in their end?
We have an undercover section who deal in covert behind enemy lines mischief.
Kinkys Left Foot
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Well I politely asked the spotty 16 year old, who began waving his camera phone about with some odd foreign language utterances with some strange melody, against you lot last year if he would mind desisting at once and scolded him for a distinct lack of respect whilst being sat in the home end. He disagreed with my suggestion and made several others quite prickly with his actions.
I doubt he'll be doing anything covert in 119 again. Not with that phone anyway. Just sayin.
I doubt he'll be doing anything covert in 119 again. Not with that phone anyway. Just sayin.
jimharri
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Chin up Magic, you won't be the last team to get their arses kicked by PSG this season.
Magicpole
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Well I politely asked the spotty 16 year old, who began waving his camera phone about with some odd foreign language utterances with some strange melody, against you lot last year if he would mind desisting at once and scolded him for a distinct lack of respect whilst being sat in the home end. He disagreed with my suggestion and made several others quite prickly with his actions.
I doubt he'll be doing anything covert in 119 again. Not with that phone anyway. Just sayin.
I hate ****s who go into the opposing end and make an arse of themselves. Pricks to a man.
Magicpole
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Chin up Magic, you won't be the last team to get their arses kicked by PSG this season.
I know jim. They can and will maul teams. Probably not 7 but we are always generous with our defensive fuck ups.
They are too good to give a hand up. As I said though, our goal is always 3rd place just now. This hiding shows everyone at the club we need to buy, so it will actually help us, even if it is an embarrassment.
A bridge too very, very far last night.
You had to admire the fuckers though. They are total class in every position.
this result will all be forgotten when you land yourselves the domestic treble this season mate!! :-)
PSG are some attacking side for sure but i watched them last month draw with marseille and you can definatley get at them if you have the players.
they were very lucky to nick a draw. A better team than marseille would have scored with the numerous counter attacks they had against them. And the keeper should have saved Cavani's last minute free kick.
I would honestly fancy our chances against them.
PSG are some attacking side for sure but i watched them last month draw with marseille and you can definatley get at them if you have the players.
they were very lucky to nick a draw. A better team than marseille would have scored with the numerous counter attacks they had against them. And the keeper should have saved Cavani's last minute free kick.
I would honestly fancy our chances against them.
Magicpole
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this result will all be forgotten when you land yourselves the domestic treble this season mate!! :-)
PSG are some attacking side for sure but i watched them last month draw with marseille and you can definatley get at them if you have the players.
they were very lucky to nick a draw. A better team than marseille would have scored with the numerous counter attacks they had against them. And the keeper should have saved Cavani's last minute free kick.
I would honestly fancy our chances against them.
There is no doubt this will be some game if it happens. If I were you I would fancy my chances, but I would also be under no illusions that they could kick your arse too.
They are special but you're right, they can be got at. The problem is they can get you too.
We will hopefully be in the Europa and the extra cash from that will help us get better players as well as extra euro experience for the players. We are the 4th pot team with a 3.0 win away at Anderlect, we knew we would get fuck all from the big two, and possibly a couple of right tankings. We take that because the cash allows us to improve. Not as fast as richer clubs but that's something we can't change.
City v PSG final would be brilliant for football people who love teams that attack with class.
You will be a nervous fucking wreck though, brilliant though.