Centre back options

Could the 'complex deal' involve a player or players going the other way ?
A swap with Kolarov would be the dream but suspect Otamendi would be more likely. I'd be delighted with either of them to clear off if it meant getting a proper centre back in. Have you seen much of De Vrij and if so what do you make of him? He's at Lazio and Kolarov has been banging on about wanting to return there.
 
This is all Goal's doing. Are they just saying this because they know it will create a buzz and we'll follow them, or do you think they know it's true.
Spot on, Idk how can anyone take such 'news' seriously.
if we buy a central defender it can't be one for the future, it has to be a player who can come in straight away and have the authority to lead City's back line. Doesn't matter to me whether he's 30 plus because Stones is going to get better. he just needs to develop alongside Kompany or someone else
How can you be so confident in Stones? He'll get better, but when? And to what extent? He's a terrible 1-on-1 defender, not sure if that can be fixed. And should we just let him learn, ruining our title chances? I'd like to see a rising star like Laporte or Ajax CBs, not another temporary repair. Oh, that would harm Stones? Who cares? Let the strongest survive.
 
Spot on, Idk how can anyone take such 'news' seriously.

How can you be so confident in Stones? He'll get better, but when? And to what extent? He's a terrible 1-on-1 defender, not sure if that can be fixed. And should we just let him learn, ruining our title chances? I'd like to see a rising star like Laporte or Ajax CBs, not another temporary repair. Oh, that would harm Stones? Who cares? Let the strongest survive.

Fuck me you're incredibly naive if you think de Ligt and Davinson doesn't make mistakes consistently either.
 
Fuck me you're incredibly naive if you think de Ligt and Davinson doesn't make mistakes consistently either.
Definitely less than one of the most error-prone defenders in PL. While youth is prone to errors by definition, it's difficult to doubt worldclass potential of Ajax pair. I would be amazed to see Stones in the same bracket with them in 5 years.
Another problem is that young stars are poached by top clubs very early, it could be too late by the time we finally realise that Stones isn't a new Pique.

Edit: I'm not against errors per se, but the coach should have all tools to punish players for complacency - for example, replacing them with a better competitor. Stones and Ota had a free ride this season in the absence of alternatives.
 
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A swap with Kolarov would be the dream but suspect Otamendi would be more likely. I'd be delighted with either of them to clear off if it meant getting a proper centre back in. Have you seen much of De Vrij and if so what do you make of him? He's at Lazio and Kolarov has been banging on about wanting to return there.

I've never studied him but never seen anything which leaps out at me.

I never really trust defenders from Italy to be a good as they may appear anyhow.

One of the reasons Bob gave for signing Kolarov, was his pace.

Edit: Now I know, saw him loads for Feyenoord, didn't like.
 
Definitely less than one of the most error-prone defenders in PL. While youth is prone to errors by definition, it's difficult to doubt worldclass potential of Ajax pair. I would be amazed to see Stones in the same bracket with them in 5 years.
Another problem is that young stars are poached by top clubs very early, it could be too late by the time we finally realise that Stones isn't a new Pique.

Edit: I'm not against errors per se, but the coach should have all tools to punish players for complacency - for example, replacing them with a better competitor. Stones and Ota had a free ride this season in the absence of alternatives.

Sanchez is incredibly error prone he switches off 2 to 3 times per game like Mangala did.

De Ligt is less error prone but he fucks up in the exact same way as Stones because they play the exact same game.
 

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