Centre-back

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Toby would expect to play regularly and he isn't better than Vinnie or Nastasic. Demichelis has CL and World Cup experience, has played under Pelle at Malaga and is 32 so can be reasoned to to sit on the bench for a few games, but come in in key CL games or even sit in as a DM which he's done before in big away games to shore up the midfield.

Bang on, although Mr Toby's class.

not disagreeing but Vinnie and Nasty will become the best CB partnership in Europe in a couple of years imo.

To be honest, i'm getting really worried about Kompany's injuries. This injury is starting to crop up a bit too regularly now.

 

[Big Dave Watson]

Bang on, although Mr Toby's class.

not disagreeing but Vinnie and Nasty will become the best CB partnership in Europe in a couple of years imo.

To be honest, i'm getting really worried about Kompany's injuries. This injury is starting to crop up a bit too regularly now.

I think he missed quite a bit of time with his previous clubs too.

 

[jonmcity]

What is for sure is that we need another top notch central defender, to cover injuries and for rotation.

 

[BlueCityfan]

Bang on, although Mr Toby's class.

not disagreeing but Vinnie and Nasty will become the best CB partnership in Europe in a couple of years imo.

To be honest, i'm getting really worried about Kompany's injuries. This injury is starting to crop up a bit too regularly now.

Which is why i think we could do with another top CB. Even someone who wants regular game time. Toby would get a lot of games IMO. Demichelis is almost 33, not sure his fitness would be up for it if Vinny continues to be out for long periods. Don't understand why the defender would necessarily have to be 30+ years old. A top defender in his mid twenties would be perfectly fine.

Our central defence (which is one of the most important positions in the team), is so thin compared to United for example. Even smaller when you consider that our 3rd choice (Lescott) and second choice (Nastasic) can't even play together.

 

[jonmcity]

not disagreeing but Vinnie and Nasty will become the best CB partnership in Europe in a couple of years imo.

To be honest, i'm getting really worried about Kompany's injuries. This injury is starting to crop up a bit too regularly now.

Which is why i think we could do with another top CB. Toby would get a lot of games IMO. Demichelis is almost 33, not sure his fitness would be up for it if Vinny continues to be out for long periods Don't understand why the defender would necessarily have to be 30+ years old. A top defender in his mid twenties would be perfectly fine.

I have to agree, we should be looking at the next generation. Being understudy to Kompany would be no bad thing and they would get game time.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

To be honest, i'm getting really worried about Kompany's injuries. This injury is starting to crop up a bit too regularly now.

Which is why i think we could do with another top CB. Toby would get a lot of games IMO. Demichelis is almost 33, not sure his fitness would be up for it if Vinny continues to be out for long periods Don't understand why the defender would necessarily have to be 30+ years old. A top defender in his mid twenties would be perfectly fine.

I have to agree, we should be looking at the next generation. Being understudy to Kompany would be no bad thing and they would get game time.

they wouldn't get played if Vinnie's fit, that's the problem. If Vinnie stays fit then he plays every game, so it needs someone with ability who's patient to be prepared to sit out most games for the hope of a month in the team. You limit your pool of targets with that requirement.

 

[BlueCityfan]

Which is why i think we could do with another top CB. Toby would get a lot of games IMO. Demichelis is almost 33, not sure his fitness would be up for it if Vinny continues to be out for long periods Don't understand why the defender would necessarily have to be 30+ years old. A top defender in his mid twenties would be perfectly fine.

I have to agree, we should be looking at the next generation. Being understudy to Kompany would be no bad thing and they would get game time.

they wouldn't get played if Vinnie's fit, that's the problem. If Vinnie stays fit then he plays every game, so it needs someone with ability who's patient to be prepared to sit out most games for the hope of a month in the team. You limit your pool of targets with that requirement.

I'll put this again:

Our central defence (which is one of the most important positions in the team), is so thin compared to United for example. Even smaller when you consider that our 3rd choice (Lescott) and second choice (Nastasic) can't even play together.

Agree that Vinny plays when he is fit. But we can't count on that he is. + Whoever comes in, should not only be able to replace Vinny, but also play with him. Other teams with better defensive depth manage to keep them happy. We need defenders who are capable of playing with each other...(see above). Which is one of the reasons i think Lescott will go next summer.

 

[tiggsywiggsywoo]

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Matija Nastasić Ankle 25th August 2013
Vincent Kompany Groin 31st August 2013
Micah Richards Hamstring No return date
Stevan Jovetić Knock 25th August 2013

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

I have to agree, we should be looking at the next generation. Being understudy to Kompany would be no bad thing and they would get game time.

they wouldn't get played if Vinnie's fit, that's the problem. If Vinnie stays fit then he plays every game, so it needs someone with ability who's patient to be prepared to sit out most games for the hope of a month in the team. You limit your pool of targets with that requirement.

I'll put this again:

Our central defence (which is one of the most important positions in the team), is so thin compared to United for example. Even smaller when you consider that our 3rd choice (Lescott) and second choice (Nastasic) can't even play together.

Agree that Vinny plays when he is fit. But we can't count on that he is. + Whoever comes in, should not only be able to replace Vinny, but also play with him. Other teams with better defensive depth manage to keep them happy. We need defenders who are capable of playing with each other...(see above). Which is one of the reasons i think Lescott will go next summer.

Yeah but you can't predict when Vinnie will be out, which is why a young international like Toby would be reluctant to come here. At United Jones has to play wherever he can fit in and rarely at CB and Smalling more often than not at RB, so it's not the same as us who have 2 full backs and a full quota of midfielders.

Lescott doesn't match our blue print for CB so will go but I think the club will hope Rekik will step up. The club wanted Pepe but the injury to Varane put pay to that I think, Demichelis suits us for a lot of reasons and it may only be a 1 year or 2 year deal, but it suits till we find a CB or a target comes available that we're prepared to put a 4/5 year investment in. Perhaps we just need that one good CL run that the experience of Demichelis can contribute to to be able to convince a top target to come in, I don't know but I do think Demichelis makes sense for this season.

 

[kaz7]

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Matija Nastasić Ankle 25th August 2013
Vincent Kompany Groin 31st August 2013
Micah Richards Hamstring No return date
Stevan Jovetić Knock 25th August 2013

If vinnie is that near then i bet belgium call him up for their w/c qualifier,hope we say no

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

posted off main site

Matija Nastasić Ankle 25th August 2013
Vincent Kompany Groin 31st August 2013
Micah Richards Hamstring No return date
Stevan Jovetić Knock 25th August 2013

If vinnie is that near then i bet belgium call him up for their w/c qualifier,hope we say no

Do we have the right to say no? Won't his contract give Belgium the right to decide if he's fit or not?

 

[kaz7]

posted off main site

Matija Nastasić Ankle 25th August 2013
Vincent Kompany Groin 31st August 2013
Micah Richards Hamstring No return date
Stevan Jovetić Knock 25th August 2013

If vinnie is that near then i bet belgium call him up for their w/c qualifier,hope we say no

Do we have the right to say no? Won't his contract give Belgium the right to decide if he's fit or not?

Not sure if we can actually stop him going to be looked at but we can try to persuade them,i hope

 

[TheSoulhunter]

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This site says:

V Kompany Groin/Pelvis Injury 22nd Sep 13
S Jovetic Knock no return date
M Richards Hamstring Injury 31st Aug 13

 

[FredTilson]

But some would argue that he is better than Demichelis. And certainly is better value. Why not go for Toby?

I think experience is something that has been specifically targeted by City for whichever defender we'll sign. Nearly every target is 27+ including our #1 target Pepe. And it was clear yesterday leadership is a trait sorely lacking in our defence when Kompany is injured (and he gets injured a hell of a lot). Lescott at his age should have far better organisational and leadership skills but is just a follower who looks half the player without Vinny by his side.

I understand. But Demichelis is almost 33. More experienced yes but could be risky. It's not like that Ajax defender lacks experience. CL experience and 100+ game with Ajax, 20+ caps with Belgium too so should know Vinny as well. Just saying that he wouldn't necessary be a worse option short term. But would certainly be better long term.

Also can play as a right back and is good at free kicks and headers (scoring from corners). Considering how frequently Richards is injured, he could be the perfect player to cover for both vinnie and Richards. This way he will get sufficient game time as well.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

We are far too reliant on VK, even more so now that Kolo has gone. The issue for me is that we need to bring in a centre back who has the experience to properly organise those around him and one who has really decent pace (especially with Pellegrini's defensive tactics) because as we have seen as soon as VK is out we are severely lacking in these two attributes at the back. But then buying a good defender who is quick and a leader of men is going to be seriously tough at this stage and if we get one, he won't be coming just as back up. Is Demichelis quick? I'm guessing not at 33 but then I can't say I know.

 

[bluebreeze]

Anyone know about this guy?

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.sportsdirectnews.com/premier-league/30967-mcfc-transfers-city-weigh-up-rami-bid.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.sportsdirectnews.com/premier ... mi-bid.php</a><br /><br />-- Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:13 am --<br /><br />Anyone know about this guy?

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[Matt the Giant]

Anyone know about this guy?

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.sportsdirectnews.com/premier-league/30967-mcfc-transfers-city-weigh-up-rami-bid.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.sportsdirectnews.com/premier ... mi-bid.php</a>

-- Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:13 am --

Anyone know about this guy?

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He (Adil Rami) has been mentioned a few tiems on this thread and some here rate him. I haven't seen more tha na few appearances from him so am i no position to judge his quality.

I did watch Diego Godin a bit more often last season though, and if he was available I'd say we should definitely go for him. Though I doubt Atl. Madrid would consider selling him.

 

[weare8kyk]

Burma, he looks decent along side Rekik. He plays the way VC plays. still 22, worth a shot?

 

[Sam W]

Burma, he looks decent along side Rekik. He plays the way VC plays. still 22, worth a shot?

I think it would be a mission to get him.

 

[Alex B]

We need someone for one season basically. Rekik will be ready next season, and we cant have someone who will slow down Nastis progression.