Cesc Fabregas signs for Chelsea (page 190)

Re: Cesc Fabregas

JoeMercer'sWay said:
Chelsea will be strong next year, we'll have to raise our game to retain our title.

However I believe that we had our transfer plans and that they aren't affected by FFPR so to me if we don't sign Cesc that we've decided against it.

We'll see how Chelsea get on next season.

They should be excellent. But I'm also optimistic about us.

We'll strengthen our defence if we get that one top centre half (far more important than signing Fabregas!) as well as Sagna.

We'll strengthen our midfield with Fernando, allowing us the option of Yaya/Fernando/Fernandinho, potentially the most physical central midfield in Europe and great for big games.

The rest for me comes down to our medical team. I don't know if it's being looked into, but keep Aguero, Silva and Jovetic fit more and our attacking options could be even scarier than before. Plus we may have the wildcard of Lopes to add something to the left side if he's really being promoted.
 
Re: Cesc Fabregas

pudge & rodge said:
What other option would Fabregas have given us that Nasri/Silva/Jovetic can't? Or even Yaya, as he hasn't fucked off yet..

Also, what's with the sudden obsession to follow the Madrid model of signing a big name player as a 'gift' for the fans?

Another incredibly skilful player who offers more goals than any of those you mention, with bags of experience and a bit of that nasty bastard refuse to lose personality that I believe we've lacked for a long time. He'd have let us rest Silva a bit more and of course no-one can predict what injuries we could get over a 60-odd game season.

Personally I love big name signings and given our owner has more money than god I would love to see us make one every year. Also it makes sense as not only does it give everyone a massive lift it also increases our world profile and sponsorship, etc.

We really should just adopt the PSG/Chelsea model and tell Platini to go fuck himself, threaten him and his whole corrupt bunch of cronies with the best legal team money can buy. Also we should challenge that given the TV exposure and popularity of the Premier League and its world fan base being a huge cash cow for UEFA whether he'd dare exclude the English champions from the CL. We really should grow a pair and do this and fuck this FFP bullshit off for good.
 
Re: Cesc Fabregas

BillyShears said:
The Fat el Hombre said:
BillyShears said:
Not that I want to question how "reputable" these Spanish sources are ... but they also said Thiago was going to United. Then that Fabregas was going to United.

This is the Red Herring of the summer. Fabregas to Chelsea is about as likely as Reus to United.

Big call mate what makes you say that?

Two immediate things. One ... Oscar. The way Mourinho wants to play there can only be one playmaker. And he sold Mata because it was apparently Oscar. So if he's now decided it isn't Oscar either then he'll need to explain that to the player (who will start for Brazil in the WC), and to Roman and the staff at Chelsea. He'll then need to sell Oscar before the season starts, at a loss, because by replacing him before selling him he opens himself up to clubs taking the piss and the player agitating for a move. Secondly because for that move to happen then Darren Dein and Fabregas would have to be demanding the kind of figures which Arsenal, City, and even United aren't prepared to pay. Which isn't happening.

Of course ... I could be wholly wrong. However I tend to not go balls out on transfer stories because I understand how volatile these situations are. But with this particular one, I'll take the risk! :)

Don't think it will affect Oscar; this is the team Chelsea will play:

Courtois

Azpilicueta Cahill Terry Luis

Fabregas Matic

Willian Oscar Hazard

Costa​

Oscar drops back and makes a midfield three a lot of the time and is very versatile. Mata couldn't hold a role in a midfield three as he isn't dynamic enough; Fabregas at Arsenal played in the two behind the four forwards for 75% of his career. They'll play together.
 
Re: Cesc Fabregas

laeth said:
BillyShears said:
The Fat el Hombre said:
Big call mate what makes you say that?

Two immediate things. One ... Oscar. The way Mourinho wants to play there can only be one playmaker. And he sold Mata because it was apparently Oscar. So if he's now decided it isn't Oscar either then he'll need to explain that to the player (who will start for Brazil in the WC), and to Roman and the staff at Chelsea. He'll then need to sell Oscar before the season starts, at a loss, because by replacing him before selling him he opens himself up to clubs taking the piss and the player agitating for a move. Secondly because for that move to happen then Darren Dein and Fabregas would have to be demanding the kind of figures which Arsenal, City, and even United aren't prepared to pay. Which isn't happening.

Of course ... I could be wholly wrong. However I tend to not go balls out on transfer stories because I understand how volatile these situations are. But with this particular one, I'll take the risk! :)

Don't think it will affect Oscar; this is the team Chelsea will play:

Courtois

Azpilicueta Cahill Terry Luis

Fabregas Matic

Willian Oscar Hazard

Costa​

Oscar drops back and makes a midfield three a lot of the time and is very versatile. Mata couldn't hold a role in a midfield three as he isn't dynamic enough; Fabregas at Arsenal played in the two behind the four forwards for 75% of his career. They'll play together.

I agree fella, that's what I was going to post. Although I would say it's feasible that Mourinho could play just matic holding with Fabrgas and Oscar in front, Willian and Hazard out wide and Costa up top - more like the Barca formation.
 
Re: Cesc Fabregas

laeth said:
BillyShears said:
The Fat el Hombre said:
Big call mate what makes you say that?

Two immediate things. One ... Oscar. The way Mourinho wants to play there can only be one playmaker. And he sold Mata because it was apparently Oscar. So if he's now decided it isn't Oscar either then he'll need to explain that to the player (who will start for Brazil in the WC), and to Roman and the staff at Chelsea. He'll then need to sell Oscar before the season starts, at a loss, because by replacing him before selling him he opens himself up to clubs taking the piss and the player agitating for a move. Secondly because for that move to happen then Darren Dein and Fabregas would have to be demanding the kind of figures which Arsenal, City, and even United aren't prepared to pay. Which isn't happening.

Of course ... I could be wholly wrong. However I tend to not go balls out on transfer stories because I understand how volatile these situations are. But with this particular one, I'll take the risk! :)

Don't think it will affect Oscar; this is the team Chelsea will play:

Courtois

Azpilicueta Cahill Terry Luis

Fabregas Matic

Willian Oscar Hazard

Costa​

Oscar drops back and makes a midfield three a lot of the time and is very versatile. Mata couldn't hold a role in a midfield three as he isn't dynamic enough; Fabregas at Arsenal played in the two behind the four forwards for 75% of his career. They'll play together.

So you think Mourinho will play both Oscar and Fabregas in a midfield three ?

Ok. I disagree. Strongly. Time will tell.
 
Re: Cesc Fabregas

BillyShears said:
So you think Mourinho will play both Oscar and Fabregas in a midfield three ?

Ok. I disagree. Strongly. Time will tell.

Oscar fell out of favour a bit at the end of the season. I could easily see Fabregas in there with Ramires when necessary with the more adventurous side picked for certain games. I know it's not generally Mourinho's style but it's possible he could go a bit more bold.
 
Re: Cesc Fabregas

BillyShears said:
laeth said:
BillyShears said:
Two immediate things. One ... Oscar. The way Mourinho wants to play there can only be one playmaker. And he sold Mata because it was apparently Oscar. So if he's now decided it isn't Oscar either then he'll need to explain that to the player (who will start for Brazil in the WC), and to Roman and the staff at Chelsea. He'll then need to sell Oscar before the season starts, at a loss, because by replacing him before selling him he opens himself up to clubs taking the piss and the player agitating for a move. Secondly because for that move to happen then Darren Dein and Fabregas would have to be demanding the kind of figures which Arsenal, City, and even United aren't prepared to pay. Which isn't happening.

Of course ... I could be wholly wrong. However I tend to not go balls out on transfer stories because I understand how volatile these situations are. But with this particular one, I'll take the risk! :)

Don't think it will affect Oscar; this is the team Chelsea will play:

Courtois

Azpilicueta Cahill Terry Luis

Fabregas Matic

Willian Oscar Hazard

Costa​

Oscar drops back and makes a midfield three a lot of the time and is very versatile. Mata couldn't hold a role in a midfield three as he isn't dynamic enough; Fabregas at Arsenal played in the two behind the four forwards for 75% of his career. They'll play together.

So you think Mourinho will play both Oscar and Fabregas in a midfield three ?

Ok. I disagree. Strongly. Time will tell.

Yup, Oscar will assist in covering any lack of pressing from Fabregas. He is a machine. Chelsea struggle to break teams down; they desperately need someone to help move the ball forward with accurate passes to the front three / four.
 
Re: Cesc Fabregas

laeth said:
BillyShears said:
The Fat el Hombre said:
Big call mate what makes you say that?

Two immediate things. One ... Oscar. The way Mourinho wants to play there can only be one playmaker. And he sold Mata because it was apparently Oscar. So if he's now decided it isn't Oscar either then he'll need to explain that to the player (who will start for Brazil in the WC), and to Roman and the staff at Chelsea. He'll then need to sell Oscar before the season starts, at a loss, because by replacing him before selling him he opens himself up to clubs taking the piss and the player agitating for a move. Secondly because for that move to happen then Darren Dein and Fabregas would have to be demanding the kind of figures which Arsenal, City, and even United aren't prepared to pay. Which isn't happening.

Of course ... I could be wholly wrong. However I tend to not go balls out on transfer stories because I understand how volatile these situations are. But with this particular one, I'll take the risk! :)

Don't think it will affect Oscar; this is the team Chelsea will play:

Courtois

Azpilicueta Cahill Terry Luis

Fabregas Matic

Willian Oscar Hazard

Costa​

Oscar drops back and makes a midfield three a lot of the time and is very versatile. Mata couldn't hold a role in a midfield three as he isn't dynamic enough; Fabregas at Arsenal played in the two behind the four forwards for 75% of his career. They'll play together.

I'll guarantee that chelsea don't start with that line up once next season.
 
Re: Cesc Fabregas

Seems a bit attacking for maureen that, unless he's decided he wants to play a bit of football next season
 
Re: Cesc Fabregas

Rammy Blue said:
BillyShears said:
So you think Mourinho will play both Oscar and Fabregas in a midfield three ?

Ok. I disagree. Strongly. Time will tell.

Oscar fell out of favour a bit at the end of the season. I could easily see Fabregas in there with Ramires when necessary with the more adventurous side picked for certain games. I know it's not generally Mourinho's style but it's possible he could go a bit more bold.


you would think he has deffo signed for chelsea just sit tight and see what happens.
 

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