Cesc Fabregas signs for Chelsea (page 190)

[Lancet Fluke]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

There are plenty of politics in play.

Chelsea know City want Fabregas, they are playing games on a number of levels.

It is also linked into Mangala and Benatia, other targets Chelsea feel they can do with or without.

Chelsea want to force City into spending big and before we are ready.

Mourinho is quite happy to wait to sign Fabregas.

Paris and Chelsea are in cahoots, they did the Luiz deal at the level they did, because PSG quickly wanted to force the issue on Yaya.

Sneaky bastards.

If this is the case Tolm, why don't we just call their bluff? Let Chelsea sign Fabregas, Costa and Mangala, that's the best part of £100 million spent. Surely that would be them spent for the summer.

I believe Fabregas and Mangala are non essential targets for us, let them play games, if they are doing it just to piss us off then they are going to wind up the clubs, players and agents and make things harder for themselves in future.

Like many things, when told in conversation, you nod your head and believe you have got a handle on it.

Trying to articulate the various intentions on this board, even I am reading it back, wondering, 'Does it compute for fellow blues, outside my own mind?'

Chelsea want us to call bluffs, they want us to believe that they can outbid us in any auction, because they have that Luiz money, being waved around like a big dick. Paris were more than happy to accommodate as they wanted, Luiz, anyhow, and they want Yaya.

Mangala was certainly an essential target for us, and Fabregas is our iron in the fire, more so, because of the ongoing unease surrounding Yaya.

If PSG and Chelsea are in cahoots and trying to make life awkward for us then that's not good but I can't help but feel a large part of our problems at the moment have been caused by Yaya kicking off so publicly and then seemingly refusing to allow it to be sorted until after the world cup. That leaves us in limbo in terms of knowing who we need to target and that makes us massively ripe for PSG and Chelsea to take the piss regarding Fabregas/Yaya.

 

[jimbopm]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

If this is the case Tolm, why don't we just call their bluff? Let Chelsea sign Fabregas, Costa and Mangala, that's the best part of £100 million spent. Surely that would be them spent for the summer.

I believe Fabregas and Mangala are non essential targets for us, let them play games, if they are doing it just to piss us off then they are going to wind up the clubs, players and agents and make things harder for themselves in future.

Like many things, when told in conversation, you nod your head and believe you have got a handle on it.

Trying to articulate the various intentions on this board, even I am reading it back, wondering, 'Does it compute for fellow blues, outside my own mind?'

Chelsea want us to call bluffs, they want us to believe that they can outbid us in any auction, because they have that Luiz money, being waved around like a big dick. Paris were more than happy to accommodate as they wanted, Luiz, anyhow, and they want Yaya.

Mangala was certainly an essential target for us, and Fabregas is our iron in the fire, more so, because of the ongoing unease surrounding Yaya.

If PSG and Chelsea are in cahoots and trying to make life awkward for us then that's not good but I can't help but feel a large part of our problems at the moment have been caused by Yaya kicking off so publicly and then seemingly refusing to allow it to be sorted until after the world cup. That leaves us in limbo in terms of knowing who we need to target and that makes us massively ripe for PSG and Chelsea to take the piss regarding Fabregas/Yaya.

Seluk has obviously had PSG on the phone, telling him how much they would be prepared to pay Yaya (and him by consequence). They then went and found the most petty reason they could for Yaya to be upset and used that as a catalyst to try and get City to respond with a better offer. Obviously City weren't going to offer yet another new contract to Yaya and hence the stand off.

 

[JamesMCFC]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

Chelsea rent boy bastards

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtDT0qkPv5U[/video]

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

If this is the case Tolm, why don't we just call their bluff? Let Chelsea sign Fabregas, Costa and Mangala, that's the best part of £100 million spent. Surely that would be them spent for the summer.

I believe Fabregas and Mangala are non essential targets for us, let them play games, if they are doing it just to piss us off then they are going to wind up the clubs, players and agents and make things harder for themselves in future.

Like many things, when told in conversation, you nod your head and believe you have got a handle on it.

Trying to articulate the various intentions on this board, even I am reading it back, wondering, 'Does it compute for fellow blues, outside my own mind?'

Chelsea want us to call bluffs, they want us to believe that they can outbid us in any auction, because they have that Luiz money, being waved around like a big dick. Paris were more than happy to accommodate as they wanted, Luiz, anyhow, and they want Yaya.

Mangala was certainly an essential target for us, and Fabregas is our iron in the fire, more so, because of the ongoing unease surrounding Yaya.

Call me daft but I don't understand why there should be such unease re the Yaya situation.

Let's say Yaya does indeed want to leave and has made that clear to the board. If i was Ferran Soriano I would say:

"Fair enough but we will not sell you unless a bid of £50 million comes in, not a penny less. Unless those conditions are met you're going nowhere, you've got 4 years left on a contract you wanted to sign a year ago".

We then either a) reach a deal with a club and have money to spend (Pogba or Vidal for me not Fabregas) b) he backs down and carries on for City or c) he continues to throw a wobbler and we stick him in the reserves.

Nice in theory, but City don't want to sell Yaya.

You don't pay someone of 31 £200k a week and stick him in the reserves. He has three years remaining.

And certainly to someone who has an agent who would have us in the papers every day.

A pissed-off Yaya, inside our dressing room, would be a very bad thing for our team on the pitch.

He is a very forceful character.

City have to be prudent and keeping a watching brief on Fabregas makes plenty of sense at this stage.

I suspect Yaya will announce it was all a huge misunderstanding, but we'll see.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

If this is the case Tolm, why don't we just call their bluff? Let Chelsea sign Fabregas, Costa and Mangala, that's the best part of £100 million spent. Surely that would be them spent for the summer.

I believe Fabregas and Mangala are non essential targets for us, let them play games, if they are doing it just to piss us off then they are going to wind up the clubs, players and agents and make things harder for themselves in future.

Like many things, when told in conversation, you nod your head and believe you have got a handle on it.

Trying to articulate the various intentions on this board, even I am reading it back, wondering, 'Does it compute for fellow blues, outside my own mind?'

Chelsea want us to call bluffs, they want us to believe that they can outbid us in any auction, because they have that Luiz money, being waved around like a big dick. Paris were more than happy to accommodate as they wanted, Luiz, anyhow, and they want Yaya.

Mangala was certainly an essential target for us, and Fabregas is our iron in the fire, more so, because of the ongoing unease surrounding Yaya.

If PSG and Chelsea are in cahoots and trying to make life awkward for us then that's not good but I can't help but feel a large part of our problems at the moment have been caused by Yaya kicking off so publicly and then seemingly refusing to allow it to be sorted until after the world cup. That leaves us in limbo in terms of knowing who we need to target and that makes us massively ripe for PSG and Chelsea to take the piss regarding Fabregas/Yaya.

Nail. Head.

You win Bully's special prize, mate!

Let's hope City aren't looking back at the end of this window being told 'Look what you could have won!'

We will all feel a little better when Sagna and Fernando are announced. Two great signings and showing clever insight into the shortcoming in the squad.

 

[Nixon_The_Bike_Thief]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

Tolmie, slightly off topic but as I saw you were in here posting, have you heard anything around our intentions for Rekik this season or are we still at the stage of reviewing our openings for the likes of Lopez, Rekik, Hughes and Facey once we have concluded dealings post WC ?

 

[dancity19]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

Like many things, when told in conversation, you nod your head and believe you have got a handle on it.

Trying to articulate the various intentions on this board, even I am reading it back, wondering, 'Does it compute for fellow blues, outside my own mind?'

Chelsea want us to call bluffs, they want us to believe that they can outbid us in any auction, because they have that Luiz money, being waved around like a big dick. Paris were more than happy to accommodate as they wanted, Luiz, anyhow, and they want Yaya.

Mangala was certainly an essential target for us, and Fabregas is our iron in the fire, more so, because of the ongoing unease surrounding Yaya.

Call me daft but I don't understand why there should be such unease re the Yaya situation.

Let's say Yaya does indeed want to leave and has made that clear to the board. If i was Ferran Soriano I would say:

"Fair enough but we will not sell you unless a bid of £50 million comes in, not a penny less. Unless those conditions are met you're going nowhere, you've got 4 years left on a contract you wanted to sign a year ago".

We then either a) reach a deal with a club and have money to spend (Pogba or Vidal for me not Fabregas) b) he backs down and carries on for City or c) he continues to throw a wobbler and we stick him in the reserves.

Nice in theory, but City don't want to sell Yaya.

You don't pay someone of 31 £200k a week and stick him in the reserves. He has three years remaining.

And certainly to someone who has an agent who would have us in the papers every day.

A pissed-off Yaya, inside our dressing room, would be a very bad thing for our team on the pitch.

He is a very forceful character.

City have to be prudent and keeping a watching brief on Fabregas makes plenty of sense at this stage.

I suspect Yaya will announce it was all a huge misunderstanding, but we'll see.

The misunderstanding is likely to be a cover up, obviously.

As you say, we don't want a pissed off Yaya in the dressing room.

I would of course like him to stay for his ability, but if he is going to cause issues/not play to the best of his ability, then we should sell. In fact, there are compelling arguments to sell anyway. After his best season we will never get more for him- though the outburst will have dampened this.
But, in light of FFP, would it not be better to let a high earning, unhappy player go? Of course, I wouldn't be saying this was it not for his outburst...

It's a decision that needs to be made by those who know the situation, and how much we could reasonably get for him.

 

[adrianr]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

We're not over that much of a barrel either. The squad + Sagna and Fernando could easily go and win the league again next season, and make a bigger dent in the CL.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

Tolmie, slightly off topic but as I saw you were in here posting, have you heard anything around our intentions for Rekik this season or are we still at the stage of reviewing our openings for the likes of Lopez, Rekik, Hughes and Facey once we have concluded dealings post WC ?

Not a Scooby, bud.

Rekik has made it clear he is not bothered about coming back if we don't have a slot for him.

 

[blueinsa]

Re: Cesc Fabregas

Like many things, when told in conversation, you nod your head and believe you have got a handle on it.

Trying to articulate the various intentions on this board, even I am reading it back, wondering, 'Does it compute for fellow blues, outside my own mind?'

Chelsea want us to call bluffs, they want us to believe that they can outbid us in any auction, because they have that Luiz money, being waved around like a big dick. Paris were more than happy to accommodate as they wanted, Luiz, anyhow, and they want Yaya.

Mangala was certainly an essential target for us, and Fabregas is our iron in the fire, more so, because of the ongoing unease surrounding Yaya.

Call me daft but I don't understand why there should be such unease re the Yaya situation.

Let's say Yaya does indeed want to leave and has made that clear to the board. If i was Ferran Soriano I would say:

"Fair enough but we will not sell you unless a bid of £50 million comes in, not a penny less. Unless those conditions are met you're going nowhere, you've got 4 years left on a contract you wanted to sign a year ago".

We then either a) reach a deal with a club and have money to spend (Pogba or Vidal for me not Fabregas) b) he backs down and carries on for City or c) he continues to throw a wobbler and we stick him in the reserves.

Nice in theory, but City don't want to sell Yaya.

You don't pay someone of 31 £200k a week and stick him in the reserves. He has three years remaining.

And certainly to someone who has an agent who would have us in the papers every day.

A pissed-off Yaya, inside our dressing room, would be a very bad thing for our team on the pitch.

He is a very forceful character.

City have to be prudent and keeping a watching brief on Fabregas makes plenty of sense at this stage.

I suspect Yaya will announce it was all a huge misunderstanding, but we'll see.

We might not want to sell him but its the right decision given his age, his value, our predicament this summer and the fact that both Chelsea and PSG seemingly want to play games.

Do the deal now, £50M to PSG and we spend the cash and move on.

Fuck Yaya, fuck PSG, fuck Chelsea and fuck UEFA