Cesc Fabregas signs for Chelsea (page 190)

Re: Cesc Fabregas

pudge & rodge said:
NipHolmes said:
oakiecokie said:
Fucking spot on !! It aint bastard FIFA games.

Who said it was?

Signing Fabregas is common sense, not a luxury. He's a top quality player.

You called people spoilt Bastards for not wanting Sinclair, Rodwell and Maicon tbh. That wasn't spoit, I said and I quote Sinclair is average, Rodwell perma crock and Maicon on the slide. Proven correct on all accounts. Many were called brats and jonny come latelys etc, fucking pathetic.

The reason people want Fabregas is because he's a top player. He's available for decent money, homegrown, proven in the league, fits style of play and knows many of our first team. It's a great transfer. Fuck all Fifa about it.
How is it?

Our priorities this summer are;

A center half, a right back, a defensive midfielder and a goalkeeper. Forking out £30m of a £49m budget on an attacking minded midfielder would be the definition of a luxury signing and make little to fuck all sense.

Never mind the fact we already have Nasri, Silva, Jovetic, Fernandinho, Yaya...

I`m certain NipHolmes is that idiot from OT Mr Flying Pig,who has his own YouTube weekly video rant at things going on at the swamp.
 
Re: Cesc Fabregas

Fabregas is talking to Chelsea and City aren't even at the table, apparently they never were.
Quality player but why blow 3/4 of the transfer budget when we need another 2-3 as well.
 
Re: Cesc Fabregas

oakiecokie said:
NipHolmes said:
oakiecokie said:
Fucking spot on !! It aint bastard FIFA games.

Who said it was?

Signing Fabregas is common sense, not a luxury. He's a top quality player.

You called people spoilt Bastards for not wanting Sinclair, Rodwell and Maicon tbh. That wasn't spoit, I said and I quote Sinclair is average, Rodwell perma crock and Maicon on the slide. Proven correct on all accounts. Many were called brats and jonny come latelys etc, fucking pathetic.

The reason people want Fabregas is because he's a top player. He's available for decent money, homegrown, proven in the league, fits style of play and knows many of our first team. It's a great transfer. Fuck all Fifa about it.

Lets get you signed on as City`s Head Coach then Mr Knowall !!! I `ll let people who know far more than you or me to make decisions that will keep our team doing what its been doing for the last few years.
I`ll repeat myself ... this isn`t fucking FIFA television fucking games and why spend money that we aint got when we need to strengthen in other areas ie centre back and a goalkeeper.

Simple.

Sell Milner, Richards, Rodwell, Sinclair.

Sagna on free, GK on loan or free, Febregas and a CB. Easily doable.

Take it as a shifty remark, it's not personal but these Fifa comments are stupid. You call me a Mr Knowitall but you opposed me with the above before, about Mancini not getting most out of players and wanting Mancini gone for another manager. I've been proven right fella. Youve called me a rag, a jcl and many other things, never once have you said you're wrong. You are a nause.
 
Re: Cesc Fabregas

oakiecokie said:
pudge & rodge said:
NipHolmes said:
Who said it was?

Signing Fabregas is common sense, not a luxury. He's a top quality player.

You called people spoilt Bastards for not wanting Sinclair, Rodwell and Maicon tbh. That wasn't spoit, I said and I quote Sinclair is average, Rodwell perma crock and Maicon on the slide. Proven correct on all accounts. Many were called brats and jonny come latelys etc, fucking pathetic.

The reason people want Fabregas is because he's a top player. He's available for decent money, homegrown, proven in the league, fits style of play and knows many of our first team. It's a great transfer. Fuck all Fifa about it.
How is it?

Our priorities this summer are;

A center half, a right back, a defensive midfielder and a goalkeeper. Forking out £30m of a £49m budget on an attacking minded midfielder would be the definition of a luxury signing and make little to fuck all sense.

Never mind the fact we already have Nasri, Silva, Jovetic, Fernandinho, Yaya...

I`m certain NipHolmes is that idiot from OT Mr Flying Pig,who has his own YouTube weekly video rant at things going on at the swamp.

Idiot? Me? You joker. You're the one incessantly calling people rags and clueless when it's actually you who offers no insight or constructive debates.

No, I'm not the prick on YouTube either, nor am I BillyShears as you claimed before.
 
Re: Cesc Fabregas

NipHolmes said:
oakiecokie said:
pudge & rodge said:
How is it?

Our priorities this summer are;

A center half, a right back, a defensive midfielder and a goalkeeper. Forking out £30m of a £49m budget on an attacking minded midfielder would be the definition of a luxury signing and make little to fuck all sense.

Never mind the fact we already have Nasri, Silva, Jovetic, Fernandinho, Yaya...

I`m certain NipHolmes is that idiot from OT Mr Flying Pig,who has his own YouTube weekly video rant at things going on at the swamp.

Idiot? Me? You joker. You're the one incessantly calling people rags and clueless when it's actually you who offers no insight or constructive debates.

No, I'm not the prick on YouTube either, nor am I BillyShears as you claimed before.
You have just ignored my post addressing you wishing to engage in debate to simply bash another poster yourself...
 
Re: Cesc Fabregas

NipHolmes said:
CityStu said:
Not a player we need IMO. If we were to have signed him, it would have largely been to prevent a rival signing him. Not sure he's strong enough to sit in our deeper two and not sure he's any better creatively than Silva and Nasri. Nice player but a bit slow for our system.

I banged the drum for Nasri when many wanted him gone and I blamed Mancini for alienating him with defensive restraints and not playing him more centrally. But, even though I rate Samir highly, Fabregas is a better player. The thing is, they actually play well together. Signing Fabregas is an option that we need if Yaya goes to ACON, suspended or gets injured. He's also 4 years younger and we would be buying a player in his prime whom will justify his fee. He's not a flop because Barca don't want him, he simply doesn't fit their style of play as much as they'd like and he's too big a player to not use regularly. Yaya was a so called reject, look how that worked out

I think Fabregas probably is better than Nasri, but not so much better that it's worth spunking £30m on him. Even if they play well together, with the other players we have in midfield it's very likely to be one or the other. We don't need Fabregas to be an option but we do need an option. I think that Fernando will provide that comfortably and Garcia has proven himself a more than able deputy in the latter stages of last season. I'd agree with signing Cesc if Yaya was to leave, but it's just not worth it for the sake of a few weeks in January.

I think he's an excellent player, but not necessarily one for us and certainly not one for now with our budget restraints.
 
Re: Cesc Fabregas

pudge & rodge said:
NipHolmes said:
oakiecokie said:
I`m certain NipHolmes is that idiot from OT Mr Flying Pig,who has his own YouTube weekly video rant at things going on at the swamp.

Idiot? Me? You joker. You're the one incessantly calling people rags and clueless when it's actually you who offers no insight or constructive debates.

No, I'm not the prick on YouTube either, nor am I BillyShears as you claimed before.
You have just ignored my post addressing you wishing to engage in debate to simply bash another poster yourself...

I personally feel the 4-2-2-2 is too open. I'd like us to play 4-3-3

GK - Hart
LB - Kolarov
CB - Benatia
CB - Kompany
RB - Zabaleta
CDM - Fernandinho
CM - Fabregas
CM - Yaya
LW - Silva
CF - Aguero
RW - Jovetic/Nasri


Against teams we need to be defensively strong against I'd have Fernando and Fernandinho in a twosome and Yaya ahead of them, or Fabregas.

When Xavi got a knock for Barca they used Fabregas, when Bayern lose Schweinsteiger they can use Kroos, when Madrid lose Alonso they have Khedira etc, even Arsenal have better depth. When they lost Ramsey they had Wilshere, Cazorla, Ozil etc. When we lose Yaya we have nobody to call on of his quality. We need to prepare for losing Yaya for ACON and we must prepare for the future, I.e life after Yaya.
 
Re: Cesc Fabregas

CityStu said:
NipHolmes said:
CityStu said:
Not a player we need IMO. If we were to have signed him, it would have largely been to prevent a rival signing him. Not sure he's strong enough to sit in our deeper two and not sure he's any better creatively than Silva and Nasri. Nice player but a bit slow for our system.

I banged the drum for Nasri when many wanted him gone and I blamed Mancini for alienating him with defensive restraints and not playing him more centrally. But, even though I rate Samir highly, Fabregas is a better player. The thing is, they actually play well together. Signing Fabregas is an option that we need if Yaya goes to ACON, suspended or gets injured. He's also 4 years younger and we would be buying a player in his prime whom will justify his fee. He's not a flop because Barca don't want him, he simply doesn't fit their style of play as much as they'd like and he's too big a player to not use regularly. Yaya was a so called reject, look how that worked out

I think Fabregas probably is better than Nasri, but not so much better that it's worth spunking £30m on him. Even if they play well together, with the other players we have in midfield it's very likely to be one or the other. We don't need Fabregas to be an option but we do need an option. I think that Fernando will provide that comfortably and Garcia has proven himself a more than able deputy in the latter stages of last season. I'd agree with signing Cesc if Yaya was to leave, but it's just not worth it for the sake of a few weeks in January.

I think he's an excellent player, but not necessarily one for us and certainly not one for now with our budget restraints.

I'd sell Garcia now we have Fernando. He's not good enough for this team, not by a stretch.

Fernando to cover or play alongside Fernandinho. Yaya needs the same. Milner is off, Lopes to be promoted to cover the left wing.
 
Re: Cesc Fabregas

NipHolmes said:
pudge & rodge said:
NipHolmes said:
Idiot? Me? You joker. You're the one incessantly calling people rags and clueless when it's actually you who offers no insight or constructive debates.

No, I'm not the prick on YouTube either, nor am I BillyShears as you claimed before.
You have just ignored my post addressing you wishing to engage in debate to simply bash another poster yourself...

I personally feel the 4-2-2-2 is too open. I'd like us to play 4-3-3

GK - Hart
LB - Kolarov
CB - Benatia
CB - Kompany
RB - Zabaleta
CDM - Fernandinho
CM - Fabregas
CM - Yaya
LW - Silva
CF - Aguero
RW - Jovetic/Nasri


Against teams we need to be defensively strong against I'd have Fernando and Fernandinho in a twosome and Yaya ahead of them, or Fabregas.

When Xavi got a knock for Barca they used Fabregas, when Bayern lose Schweinsteiger they can use Kroos, when Madrid lose Alonso they have Khedira etc, even Arsenal have better depth. When they lost Ramsey they had Wilshere, Cazorla, Ozil etc. When we lose Yaya we have nobody to call on of his quality. We need to prepare for losing Yaya for ACON and we must prepare for the future, I.e life after Yaya.
So you'd like us to play a formation we didn't last season?

Have possibly 3 strikers on the bench or possibly 1 not in the squad?

Have us sell 4 homegrown players and bring in 1/2?

As well as arguably not factoring in the poor bargaining position we will be in when selling our players due to our transfer restrictions being very public; so raising additional funds wouldn't be as "simple" as you previously portrayed.

Even in your scenario we would have Yaya, Fernando, Garcia, Fernandinho, Nasri, Silva, Navas and arguably Jovetic.... yet Fabregas at £30m wouldn't be a luxury but in your words "common sense"?

No ta.
 
Re: Cesc Fabregas

bluemoston said:
Fabregas is talking to Chelsea and City aren't even at the table, apparently they never were.
Quality player but why blow 3/4 of the transfer budget when we need another 2-3 as well.

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