Champions League Final | Post-Match Thread

Had the full banter in the gym today from a Chelsea supporter, had the whole champions of Europe you’ll never sing that shit, I said congrats etc. Said he wasnt worried as he knew Pep would over think said you won’t win the champions league with Pep then laughed. I Said we won the double had a better season really than you. He replied with who gives a fuck about the league when you can win the champions league.

I replied with you want the league next season though, he replied with don’t think Chelsea will win it next year we will be in the club World Cup after we win the super cup. Villareal are shit we will beat them easy. To many games for Chelsea to play.
 
Puzzles me how the greatest manager ever couldn't see what the fans were screaming about.... ie the gaping hole.
It's only by good fortune we weren't three down at HT.

I mean he selected the wrong formation but had plenty of time to correct it before their goal.
With a first class striker Chelsea would be unplayable. They could do worse than sign Sergio for 12 months.
 
Only thing we can hope is that this is the kick we needed, we got beat badly by the dippers and roared back to win the league and carabao this year.

Fuck knows why we picked both an FA semi final and CL final to change things because we may have had 4 on the table but lets go out in the summer, sign Kane and Grealish and Messi and whoeever fucking else we want and turn this narrative around, we NEED to strengthen and put doubt back in the minds of other teams.
There's no point signing anyone unless we get a new defensive midfielder to replace Fern. Pep doesn't seem to trust Rodri 100 per cent in the big games. Look at the difference Kante made last night.
 
The levels of self-delusion in this thread are reaching incredible levels.

What was the lineup that won 21 games on the bounce? I'd love to know. Name the XI.

Was it the 343 with Cancelo in midfield and Ake in a back 3 against Newcastle? Was it the 4231 we played against Chelsea with Rodri and Gundogan in a double pivot?

Did you want Jesus up front like we played 11 of the 21? Or a false 9 like we played the other 10? Cancelo at RB like he was for 7 of those games? or RB like he was for 8 of them? Or on the bench like he was for the rest?


There was no lineup that won 21 on the bounce. There were 21 different lineups in half a dozen different formations, and for almost every single one of those 21 games, people on here complained that he was changing the lineup too much, or trying something new. And then we'd win, and no one would credit Pep for coming up with a great formation or selection, they'd just keep quiet until the next lineup came out and it was time to whine again.

How can people not remember these things that happened just months ago?

Also, I'm sorry if this is rude, but who the hell thinks "Table doesn't lie" is a clever thing to say when out of the 19 point deficit to us, about 15 of those points difference between the side came under Frank Lampard?
How many of those wins came without one of Rodri or Fernandinho in holding midfield?
 
I think loads of posters have.
The goal was a catalogue of errors
Walker getting caught up the pitch, Stones in no man's land, Dias going over to the right of the pitch to cover, Zinchenko letting his man the wrong side of him.
This is very similar to the Dallas goal for Leeds, Shaws for United and the Ziyech goal for Chelsea.
Caught out on the right and left back and centre halves unable to cover
People were saying Pep was hiding his tactics from Tuchel but In todays video world nothing is hidden. If we concede same type of goal thrice no opposition manager is going to miss that.
 
We clearly have an issue against 532. It has been an issue for 3 seasons, ever since Wolves did a number of us in August 2018. It takes away what Pep has built this team around - wide players- and when we dont have a striker there is no alternative.

I actually think to win this game after 3 years of losing to 352 teams, Pep probably needed to try something even more wild, like he did in the lineup for the league game, but he backed out and compromised.
This part is so true. Its really in his head.
 
No one is defending but many are using it as a cop out saying it’s purely the reason we lost. We didn’t turn up but we had our moments and didn’t take them
The team was unbalanced and disjointed though and players semingly didn't know what to do. If Fern would've been playing that ball to Havertz doesn't get to him.

My thing is why the sudden change, as i said earlier, if you're going to change the system like that, why not try it against Brighton or Everton?...not in the biggest game in the club's history!
 
I agree last nights team selection was wrong. But you are aware that there is a middle ground between Pep the fraud and the sun shines out of his arse?
If you think last night was indefensible, tell me what you would like to see happen?
Of course there's a middle ground.
He's a great coach but as a manager he overthinks it especially in critical games.
I don't think we'll ever win the CL with him in charge but I love the way we normally play.
I ust don't understand why he has to overthink it
 

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