Why? Going on that argument, when Everton qualified a few years back, they would have been in pot one or two then, yeah? They ended up getting knocked out in the qualifying round. Not sure how you could possibly use a team's performance in one competition to rank them in another one? Like it or not, Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea consistently get to the q/f (at least); that merits their top seed ranking, and it is what we should be striving for.MCFC 4 EVER said:The seedings should be based on the teams performance in the domestic league not past history of UEFA competitionstasker said:same as bayern munich, they are in europe every year, they deserve to be in pot 1MCFC 4 EVER said:Why should Arsenal be in pot one when they finished in 4th whilst we finished third and get pot three, the UEFA seedings are a joke!
They are based on the aggregate of the last 5 years and depend heavily on your performance in the European competitions over those 5 seasons.MCFC 4 EVER said:Why should Arsenal be in pot one when they finished in 4th whilst we finished third and get pot three, the UEFA seedings are a joke!
The club coefficient rankings are based on the results of clubs competing in the five previous seasons of the UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League. The rankings determine the seeding of each club in all UEFA competition draws.
UEFA Champions League points system
First qualifying round elimination – 0.5 points
Second qualifying round elimination – 1 point
Group stage participation – 4 points
Group stage win – 2 points
Group stage draw – 1 point
Round of 16 participation – 4 points
Since 2009/10 clubs have been awarded an additional point if they reach the round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals or final.
NB Points are not awarded for elimination in the third qualifying round or play-offs, since those clubs move to the UEFA Europa League and are awarded points for participation in that competition.
UEFA Europa League points system
First qualifying round elimination – 0.25 points
Second qualifying round elimination – 0.5 points
Third qualifying round elimination – 1 point
Play-off elimination – 1.5 points
Group stage win – 2 points
Group stage draw – 1 point
Since 2009/10, clubs have been guaranteed a minimum of two points if they reach the group stage and are awarded an additional point if they get to the quarter-finals, semi-finals or final.
*Penalty shoot-outs do not affect the calculation system.
Coefficient calculation
Clubs' coefficients are determined by the sum of all points won in the previous five years, plus 20% of the association coefficient over the same period (33% before 2009).
These rankings will be updated after each round of UEFA club competition matches.
That's exactly who I want! It's called the Champions League yet 16 of the 32 teams in it aren't even Champions of their country. So I want Barca Milan and Dortmund and then the Rags in the first knock out round at least we can say we've played Champions in the CL then, and to beat them all once - or more - would be great!MSP said:Barcelona, Milan, City, Borussia Dortmund... grrrr
danburge82 said:That's exactly who I want! It's called the Champions League yet 16 of the 32 teams in it aren't even Champions of their country. So I want Barca Milan and Dortmund and then the Rags in the first knock out round at least we can say we've played Champions in the CL then, and to beat them all once - or more - would be great!MSP said:Barcelona, Milan, City, Borussia Dortmund... grrrr
Exactly.SWP's back said:I personally want Real/Barca and AC.
I honestly think we will qualify no matter who we get picked against. I want great games to be honest.
You can't be drawn against a club in your own association (i.e. English FA) in the Group stages or last 16. From then on there's no restriction.paul.manc said:I know that this will seem like a stupid question but is it possible for us to draw against the rags, chelsea or arsenal. Or do UEFA prevent this from happening?
You can't draw teams from your own association in the group stagepaul.manc said:I know that this will seem like a stupid question but is it possible for us to draw against the rags, chelsea or arsenal. Or do UEFA prevent this from happening?
paul.manc said:I know that this will seem like a stupid question but is it possible for us to draw against the rags, chelsea or arsenal. Or do UEFA prevent this from happening?
snedzz said:The pots are wrong guys!!
City are 33rd above Fenerbache and co. See link below:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/ ... index.html</a>
In fact we are second in Pot 3 behind Zenit St Petersburg. If 2 of the 5 seeds in the league play-off draw lose Man City go into Pot 2.
The seeds are Bayern Munich, Arsenal, Lyon, Villarreal and Benfica
snedzz said:The pots are wrong guys!!
City are 33rd above Fenerbache and co. See link below:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/ ... index.html</a>
In fact we are second in Pot 3 behind Zenit St Petersburg. If 2 of the 5 seeds in the league play-off draw lose Man City go into Pot 2.
The seeds are Bayern Munich, Arsenal, Lyon, Villarreal and Benfica
lancs blue said:snedzz said:The pots are wrong guys!!
City are 33rd above Fenerbache and co. See link below:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/ ... index.html</a>
In fact we are second in Pot 3 behind Zenit St Petersburg. If 2 of the 5 seeds in the league play-off draw lose Man City go into Pot 2.
The seeds are Bayern Munich, Arsenal, Lyon, Villarreal and Benfica
That page includes performances for this season, the seedings for 2011/12 are based only on previous seasons, these are the rankings the seedings are based on:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/season=2011/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/ ... index.html</a>
the_tevez_wiggle said:anyone think this will be fixed to show us what they really think of us, i know it sounds paranoid i know but i just dont trust these fuckers especially if we have found a way around ffpr???? we could get royally screwed here.
snedzz said:The pots are wrong guys!!
City are 33rd above Fenerbache and co. See link below:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/ ... index.html</a>
In fact we are second in Pot 3 behind Zenit St Petersburg. If 2 of the 5 seeds in the league play-off draw lose Man City go into Pot 2.
The seeds are Bayern Munich, Arsenal, Lyon, Villarreal and Benfica