Chanting at Munich

SuperKevinHorlock said:
The general consensus of this thread has been one of respect for Munich but I have first hand experience from the 1860 fans that Bayern fans are generally out of town rich gloryhunters.(But you are fine by me and many others on here)
I know some good 1859-supporters.
But the typical 1859-supporter is stupid as fuck! They're always armed with knives in arranged gunfights...
 
WEMBLEY76 said:
In the politically correct world we live in,would it be safe to sing "Your just a place full of Munichs" at the home supporters on Tuesday night ?
Or will the Daily Fail pick up on it and launch into an anti City tirade ?

To answer the original question...

...it would not be safe or "funny" or "original"....but it would be in poor taste and it is this aspect that would be picked up by domestic media.

Although cast in light-hearted spirit ...there is a slightly sinister undertone to the "Munich" banter that surrounds this fixture (and this thread).

I sense a very slight shifting of the "munich" debate amongst City fans over the last couple of years..one or two stragglers that used to support the use of the term more generally have moved over to the camp that feels uncomfortable about its use in songs etc.

But for the diehard free speech defenders, this fixture offers them a "free pass"...an opportunity to sing "munich" songs and use "munich" references at will under the excuse that it is just a bit of playful banter.

Since we are talking about the city where the relevant events happened...I'm not too sure how many people (whether residents of Manchester / Munich or elsewhere) will find it particularly funny or entertaining.
 
Vienna_70 said:
Ruhr said:
Big german clubs like Schalke or Dortmund have a lot of fans outside their own town. But Bayern is the only german club with fan clubs in every part of the country, even at the danish border and especially in east germany (East germans used to have a favourite west german team during the cold war and Bayern was the most famous for them of course).
maybe this fact creates the image of Bayern having more glory hunters than any other german club.

-- Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:42 pm --

kenzie115 said:
But doesn't Munich translate to Munchen, not Munchner?

The city is München, the people Münchner.

Exactly right.

Just people from Berlin are Berliner or people from Dortmund are Dortmunder.

Ruhr,

So us singing "You're just a place full of Munichs" translates to "You're just a place full of Munchens" which doesn't make sense but singing "You're just a place full of Munchners" would translate to "You're just a place full of Munich-ers" which at least makes sense, even if it is rubbish.

Vienna 70,

Doesn't Berliner translate to donut? Or isn't it a type of jelly donut or something? I seem to remember people having a laugh at JFK for saying "Ich bin ein Berliner" at the end of a speech, translating to "I am a donut."
 
Come on... When you're singing 10 german bombers or 2 WW and 1 WC, I always think that it's just showing your loyalty with the Allieds and Swiss who made this happen :-)
 
Bavarian said:
SuperKevinHorlock said:
Bavarian said:
Guess you are lucky, bc you´ve found one at your own board. A club like bayern has a fan-base at home and millions of people all over the world who call themselves fans. In germany there are millions of people who like the Bayern - some are real supporters some are customers or whatever you like to call them. So there are more Bayern-fans outside of Munich than in Munich. To say that the fan-strcture is like the rags is not even wrong - both clubs were successful in the past and therefore have lots of people that found a seat on the bandwaggon. If it helps you to feel better to say something like that about the Munich fan base of our club I am ok with that. Maybe you know Munich better than I do, bc I know lots of Bayern-fans in Munich. Anyway - I have read some posts here, in which officials or fans of other clubs were called bitter. To me it sounds bitter to post that kind of negative comments about the fans of other clubs - doesn´t it?


The general consensus of this thread has been one of respect for Munich but I have first hand experience from the 1860 fans that Bayern fans are generally out of town rich gloryhunters.(But you are fine by me and many others on here)

If I go to Manchester to get some experience about City-fans and ask a group of rags - guess what kind of experience I will get :D?
I know that most of the posters write in respect of Munich and if some don`t thats ok as well - its a city-board. I just wanted to assure u that there are lots of bayern-fans in Munich - for sure more than 1860 could ever mobilize.

I love the fact you have just called them rags haha

please carry on calling them that.
 
kenzie115 said:
Vienna_70 said:
Ruhr said:
Big german clubs like Schalke or Dortmund have a lot of fans outside their own town. But Bayern is the only german club with fan clubs in every part of the country, even at the danish border and especially in east germany (East germans used to have a favourite west german team during the cold war and Bayern was the most famous for them of course).
maybe this fact creates the image of Bayern having more glory hunters than any other german club.

-- Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:42 pm --



The city is München, the people Münchner.

Exactly right.

Just people from Berlin are Berliner or people from Dortmund are Dortmunder.

Ruhr,

So us singing "You're just a place full of Munichs" translates to "You're just a place full of Munchens" which doesn't make sense but singing "You're just a place full of Munchners" would translate to "You're just a place full of Munich-ers" which at least makes sense, even if it is rubbish.

Vienna 70,

Doesn't Berliner translate to donut? Or isn't it a type of jelly donut or something? I seem to remember people having a laugh at JFK for saying "Ich bin ein Berliner" at the end of a speech, translating to "I am a donut."

People in many parts of germany call that a Berliner. (The Berliners themselves don´t call it a Berliner.)
berliner400.jpg
 
Ruhr said:
kenzie115 said:
Vienna_70 said:
Exactly right.

Just people from Berlin are Berliner or people from Dortmund are Dortmunder.

Ruhr,

So us singing "You're just a place full of Munichs" translates to "You're just a place full of Munchens" which doesn't make sense but singing "You're just a place full of Munchners" would translate to "You're just a place full of Munich-ers" which at least makes sense, even if it is rubbish.

Vienna 70,

Doesn't Berliner translate to donut? Or isn't it a type of jelly donut or something? I seem to remember people having a laugh at JFK for saying "Ich bin ein Berliner" at the end of a speech, translating to "I am a donut."

People in many parts of germany call that a Berliner. (The Berliners themselves don´t call it a Berliner.)
berliner400.jpg

Sort of like a Cornish pasty.
 
kenzie115 said:
Vienna_70 said:
Ruhr said:
Big german clubs like Schalke or Dortmund have a lot of fans outside their own town. But Bayern is the only german club with fan clubs in every part of the country, even at the danish border and especially in east germany (East germans used to have a favourite west german team during the cold war and Bayern was the most famous for them of course).
maybe this fact creates the image of Bayern having more glory hunters than any other german club.

-- Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:42 pm --



The city is München, the people Münchner.

Exactly right.

Just people from Berlin are Berliner or people from Dortmund are Dortmunder.

Ruhr,

So us singing "You're just a place full of Munichs" translates to "You're just a place full of Munchens" which doesn't make sense but singing "You're just a place full of Munchners" would translate to "You're just a place full of Munich-ers" which at least makes sense, even if it is rubbish.

Vienna 70,

Doesn't Berliner translate to donut? Or isn't it a type of jelly donut or something? I seem to remember people having a laugh at JFK for saying "Ich bin ein Berliner" at the end of a speech, translating to "I am a donut."

Yes, a Berliner is a type of small doughnut, but it is also a citizen of Berlin.

JFK would have been exactly right if he had said "Ich bin Berliner". You don't use an article to say you are from a certain place, so "Ich bin Hamburger" means 'I am from Hamburg' and "Ich bin ein Hamburger" means 'I am a lump of beef between two pieces of bread'.

I hope this answers your question.
 
What about if we just sang......

"Your just a shit Man United"

Would they get that or understand?

Does anyone on here??
 

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