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Chanting at Munich
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Ruhr
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jrb said:What about if we just sang......
"Your just a shit Man United"
Would they get that or understand?
Does anyone on here??
try the good old Auf Wiedersehn
(as you did on Schalke)
or that way
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muoxq-Mm4aQ&feature=related[/youtube]
sorry flo ;-)
TheMoonIsRising
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daily fail wont do shit were in munich
kenzie115 said:Vienna_70 said:Ruhr said:Big german clubs like Schalke or Dortmund have a lot of fans outside their own town. But Bayern is the only german club with fan clubs in every part of the country, even at the danish border and especially in east germany (East germans used to have a favourite west german team during the cold war and Bayern was the most famous for them of course).
maybe this fact creates the image of Bayern having more glory hunters than any other german club.
-- Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:42 pm --
The city is München, the people Münchner.
Exactly right.
Just people from Berlin are Berliner or people from Dortmund are Dortmunder.
Ruhr,
So us singing "You're just a place full of Munichs" translates to "You're just a place full of Munchens" which doesn't make sense but singing "You're just a place full of Munchners" would translate to "You're just a place full of Munich-ers" which at least makes sense, even if it is rubbish.
Vienna 70,
Doesn't Berliner translate to donut? Or isn't it a type of jelly donut or something? I seem to remember people having a laugh at JFK for saying "Ich bin ein Berliner" at the end of a speech, translating to "I am a donut."
Jelly doughnut misconception
A Berliner
It is a common misconception that Kennedy made a risible error by saying Ich bin ein Berliner (emphasis added): the claim is made that Kennedy referred to himself not as a "citizen of Berlin", but as a "jelly doughnut", known in parts of Germany as a "Berliner".[7][8] Kennedy should, supposedly, have said Ich bin Berliner to mean "I am a person from Berlin", and that adding the indefinite article ein to his statement implied he was a non-human Berliner, thus, "I am a jelly doughnut".[9] However, the indefinite article ein is omitted when speaking of an individual's profession or residence but is necessary when speaking in a figurative sense as Kennedy did. Since the president was not literally from Berlin but only declaring his solidarity with its citizens, "Ich bin Berliner" would not have been correct.[9]
An op-ed from The New York Times demonstrates the misconception:
Whereas the citizens of Berlin do refer to themselves as Berliner, they generally do not refer to jelly doughnuts as Berliner. While these are known as Berliner Pfannkuchen (literally, "Berlin pancake"), commonly shortened to Berliner in other areas of Germany, they are simply called Pfannkuchen (pancakes) in and around Berlin.[11] According to the German History Museum, the theoretical ambiguity went unnoticed by Kennedy's audience.[12] As German professor Reinhold Aman writes, "Ich bin (ein) Berliner means 'I am a Berliner' or '...a male person/native of Berlin' and absolutely nothing else!...No intelligent native speaker of German tittered in Berlin when J.F.K. spoke, just as no native speaker of German, or one who does know this language would titter if someone said, Ich bin ein Wiener or Hamburger or Frankfurter."[13]
The doughnut claim has since been repeated by media such as the BBC (by Alistair Cooke in his Letter from America program),[14] The Guardian,[15] MSNBC,[16] CNN,[17] Time magazine,[18] and The New York Times;[4] mentioned in several books about Germany written by English-speaking authors, including Norman Davies[19] and Kenneth C. Davis;[20] and used in the manual for the Speech Synthesis Markup Language.[21]
Wikipedia...
Some hoax before you called it a hoax...
Maldeika said:kenzie115 said:Vienna_70 said:Exactly right.
Just people from Berlin are Berliner or people from Dortmund are Dortmunder.
Ruhr,
So us singing "You're just a place full of Munichs" translates to "You're just a place full of Munchens" which doesn't make sense but singing "You're just a place full of Munchners" would translate to "You're just a place full of Munich-ers" which at least makes sense, even if it is rubbish.
Vienna 70,
Doesn't Berliner translate to donut? Or isn't it a type of jelly donut or something? I seem to remember people having a laugh at JFK for saying "Ich bin ein Berliner" at the end of a speech, translating to "I am a donut."
Jelly doughnut misconception
A Berliner
It is a common misconception that Kennedy made a risible error by saying Ich bin ein Berliner (emphasis added): the claim is made that Kennedy referred to himself not as a "citizen of Berlin", but as a "jelly doughnut", known in parts of Germany as a "Berliner".[7][8] Kennedy should, supposedly, have said Ich bin Berliner to mean "I am a person from Berlin", and that adding the indefinite article ein to his statement implied he was a non-human Berliner, thus, "I am a jelly doughnut".[9] However, the indefinite article ein is omitted when speaking of an individual's profession or residence but is necessary when speaking in a figurative sense as Kennedy did. Since the president was not literally from Berlin but only declaring his solidarity with its citizens, "Ich bin Berliner" would not have been correct.[9]
An op-ed from The New York Times demonstrates the misconception:
Whereas the citizens of Berlin do refer to themselves as Berliner, they generally do not refer to jelly doughnuts as Berliner. While these are known as Berliner Pfannkuchen (literally, "Berlin pancake"), commonly shortened to Berliner in other areas of Germany, they are simply called Pfannkuchen (pancakes) in and around Berlin.[11] According to the German History Museum, the theoretical ambiguity went unnoticed by Kennedy's audience.[12] As German professor Reinhold Aman writes, "Ich bin (ein) Berliner means 'I am a Berliner' or '...a male person/native of Berlin' and absolutely nothing else!...No intelligent native speaker of German tittered in Berlin when J.F.K. spoke, just as no native speaker of German, or one who does know this language would titter if someone said, Ich bin ein Wiener or Hamburger or Frankfurter."[13]
The doughnut claim has since been repeated by media such as the BBC (by Alistair Cooke in his Letter from America program),[14] The Guardian,[15] MSNBC,[16] CNN,[17] Time magazine,[18] and The New York Times;[4] mentioned in several books about Germany written by English-speaking authors, including Norman Davies[19] and Kenneth C. Davis;[20] and used in the manual for the Speech Synthesis Markup Language.[21]
Wikipedia...
Some hoax before you called it a hoax...
Reinhold Aman sounds like a right laugh!
bayern-flo
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Lautern away last season, isn't it? I love it!Ruhr said:jrb said:What about if we just sang......
"Your just a shit Man United"
Would they get that or understand?
Does anyone on here??
try the good old Auf Wiedersehn
(as you did on Schalke)
or that way
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muoxq-Mm4aQ&feature=related[/youtube]
sorry flo ;-)
But last season has been our charity tour... :-)
bayern-flo said:Lautern away last season, isn't it? I love it!Ruhr said:jrb said:What about if we just sang......
"Your just a shit Man United"
Would they get that or understand?
Does anyone on here??
try the good old Auf Wiedersehn
(as you did on Schalke)
or that way
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muoxq-Mm4aQ&feature=related[/youtube]
sorry flo ;-)
But last season has been our charity tour... :-)
This year it will be more like this...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0N9ktcIft0[/youtube]
Can you sing like this? (I just love this video...)
shawgorbie
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all we need to do is sing our normal songs hopefully when we're winning(without any bad taste songs)shake hands with the poor dears after the match and then go and get steaming in the oktoberfest.Pissed off i'm not there
Eastlands
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I was very pleased to see reports that a delegation from City are to pay respect the the players (and others) who died in Munich disaster whilst over there for the Champions league against Bayern
'City Life President Bernard Halford will lead City's representation in remembering the Munich air crash of 1958'.
It is hoped that this bridge mending gesture will demonstrate to the idiots who persist in using this terrible event to score points over the Reds, just what right minded people think of them. Do they realise that our own Frank Swift died in this air crash
I came across this thread yesterday and some so called fans are looking to use our visit to Munich as an excuse to sing Munich chants and exchanging ideas on the subject. Why the site admin don't put a stop to this I'll never know
'City Life President Bernard Halford will lead City's representation in remembering the Munich air crash of 1958'.
It is hoped that this bridge mending gesture will demonstrate to the idiots who persist in using this terrible event to score points over the Reds, just what right minded people think of them. Do they realise that our own Frank Swift died in this air crash
I came across this thread yesterday and some so called fans are looking to use our visit to Munich as an excuse to sing Munich chants and exchanging ideas on the subject. Why the site admin don't put a stop to this I'll never know
Bavarian said:SuperKevinHorlock said:Bavarian said:Guess you are lucky, bc you´ve found one at your own board. A club like bayern has a fan-base at home and millions of people all over the world who call themselves fans. In germany there are millions of people who like the Bayern - some are real supporters some are customers or whatever you like to call them. So there are more Bayern-fans outside of Munich than in Munich. To say that the fan-strcture is like the rags is not even wrong - both clubs were successful in the past and therefore have lots of people that found a seat on the bandwaggon. If it helps you to feel better to say something like that about the Munich fan base of our club I am ok with that. Maybe you know Munich better than I do, bc I know lots of Bayern-fans in Munich. Anyway - I have read some posts here, in which officials or fans of other clubs were called bitter. To me it sounds bitter to post that kind of negative comments about the fans of other clubs - doesn´t it?
The general consensus of this thread has been one of respect for Munich but I have first hand experience from the 1860 fans that Bayern fans are generally out of town rich gloryhunters.(But you are fine by me and many others on here)
If I go to Manchester to get some experience about City-fans and ask a group of rags - guess what kind of experience I will get :D?
I know that most of the posters write in respect of Munich and if some don`t thats ok as well - its a city-board. I just wanted to assure u that there are lots of bayern-fans in Munich - for sure more than 1860 could ever mobilize.
Mobilise......what an unfortunate turn of phrase.<br /><br />-- Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:45 pm --<br /><br />
eastlandsblue.co.uk said:I was very pleased to see reports that a delegation from City are to pay respect the the players (and others) who died in Munich disaster whilst over there for the Champions league against Bayern
'City Life President Bernard Halford will lead City's representation in remembering the Munich air crash of 1958'.
It is hoped that this bridge mending gesture will demonstrate to the idiots who persist in using this terrible event to score points over the Reds, just what right minded people think of them. Do they realise that our own Frank Swift died in this air crash
I came across this thread yesterday and some so called fans are looking to use our visit to Munich as an excuse to sing Munich chants and exchanging ideas on the subject. Why the site admin don't put a stop to this I'll never know
Great post mate.
I see baconface begrudgingly praised us for this the sozzled old pisscan.