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Ched Evans - serious injury
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It was just a classic case of the mob targeting an easy target to punish for the deeds of many. He was seen as the poster boy for rapists getting off easy, so instead of petitioning mps to try and get harsher sentences for convicted rapists or anything else significant, they just made sure that this one convicted rapist couldn't be employed so they could all feel better about themselves. The shitest part of it was that MP's were getting in on it as well, when they are the cunts with the power to actually make a difference.The odd thing about this one at the time is that the loudest critics werent Oldham or Sheff United supporters. In many cases they werent even football supporters.
Just people that wanted an additional punishment over and above what was decided by the court.
For me that can't be right.
mancity dan
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According the BBC's Dan Roan on Twitter, the appeal has now finished. "Judgment has been reserved and will be delivered in April," he says.
Was hoping they were going to come up with a judgement today.
urmston
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Was hoping they were going to come up with a judgement today.
As far as Evans is concerned it doesn't matter much.
If he's still guilty nothing changes but if he is cleared in April he'll have plenty of time to get fit and find a new club for pre-season training.
Was hoping they were going to come up with a judgement today.
Always a long shot, I think. It's apparently quite rare for such a hearing to go into two days, so there's probably quite a lot for them to consider. It's also a very high-profile case. I don't blame them for wanting to take their time and make sure they've been over everything in depth.
In other news, the prosecution told the court today that they'll seek a retrial if the court overturns the conviction: http://www.theguardian.com/football...field-united-footballer-rape?CMP=share_btn_tw
Doesn't mean they'll automatically get one, of course. The Court of Appeal is perfectly entitled to tell them to sod off if it thinks that's the right course of action.
NipHolmes
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As far as Evans is concerned it doesn't matter much.
If he's still guilty nothing changes but if he is cleared in April he'll have plenty of time to get fit and find a new club for pre-season training.
If he is acquited, could he not sue for damages? He was a second rate footballer at his peak, and the loss of earnings denied him a living tbf.
If he is acquited, could he not sue for damages? He was a second rate footballer at his peak, and the loss of earnings denied him a living tbf.
See my post this morning. To get any compensation, he has to prove that he definitely didn't do it. It seems, based on earlier reports ostensibly sourced from Evans's camp, that the appeal strategy was based on establishing a reasonable doubt rather than that he's conclusively innocent. I may be wrong on that, of course, but if I'm not, then he won't get compensation.
NipHolmes
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See my post this morning. To get any compensation, he has to prove that he definitely didn't do it. It seems, based on earlier reports ostensibly sourced from Evans's camp, that the appeal strategy was based on establishing a reasonable doubt rather than that he's conclusively innocent. I may be wrong on that, of course, but if I'm not, then he won't get compensation.
Great post of yours, very comprehensive.
If I was Ched, and he is innocent of rape, I would sue the arse out whoever possible. Keep half and donate the other half to charity, ideally a rape victim one.
Dunno what to say, because he is guilty of being a dodgy fucker and a lowlife regardless of convictions. If he is guilty, with new evidence it is shit of him to drag this out. If he is innocent of rape which I have always believed then this is justice but only when he gets the earnings he lost back.
I remember a fireman (iirc) got loads of info about the victim bragging about money and buying a mini with the compo etc.
Its a tough one. I just fail to see how Clayton was innocent and he was guilty, she was tipsy but not hammered imo. Sex with Clayton wouldve woken her up a bit. I also cant believe a rapist would book his room in his name prior to taking a victim there. Makes no sense.
All to come, by much better informed people than I, who are far better qualified to make an assessment. I dont like Ched, never did, but if he is innoecnt then he needs justice.
EalingBlue2
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Well it looks like whatever happens it won't be ched is innocent it will be a marginal decision (obviously there is something but not a smoking gun). So what then he is an accused rapist again , unlikely to get compensation etc
Prosecution have said they will ask for a retrial which may well be granted, but to many will be seen as pointless. if that's so then this could drag on another year or two and beyond the period of his licence, actually making his exile longer and more dramatic. It also raises the point as to how on earth a retrial could be fair to both sides as it seems everyone has made up their mind anyway - how could a jury be picked? Also with new cps guidelines the retrial could actually be slightly tougher for him as well. Then take into account the fact sentence is served and it gets even more complex.
I know he wants to prove his innocence but he will actually probably end up prolonging everything by years by the way he's tackled it and at the end of it no one will change their mind as to guilt or innocence anyway.
Prosecution have said they will ask for a retrial which may well be granted, but to many will be seen as pointless. if that's so then this could drag on another year or two and beyond the period of his licence, actually making his exile longer and more dramatic. It also raises the point as to how on earth a retrial could be fair to both sides as it seems everyone has made up their mind anyway - how could a jury be picked? Also with new cps guidelines the retrial could actually be slightly tougher for him as well. Then take into account the fact sentence is served and it gets even more complex.
I know he wants to prove his innocence but he will actually probably end up prolonging everything by years by the way he's tackled it and at the end of it no one will change their mind as to guilt or innocence anyway.