Totally agree, but will she apologise, there is about as much chance as her winning a medal again. It is this holier than thow attitude she took to boost her image rights.
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Man_City_Loyal
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Because he's still a cnut who treats women like shit. Or maybe you can't see that.
obviously not
In answer to the points raised since my last visit to this thread:
The fact remains that he is not guilty of the crime by which Ennis, using her PR machine. sought to stop an employer from employing him. She was directly involved with the club to my knowledge and could have made her feelings clear behind closed doors. Going so public now gives her a similar responsibility following the reversal of his conviction.
He has no need to apologise for consensual sex if that is what is proven to have taken place. If he took advantage of her drunken state then his conviction should have stood as she was not in a position to give legitimate consent. To make that call I would need, as we all would, to see all of the evidence placed before the jury rather than the appalling headlines of the Sun who declared that he was GUILTY despite the new verdict, and the edited versions that nearly always seek to damn the person in the public eye: it sells copy after all!
Rape is too serious an offence to trivialise it and difficult enough to prove without treating the evidence in a haphazard way. There is a huge issue here: firstly, the defence of consensual sex is causing a huge decrease in the number of convictions and secondly, condemning in public the accused, before a conviction, has to stop.
Most rapes go unreported as the victim's trauma is so paralysing. Often the accused is a family member or someone known to the victim so there is also a shame that is felt by the victim and a reluctance to pursue unfortunately. Those that do go ahead face a slim chance of conviction due to the burden of proving beyond a reasonable doubt: how do you convict someone who shares a hotel room in the early hours of the morning, with absolute certainty that consent did not take place? It is a very difficult scenario and one which really needs examining.
I understand that in America, the law has been changed so that 'belief' of the victim in the basic premise to beginning a case.
The fact remains that he is not guilty of the crime by which Ennis, using her PR machine. sought to stop an employer from employing him. She was directly involved with the club to my knowledge and could have made her feelings clear behind closed doors. Going so public now gives her a similar responsibility following the reversal of his conviction.
He has no need to apologise for consensual sex if that is what is proven to have taken place. If he took advantage of her drunken state then his conviction should have stood as she was not in a position to give legitimate consent. To make that call I would need, as we all would, to see all of the evidence placed before the jury rather than the appalling headlines of the Sun who declared that he was GUILTY despite the new verdict, and the edited versions that nearly always seek to damn the person in the public eye: it sells copy after all!
Rape is too serious an offence to trivialise it and difficult enough to prove without treating the evidence in a haphazard way. There is a huge issue here: firstly, the defence of consensual sex is causing a huge decrease in the number of convictions and secondly, condemning in public the accused, before a conviction, has to stop.
Most rapes go unreported as the victim's trauma is so paralysing. Often the accused is a family member or someone known to the victim so there is also a shame that is felt by the victim and a reluctance to pursue unfortunately. Those that do go ahead face a slim chance of conviction due to the burden of proving beyond a reasonable doubt: how do you convict someone who shares a hotel room in the early hours of the morning, with absolute certainty that consent did not take place? It is a very difficult scenario and one which really needs examining.
I understand that in America, the law has been changed so that 'belief' of the victim in the basic premise to beginning a case.
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Correct.
How the fuckinhel his bird stayed with him listening to everything he did to nail this bird.
The mind boggles.
And what's worse is her dad paid all the legal costs for him
bluethrunthru
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fucking hell
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fucking hell
My guess it is CTE related, which is unfortunate, if that is indeed the case.
It has been present from the beginning of football but is just now being more regularly recognised.
bluethrunthru
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My guess it is CTE related, which is unfortunate, if that is indeed the case.
It has been present from the beginning of football but is just now being more regularly recognised.
If so and at his age I doubt he will be back playing
kaz7
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What is that seb ?My guess it is CTE related, which is unfortunate, if that is indeed the case.
It has been present from the beginning of football but is just now being more regularly recognised.