Ched Evans - serious injury

[malg]

I know it's off topic, but I love the Abraham Lincoln quote.

I think it's some kind of wind up, how the fuck could Lincoln be quoted saying anything about the internet? He died years ago......

 

[Blueto]

Granted he died years ago, but there was a shit film recently about him being a vampire slayer (or something like that) and I
Never knew that either.

 

[Blueto]

And apparently, his last words were
"I'll have a choc ice, please"

 

[HellYeah]

I think it's some kind of wind up, how the fuck could Lincoln be quoted saying anything about the internet? He died years ago......

I think that's the point, don't you think

 

[BlueTG]

There seems to be a some very wayward moral compasses in the public in regards to convicted offenders and footballers.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but drink and drive murderers (or manslaughter convictions) seem to squeeze back into football relatively easily and without huge, vitriolic campaigns from the four corners of the country (ala Lee Hughes and that Plymouth goalkeeper). Yet this case got every Kat, Gill and Stacey off their fat arses and onto their high horse whether it involved them or not. Just seems odd, a bit of a feminist campaign to suit an agenda in the public eye.

That is however, not me condoning what happened, though it wasn't exactly black and white. I just find a lot of the nay-Sayers to be hypocritical, or very selective in what they choose to be publicly outraged with.

You either support the rehabilitation programmes to their purposes, and let him take his steps towards his own rehabilitation, or you might as well let him rot as he wont live a life again. Or in this 'offended era', just choose to be offended because you can.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

There seems to be a some very wayward moral compasses in the public in regards to convicted offenders and footballers.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but drink and drive murderers (or manslaughter convictions) seem to squeeze back into football relatively easily and without huge, vitriolic campaigns from the four corners of the country (ala Lee Hughes and that Plymouth goalkeeper). Yet this case got every Kat, Gill and Stacey off their fat arses and onto their high horse whether it involved them or not. Just seems odd, a bit of a feminist campaign to suit an agenda in the public eye.

That is however, not me condoning what happened, though it wasn't exactly black and white. I just find a lot of the nay-Sayers to be hypocritical, or very selective in what they choose to be publicly outraged with.

You either support the rehabilitation programmes to their purposes, and let him take his steps towards his own rehabilitation, or you might as well let him rot as he wont live a life again. Or in this 'offended era', just choose to be offended because you can.

With Ched Evans, we're in a strange situation though, because he has always maintained his innocence. So therefore the idea of rehabilitation taking place is impossible because it's either not necessary because he's innocent, or not possible, because he refuses to take responsibility for a rape he committed, or perhaps doesn't even see anything wrong with what he did, even though legally it constitutes rape.

It's a bit different now because he's successfully been granted a retrial, so he's technically only an alleged rapist again. However, with the previous clubs, what people were protesting against at the time was someone who was a convicted rapist who had at no point shown any remorse for his actions. Obviously you wouldn't expect him to, if he believes himself to be innocent. But that's slightly different from Lee Hughes (who I believe did generate quite a bit of controversy too) who pleaded guilty and accepted responsibility for his actions. Doing your time might be all you're technically required to do, but it's not surprising that an unashamed rapist would get a poor reception for the fans of any club that was attempting to sign him, which is what he effectively was at the time of the other clubs' interest.

 

[BlueTG]

With Ched Evans, we're in a strange situation though, because he has always maintained his innocence. So therefore the idea of rehabilitation taking place is impossible because it's either not necessary because he's innocent, or not possible, because he refuses to take responsibility for a rape he committed, or perhaps doesn't even see anything wrong with what he did, even though legally it constitutes rape.

It's a bit different now because he's successfully been granted a retrial, so he's technically only an alleged rapist again. However, with the previous clubs, what people were protesting against at the time was someone who was a convicted rapist who had at no point shown any remorse for his actions. Obviously you wouldn't expect him to, if he believes himself to be innocent. But that's slightly different from Lee Hughes (who I believe did generate quite a bit of controversy too) who pleaded guilty and accepted responsibility for his actions. Doing your time might be all you're technically required to do, but it's not surprising that an unashamed rapist would get a poor reception for the fans of any club that was attempting to sign him, which is what he effectively was at the time of the other clubs' interest.

Fair point well made, never really looked at it that way.

It'll be interesting what the outcome is from
The retrial

 

[manchester blue]

I think that's the point, don't you think

Hell Yeah...

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

And apparently, his last words were
"I'll have a choc ice, please"

Bollox! He said, 'I want a chip muffin'!

 

[HellYeah]

Bollox! He said, 'I want a chip muffin'!

Chip butty, surely