Chelsea fans throwing missiles from South Stand 3rd tier

[Dodge]

Did he mention whether any liverpool fans had been charged?

Only 2 denied access, when searched at entry trying to get pyro's into the stadium, none for public order.

 

[Bluesince1979]

Its weird how the club are behaving towards its own supporters.
That reply basically spells put that its a purposeful approach to call out blues but not away fans.
What possible reason could that be? Its a conscious decision on their part

Odd

 

[Dodge]

Almost certainly not, reading between the lines, because they were only on L3 and so couldn’t be seen by the crap CCTV
Of course ‘the greatest fans in football’ could always do the decent thing and turn in the scumbag who scarred a young girl for life, but I won’t be holding my breath…
I wonder if GMP are giving us a discount on the increased policing costs, seeing as much of this problem is of their own making, ie by insisting away fans go up there for cup games

Each PSU (27 officers) costs the club approx £13k. Each PSU also requires a medic and liaison officer who reports to the match commander.

Some of the officers for Friday night are drawn from surrounding forces so as not to affect the normal Friday night policing of the City Centre. Friday night football is the worst case scenario for GMP and the club, hence the extortionate costs incurred by the club. The TV companies make no contribution!

 

[Dodge]

Its weird how the club are behaving towards its own supporters.
That reply basically spells put that its a purposeful approach to call out blues but not away fans.
What possible reason could that be? Its a conscious decision on their part

Odd

It's beyond comprehension mate. The security team want to publicise the details 1) as a deterrent and 2) to pacify City supporters, but the club embargo it.

Go figure.

 

[LongsightM13]

It's beyond comprehension mate. The security team want to publicise the details 1) as a deterrent and 2) to pacify City supporters, but the club embargo it.

Go figure.

Our communications strategy is utterly baffling in many respects and I say that as someone who works in the industry

 

[johnnytapia]

Probably too busy celebrating his Nov 2022 promotion to the board my friend.
Pretty stellar career path since leaving Cheshire Constabulary, whilst overseeing several recent breakdowns in security at the stadium. But, at least he got the MCFC hoodlums that celebrated on the pitch brought to book.

Manchester City Football Club​

3 years 5 months

• Director of Safety And Security​

  Nov 2022 - Present 3 months
  Manchester Area, United Kingdom

• Head of Safety and Security at Manchester City Football Club​

  May 2022 - Nov 2022 7 months
  Manchester, England, United Kingdom

• Manchester City Football Club Safety and Security manager​

  Sep 2019 - May 2022 2 years 9 months
• 
  

  Global Lead for Critical Incidents​

  City Football Group​

  Oct 2020 - May 2022 1 year 8 months
  Manchester, England, United Kingdom
• 
  

  Superintendent​

  Cheshire Police (Cheshire Constabulary)​

  Apr 2012 - Jul 2019 7 years 4 months

Busy ****

 

[blue b4 the moon]

OK, I've had a long and detailed call from Carl Capewell, who is the Senior Safety & Security Manager at City. He reports to Luke McDonnell, who in turn reports to Danny Wilson. A surprisingly open and frank conversation, which (to a certain extent) has answered satisfactorily all my queries. To summarise as follows:

* The two Chelsea fans who were witnessed spitting and throwing items onto SS1 were arrested by GMP at the match and subsequently charged with public order offences. They will go to Court and will have banning orders imposed. The club have chosen NOT to publicise this, despite objections from the Security team at City.
* The CCTV system at City is 10 years old and is not fit for purpose in identifying offenders in Level 3, because it mirrors the North Stand layout. CCTV camera's have now been positioned on the roof of the South Stand in the hope that it can now pick up any Level 3 illegal behaviour. The CCTV system will be upgraded when orders are placed for the Arena CCTV system, when the two systems can be aligned.
* Increased signage has been added in the away end which specifically details missiles, pryro's and spitting - advising any caught will be arrested, charged and brought before the courts. Football banning orders will be implemented. This will be supported by messaging on the TV screens in the concourse.
* Plastic pint pots are now not available in the away end for all PL games (or in Level 2/3 for expanded away followings for cup games). The beer will be served in orange paper cups, easier to identify when being thrown and easier to spot by stewards when being brought into the stadium from the concourse. He did mention that Asahi objected strongly to this because paper cups affect the taste of their beer!
* For the Arsenal game on Friday the first FOUR rows of seats in L2 will be netted off. This allows the club to place supporter facing stewards and police in front of the first row without affecting viewing lines of spectators, all in enhanced fluorescent jackets to provide a visible deterrent to any potential idiots. He described this line of stewards/police as a "colour show" as is used in European stadiums for high profile games.
* Although the Arsenal game is officially a "medium risk" event, City will be deploying a "high risk" level of stewarding/police for the game. Bizarrely, the Club initially planned for a 4:30pm Sunday event, which would have been regarded as "high risk". The move to Friday night has reduced the risk apparently.
* The club have requested 5 x GMP PSU groups for the game on Friday, each PSU (Police Support Unit) is 27 officers.
* There will also be an additional 100 stewards in place on Friday night.

The club is looking at several options to erect netting for future Cup games with expanded away allocations. City will be the first Premier League club to erect netting, so it has to be right and this will be in place next season.

Reading between the lines, the security team do not agree with the softly, softly "holistic" approach to calling out the behaviour of away fans at the Etihad. This is borne out by the club not publicising the arrests made at the Chelsea game, whilst making statements calling out alleged homophobic chants by City fans.

That's it, in a nutshell. Make of it what you will, but Friday will be the acid test.

Up the fucking Blues.

Well done.

It's a disgrace the club have allowed the CCTV/or not upgraded it since level 3 was opened tho.

 

[LongsightM13]

Well done.

It's a disgrace the club have allowed the CCTV/or not upgraded it since level 3 was opened tho.

Yep and a serious failure of their legal duty of care

 

[LongsightM13]

Each PSU (27 officers) costs the club approx £13k. Each PSU also requires a medic and liaison officer who reports to the match commander.

Some of the officers for Friday night are drawn from surrounding forces so as not to affect the normal Friday night policing of the City Centre. Friday night football is the worst case scenario for GMP and the club, hence the extortionate costs incurred by the club. The TV companies make no contribution!

I bet the trams will be even worse than usual as well

 

[Dodge]

One thing I forgot to mention.

The 10% EFL Cup & 15% FA Cup allocations are non-negotiable, if the away team request the full allocation. Although slightly reduced now with the implementation of the 4 rows of netting. The ONLY way to accommodate these locations are as the present arrangement. The club will never put City fans above a full L1/L2 away area. I got the impression that they just don't want to risk City fans behaving in a similar way to Dippers/Chelsea fans and the adverse publicity this would cause. Probably fair enough in my opinion.

The security team also handed their "observations" to their counterparts at the swamp about various objects being thrown from above down into the City enclosure at the Derby.