Chelsea hit with 74 FA charges for alleged rule breaches

After years and years of putting up with utter bull shit, what a moment it will be if we are cleared and Chelsea are the club that have been breaking the rules all along.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
The timing of these announcements by the PL seem very tactical. They have settled the APT case and now they are seen to be pursuing Chelsea properly. It is almost as if they are trying to soften the blow of being damaged in the 115 case. Comms people spend a lot of time thinking about the timing of these things. The PL defensive narrative for the 115 case is bloody obvious.
The false narrative is: "We did our best with City but they were obstructive and we couldn't conduct our investigation as fully as we would like. We don't regret the decision though because we have a duty to all PL clubs to investigate such serious allegations. We treat all clubs the same. Look at Chelsea. The club alerted us to the financial discrepancies and co-operated so we could carry out our investigation. We will always act in the best interest of clubs and the integrity of our national sport."
This message will be drip fed to the usual suspects in the UK media and the PL-friendly Club Directors in off the record briefings because the official public statement will be bland to reduce legal risks. My gut feeling is (unless it is this weekend) the publicity will be stage-managed in the October international break.
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I'm hoping they need the money from Chelsea so they can pay our costs...
 
Seems very strange that within hours the 74 charges being made public it’s also leaked that even if found guilty it will just be a fine with no points deductions or transfer sanctions.

Meanwhile, years on and we are still non the wiser as to our fate.
 
I cannot believe how soft our media are being with Chelsea over this. Don't get me wrong, I can believe they want to do it like this(we know their agenda) but I cannot believe they are brazen enough to show such double standards so openly. It's a slap in the face. Sky Sports seem happy for it to be a financial fine.

They've done fuck all speculating on the leaks during the investigation either, they've not been creating outrage about how many signings could have been implicated, how it would have affected other clubs, who they robbed of silverware/how many titles could be stripped and how it could cheat FFP calculations(suppose those unpaid interest free loans told us they don't care about these things) etc. I want to see a side by side of the tone used here by Sky Sports in particular, in comparison to what City got, including that weasel faced prick Kaveh Solhekol(was he all sheepish and appologetic about it?).

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I will look into this more but these are my first thoughts:

There is no mention of illegal transfer payments in these charges and it only goes as far back as 2009.

I was wondering if they've escaped the illegal transfer payments charge, due to some sort of cut-off point but Hazard was signed in 2012 .

I don't get how they are downplaying this and making it 'a matter of tax only'. It's still illegal transfer payments and incorrect reporting of financial reports over a 13 year period. But the FA have somehow chosen not to go for the most serious charges possible. Chelsea look to be getting damage control to allow this to happen.


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I do see it says: "A Premier League investigation into Chelsea is ongoing"
But the timing of this seems to be testing the waters for a soft punishment being handed down by the PL and the MSM are helping make sure it's a pill that the masses will swallow. If I remember right, illegal transfer payments is a charge which the FA handed Spurs during the start of the PL era, for their shady dealings in the 80s. They wanted a 12 points deduction there and that included a change of ownership with the club self reporting it. The financial rules were much looser back then too, with fewer precedents set. Maybe things have changed since then and it's not a charge the FA can give and we are being too hasty by assuming Chelsea are going to get a slap on the wrist(from the PL) but the way the media are calling it is still inexcusable.

Were City charged by the FA before the PL had finished their investigation? I can't seem to recall any involvement from the FA around the 115/130 charges.
 
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Blue Mist said:
I'll pick out one part of your post 'if it came to light later '
How would it ever come to light. (Bar hacked emails) ?
The rags openly stated people were looking at the wrong set of accounts when the media queried their spending and yet no one batted an eye lid.
The whole set up is a joke. If you are honest you get punished, if you are bent, who cares.
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A whistleblower, a careless conversation, maybe a PL friendly future buyer of the club having access to their books, who knows, but it can happen and if they’ve deemed it obvious enough to declare then clearly it’s not the same as our situation where we say we haven’t made any errors, certainly something not visible purely by “due diligence”. I would say Chelsea were worried it could get discovered eventually otherwise why come clean? And doing that is admirable but cannot totally absolve the advantage the club got from not complying.
 
citytill1die84 said:
8m fine being rumoured lol we got stripped of titles, relegated to non league haha
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Same when UEFA tried to ban us, and we had huge fines and squad reductions and yet when the CL "history" clubs started falling foul, it was no bans, just token fines and no reductions of squads, totally different to what they hit us with
 
blueinsa said:
Seems very strange that within hours the 74 charges being made public it’s also leaked that even if found guilty it will just be a fine with no points deductions or transfer sanctions.

Meanwhile, years on and we are still non the wiser as to our fate.
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According to the BBC sport twats.
Chelsea's cooperation will be seen as a good thing .

How does that work.
So we haven't cooperated because we haven't done anything.

I'm about sick of it all.
It'll carry on and on until the cartel gets what they and the fa plus eufa want.
Cartel clubs in the top four fuck everyone else
 
You have to wonder through how this stayed hidden for the time period for all allegations. Accounts kept getting signed off, HMRC returns submitted. More then one person know surely?

One forced purchase and a new set of accountants spot the issues immediately, realise this cannot be accounting errors and the no doubt high priced legal advice is throw your hands up and admit as we cannot sign off on the books as they are.

Forget the FA and the PL, if it's paying agents to avoid paying HMRC its tax evasion. Fraud squad to get involved? 2012 accounts:


Page 4 notes the auditor, it's one of the big 4, cannot have got it so wrong surely over such a long period? Holding companies, off the books payments, shell corporations? What on earth did Clearlake et all find when they opened up the books that warranted this course of action?
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
The timing of these announcements by the PL seem very tactical. They have settled the APT case and now they are seen to be pursuing Chelsea properly.
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mattcity5 said:
I'm hoping they need the money from Chelsea so they can pay our costs...
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Chelsea have been charged by the FA not the PL apparently the PL are still pontificating about charging Chelsea UEFA fined them €10 within weeks So, why it’s taken so long no one know
 
Blue Mist said:
Sorry but you’ve not thought it through. If a bent owner sells to a bent mate no one would know about crooked deals. That is my point.
The Premier League is worth hundreds of millions, the FA is the most prestigious name in the football world and yet between them the only system to detect fraud/theft is a new owner 'fessing up (or a criminal hacking a clubs emails)

Look at the rags. They admitted to the world they were skint. They sacked Doris in the canteen and a few others and then spent 200 million. When people asked questions they said we were looking at the wrong accounting books !!
No one has decided to examine their accounts, no one has asked the dippers where they have got their money from and yet, because someone is being honest they get punished. How is that right ?
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Owners come and go Chelsea football club don’t so the football club carries the can for any cheating!
 
If I remember right, the UEFA charge was before the leaks. It was based on some financial irregularities that the new ownership found. If these payments were off the books, it could well be they knew nothing about what was in the leaks. So the measily fine they got from UEFA, may not have covered the illegal transfer payments at all. UEFA could well be waiting to see what evidence the PL investigation reveals, to see if it's worth re-opening.

Of course, these charges could just indicate the extent of the allegations which the PL found evidence enough to change Chelsea with. Hence there are no illegal transfer payments charges because of that. A lack of evidence doesn't seem to stop UEFA or the PL, based on what we've seen so far elsewhere though. So that wouldn't make me feel much better about it.
 
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bell_mcfc said:
Their massive spending makes you think they know they are guilty or certainly will face punishment. We never did that once, January was a reaction to the season performance not just buying for the sake of it.

Fuck em.
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They've filled an Armageddon bunker full of players for when they get banned from buying players for 2 years.

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