This is part of what I was trying to articulate to another poster on here when he was going on about “national mourning”.Mourning is a very personal thing. I still remember going into town to register my Dad's death, then going to the Abercrombie and ordering a double whisky (not my normal thing!) and sitting there, feeling like shit as I remembered the times we had had together, not least going to Maine Road.
Other people might (for example) have gone into a church and lit a candle. Or gone home and wept in private, Whatever.
The snag with national mourning is that we are no longer one people - if we ever were. Reactions to the Queen's death vary hugely, and no one will tell me different. Some are genuinely broken-hearted. Some don't give a damn. And there's every shade in between. Herding cats ain't in it. You cannot force people to have feelings they don't have.
Yeah but it means an awful lot to an awful lot of other people. It's not just about you guys and football and different programs on TV.If people have to keep explaining why it's such a big deal, then maybe they're not realising just how much things have changed. It quite simply isn't a big deal for many, many people, myself included. Historically I get why it is, I suppose, but it absolutely doesn't feel like it's something I'll ever care about because there is simply no emotional attachment to the royal family for lots of people.
This is nothing more than the passing of another famous person for many of us. Admittedly an ultra famous person, probably the most famous person in the world, but still just that. She did her job very well and many people obviously love her, but I don't think it's unfair to say that the overriding feeling for an awful lot of people is that her passing will not change their lives in any way at all. A trending news topic, 'aww that's sad, she seemed nice', and that's it. Life cracked on almost immediately
She didn't 'give' many of us anything. At least that's how it feels. The monarchy feels incredibly antiquated, out of touch, and basically unimportant, for many people these days. Lots of the younger generation just see it all as tourism boosting, and vaguely know about her knighting people etc, and maybe the queen's speech (which I've genuinely never watched, because why would I? There's good films on and it's Christmas day...) - none of these things are going to particularly inspire passionate feelings are they?
To me, and I'm genuinely not trying to be disrespectful, because fuck me I can't be arsed with a cancelling, City finally beating Spurs would be a more memorable day. It really would. Because City have a direct impact on my life and football is something I think about every day. I think of the Queen absolutely never, unless she was all over the news, because she had absolutely no bearing on my day to day life in any shape or form whatsoever. At very least that's the perception for many. If people want to argue that isn't true, then go for it, but that isn't my fault. It's a result of the increasingly detached relevance the royal family have to modern society.
To be honest, maybe you're right. Maybe it is a big deal, but not in the way you think it is. Maybe it's real significance is that her passing will slowly signify the end of the monarchy as something of any relevance at all in the modern age. Historic, yes, but particularly emotional and pertinent to many of us? Nope. I think it's quite telling how many people are upset over football being cancelled. If this really had shook the nation, no one would be arsed about it being off, but ultimately it just hasn't. Vast majority cracked on with their day within half hour I'd guess. Sorry if this bothers anyone. Just trying to explain what it feels like on the other side.
Maybe you're not trying to be disrepectful, maybe you are. Only you can answer that. Not sure what adjective you'd use to describe the act of calling the new Monarch a "prick", though.
Yeah but it means an awful lot to an awful lot of other people. It's not just about you guys and football and different TV programs
I've always thought people who say "they can read people" are pricks. Each to their own.In a different thread, in a different post, in an entirely different context, in response to what I felt was arrogant, prickish behaviour?? Strange to link the two posts several hours apart, but you do you.
I said this was the reason yesterday at home, got everything to do with it imo, if the dippers were away I’m guessing they’d have on. Be interesting to see how they behave midweek.If this is correct then those Scouse twats need to take a hard look at themselves - and the club too....
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Fine, Those who want to mourn can choose to not go to the football and mourn in peace then. Don't see why those of us who don't give a toss should have to sufferYeah but it means an awful lot to an awful lot of other people. It's not just about you guys and football and different programs on TV.
People want to mourn, simple really. We can do without 1 footy match surely.
Yeah but it means an awful lot to an awful lot of other people. It's not just about you guys and football and different programs on TV.
People want to mourn, simple really. We can do without 1 footy match surely.
19 Billion if you believe that I genuinely worry for your sanity.Well yeah they do tbh. They bring in 19billion per year which goes into the countries coffers.
They're well worth the money. Soz if you hate them, but they're quite quite a big brand for Britain.
It was, on the face of it, seemingly arrogant behaviour. Whether there's some long held tradition behind it (or not), I have no idea. I just know I wouldn't have used the term prick. Something like "the state of that clown/idiot/fool etc". That's all I'm going to say on it. Good luck with the next few hours/days,by the way.In a different thread, in a different post, in an entirely different context, in response to what I felt was arrogant, prickish behaviour?? Strange to link the two posts several hours apart, but you do you.
We could put crowns on the seats left unoccupied.How about the people who want to mourn stay at home and those who want to go to the match go to the match?
Estimated attendance: 53400.
Is this all it takes to remove someone's post?It was, on the face of it, seemingly arrogant behaviour. Whether there's some long held tradition behind it (or not), I have no idea. I just know I wouldn't have used the term prick. Something like "the state of that clown/idiot/fool etc". That's all I'm going to say on it. Good luck with the next few hours/days,by the way.
Seat as in singular, I would bet serious money that if the game went ahead today, only a handful of people would not have attended due to "mourning"We could put crowns on the seats left unoccupied.
That particular bit of the ceremonials had never been seen by paupers before, so we will never know if it were tradition or not.It was, on the face of it, seemingly arrogant behaviour. Whether there's some long held tradition behind it (or not), I have no idea. I just know I wouldn't have used the term prick. Something like "the state of that clown/idiot/fool etc". That's all I'm going to say on it. Good luck with the next few hours/days,by the way.
It was, on the face of it, seemingly arrogant behaviour. Whether there's some long held tradition behind it (or not), I have no idea. I just know I wouldn't have used the term prick. Something like "the state of that clown/idiot/fool etc". That's all I'm going to say on it. Good luck with the next few hours/days,by the way.
19 Billion if you believe that I genuinely worry for your sanity.
Where on earth does that figure appear from??
King Charles III told the prick that put the ink wells on the table to move them quickly, that seemed to be okAh I didn't realise prick was a delete post worthy thing. I see Klopp and co called that and much worse on here all the time! A quick search shows there are an insane amount of uses of prick on here that go undeleted. Royal privileges kicking in already I guess :)
There are a certain 10 posters or so on the forum who take offence to everything, yet bleat about snowflakes and entitlement. They happen to be royalists too, so you can probably work out what has happened.Ah I didn't realise prick was a delete post worthy thing. I see Klopp and co called that and much worse on here all the time! A quick search shows there are an insane amount of uses of prick on here that go undeleted. Royal privileges kicking in already I guess :)