Chelsea Thread 2014/15

[cookster]

Mourinho claiming its all the sweeter given his club have won it despite having to deal with FFP lol.

No mention of winning whilst your direct rival had their hands and feet tied behind their backs with it eh?

Oh come on, we can't complain about FFP, having spunked away money on the likes of Willy and Ferando.

Have a look at the net spend of both clubs over the last 2 years
FFP has fuckall to do with why we are a distance behind the chavs, theve spent and sold well, our dof has wasted ours.........

With you all the way on this.

Seems strange that out manager is bleating about our rivals spending more. Maybe Manure, but not the Chavs and Arse.

 

[hertsblue]

Dirty cheating Chelsea have to dive to win a penalty which ultimately wins them the league.

AND NOT ONE WORD OF CONDENATION WAS SAID BY ANYONE.

says it all really.

Last set of fixtures sums up the season really. Dive= penalty to Chelsea. Blatant penalty= Denied to City.
But anyone who finishes 1st deserves it. They have been the most consistent team this season.

I don't know why Chelsea are shouting out FFP. Without the crazy high fees received (hazards younger brother, bought for 500k, 1 sub appearance in 2 years in cup, loaned out, contract in last year and they get 8 million for him sums it up) and Abramovich converting loans they would be in the shit. Mind you I wouldn't mind us learning off them how to get top dollar for players

 

[Castiel]

For what it's worth, I thought Hazard's was a penalty yesterday. That aside, there is no doubt Chelsea are the most mindnumbingly boring team eve to win the PL - comparing badly even with Mourinho's previous teams. And i dont see them changing much. If we can fill our obvious holes (Toure replacement, Fernando upgrade, quality winger, Clichy/Kolarov upgrade), no reason we shouldn't be right alongside if not ahead of them next year.

In the second half of the season perhaps. People have short memories. In the first half we were hands down the most expansive side on display. The problem we were having was even though we scored a lot, we were conceding too many. We had defensive vulnerabilities even the relegation candidates could expose. People here were saying as much if you care to check the gameweek threads from the time. It wasn't a problem until we were completely exposed by Spurs, then lost to Bradford in the cup. Around this period is when City pulled back our lead to only a few points. At that juncture Mourinho reigned the attacking play in so we could play with a lower block and kill games once ahead. Our lead was consequently rebuilt and we cruised home from there, though much more subdued. This coincided with player burnout since we don't rotate much, and we started to lose Costa for long stretches. Had we stuck to our guns these weaknesses could have been continuously exposed and we may not be champions now.

What I suspect he'll be looking to do this summer is to address the problems we had in defence when we tried playing a more expansive game. I think he wants to press high, win the ball in advanced positions and kill the opposition with speedy counters as we were doing before Christmas (this is how he had Madrid playing); but our defence proved they couldn't cope with it adequately. He tried to do this last season as well, and it works for a while until these issues are found out - but last season we had striker problems to compound it. Terry, as formidable as he's been, is probably a big part of the problem because he's now very slow. So he'll be looking to get the right kind of defenders in first of all. The second issue is the fact that he seems unhappy with his squad players, and too little rotation leads to burnout.

 

[SWP's back]

We did t pullback too few points.

We were level, Chelsea remained top on alphabetical order alone.

 

[bluesimon]

For what it's worth, I thought Hazard's was a penalty yesterday. That aside, there is no doubt Chelsea are the most mindnumbingly boring team eve to win the PL - comparing badly even with Mourinho's previous teams. And i dont see them changing much. If we can fill our obvious holes (Toure replacement, Fernando upgrade, quality winger, Clichy/Kolarov upgrade), no reason we shouldn't be right alongside if not ahead of them next year.

In the second half of the season perhaps. People have short memories. In the first half we were hands down the most expansive side on display. The problem we were having was even though we scored a lot, we were conceding too many. We had defensive vulnerabilities even the relegation candidates could expose. People here were saying as much if you care to check the gameweek threads from the time. It wasn't a problem until we were completely exposed by Spurs, then lost to Bradford in the cup. Around this period is when City pulled back our lead to only a few points. At that juncture Mourinho reigned the attacking play in so we could play with a lower block and kill games once ahead. Our lead was consequently rebuilt and we cruised home from there, though much more subdued. This coincided with player burnout since we don't rotate much, and we started to lose Costa for long stretches. Had we stuck to our guns these weaknesses could have been continuously exposed and we may not be champions now.

What I suspect he'll be looking to do this summer is to address the problems we had in defence when we tried playing a more expansive game. I think he wants to press high, win the ball in advanced positions and kill the opposition with speedy counters as we were doing before Christmas (this is how he had Madrid playing); but our defence proved they couldn't cope with it adequately. He tried to do this last season as well, and it works for a while until these issues are found out - but last season we had striker problems to compound it. Terry, as formidable as he's been, is probably a big part of the problem because he's now very slow. So he'll be looking to get the right kind of defenders in first of all. The second issue is the fact that he seems unhappy with his squad players, and too little rotation leads to burnout.

Have to reluctantly agree that Chelsea were great to watch in the first half of the season. As much as I despise Maureen for being such a two faced, egocentric twat, he is one of the best analysts of the game and also has great vision. He seems to be able to really analyse a problem down to the last detail and then put in place whatever is needed. He does not get it right the whole time, but he is prepared to change his game and style in order to have the best chance of getting the best result, knowing the abilities and limits of his players.

Having said that, I still get the feeling that he could have real problems in the CL. That lack of flair will always get him found out and unless he is able to get Pogba, Bale and a more expansive defence in this next window, he will struggle again. In which case, I hope he gets bored or pisses off your owner again and buggers off to manage Portugal.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

Dirty cheating Chelsea have to dive to win a penalty which ultimately wins them the league.

AND NOT ONE WORD OF CONDENATION WAS SAID BY ANYONE.

says it all really.

Last set of fixtures sums up the season really. Dive= penalty to Chelsea. Blatant penalty= Denied to City.
But anyone who finishes 1st deserves it. They have been the most consistent team this season.

I don't know why Chelsea are shouting out FFP. Without the crazy high fees received (hazards younger brother, bought for 500k, 1 sub appearance in 2 years in cup, loaned out, contract in last year and they get 8 million for him sums it up) and Abramovich converting loans they would be in the shit. Mind you I wouldn't mind us learning off them how to get top dollar for players

Didn't realize Hazards younger brother went for so much money'; Disgrace.
And that is just one of a long line of over-priced sales they have made.
Don't suppose they will ever be looked into by the powers that be.

 

[Bill]

Dirty cheating Chelsea have to dive to win a penalty which ultimately wins them the league.

AND NOT ONE WORD OF CONDENATION WAS SAID BY ANYONE.

says it all really.

Last set of fixtures sums up the season really. Dive= penalty to Chelsea. Blatant penalty= Denied to City.
But anyone who finishes 1st deserves it. They have been the most consistent team this season.

I don't know why Chelsea are shouting out FFP. Without the crazy high fees received (hazards younger brother, bought for 500k, 1 sub appearance in 2 years in cup, loaned out, contract in last year and they get 8 million for him sums it up) and Abramovich converting loans they would be in the shit. Mind you I wouldn't mind us learning off them how to get top dollar for players

Didn't realize Hazards younger brother went for so much money'; Disgrace.
And that is just one of a long line of over-priced sales they have made.
Don't suppose they will ever be looked into by the powers that be.

they will look away. mainly in our direction.

 

[J_Bow]

Neville and Carragher were chatting bollocks about Chelsea on MNF, basically for the people who missed it..

They were saying how it was Chelsea's failure as a club that no youth was coming through, as opposed to Mourinho. Dragging up the FFP numbers and screeching with excitement while ignoring obvious dubious factors eg. David Luiz deal. Claiming Chelsea can build a 'dynasty', saying Mourinho's the greatest tactical manager in the world and is successful wherever he goes (Madrid? Guardiola?), waxing lyrical about Chelsea's (month-long) outstanding football, saying it was for the entire first 4 months before showing TWO goals as examples. Ranting about the other English teams getting 'battered' in the UCL before quickly stumbling and saying 'Chelsea only lost narrowly', as if it makes it any less of a majestic failure.

Just going really over the top, as if they've just done the quadruple and won a World Cup.

 

[Castiel]

Have to reluctantly agree that Chelsea were great to watch in the first half of the season. As much as I despise Maureen for being such a two faced, egocentric twat, he is one of the best analysts of the game and also has great vision. He seems to be able to really analyse a problem down to the last detail and then put in place whatever is needed. He does not get it right the whole time, but he is prepared to change his game and style in order to have the best chance of getting the best result, knowing the abilities and limits of his players.

Having said that, I still get the feeling that he could have real problems in the CL. That lack of flair will always get him found out and unless he is able to get Pogba, Bale and a more expansive defence in this next window, he will struggle again. In which case, I hope he gets bored or pisses off your owner again and buggers off to manage Portugal.

I'm not too worried about the CL. We just had a bad campaign. Over the last 5 seasons we've been the only English team to have good campaigns and we've consistently gotten far. We're good at countering the best European sides. Against PSG we were just shit all around. The players were poor, we made the wrong tactical decisions and it wasn't executed well at all. It's unfortunate but it happens. Last season when our squad was much weaker we went toe to toe with Bayern off the back of their treble win and came seconds away from beating them in open play.

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

I'm sorry, but much of what I hear about Mourinho on the TV or read in the papers and now read on here is little more than nauseatingly eulogistic rubbish which was hitherto reserved for the latest youth prospect at the swamp. He's a successful manager but his teams are not great to watch and abandoned the attractive football Abramovitch demanded of him on appointment around, around Christmas 2013. He's actually a serial winner, but he won nothing last year at Chelsea or the season before at Real, which takes some doing. He doesn't take well to losing and as soon as the fear of not coming out on top begins to dawn he shows himself to be petty, rude and graceless. He's a tactical genius who always knows how to win, but in the run in in 2014 his team couldn't beat Norwich, Villa, Palace and Sunderland. His excuse was that his team wasn't good enough to win the title -we'd kind of worked that out up here ourselves - while the papers defended him with the novel assertion that they would have won the title had they won enough matches. Having won the title last November they're now producing trophies to give him for the PL title for the next ten years because he's sure to win them.

OK Chelsea won the title this season and any time you win it you deserve it for being the most consistent team in the country, but why are we getting the usual mob down south telling us they're one of the great teams who won it in style? They are simply nowhere near as good to watch as the team that scored a record number of goals in an English season last season.