Chief Exec News from Torygraph

twinkletoes said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
twinkletoes said:
When you tell me I'm wrong about something that confirms to me that I must be right.

When your dad, SWP's back comes to back you up then that is the icing on the cake.

He should be along shortly.

You were wrong about Balo. In fact actual real facts proved you wrong. Which means you were wrong. Im talking football now. What you believe politically or otherwise is a matter of opinion
Maybe you should tell SWP's you dont like him rather than me


I think he already knows but is he really your dad?

Really you are asking me that question? Why would i talk to my Dad on here
 
Pep is over rated. Even Dave from the pub could win the champions league with that lot
 
johnny crossan said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
The new CEO won't pick the manager. That will be done in Abu Dhabi but don't be surprised if we have a new one next season. There are some funny things going on at the moment.
expand and discuss please
Sorry - didn't mean to be mysterious but my suspicion is that Mancini will make the decision this summer (if he hasn't already done so) not the club. His body language at the moment is terrible plus his comments after the Everton game suggest a man who just wants to be somewhere else. Everyone is saying what a clever move it was to take the blame but believe me it wasn't. Plus the press stories seem to be preparing the ground for a change and that's often a reliable indicator if the right people are writing the stories.
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
The thing is, i dont think Pep is actually that good a manager and i think most people realise Dave from the pub could get that Barcelona team winning trophies

Incredibly harsh on pep, sure he is blessed with a great squad but to win 13 of 16 trophies (think thats correct) is a great achievement, especially when you consider its only his 4th full season as manager.


twinkletoes said:
Project said:
And as for Mourinho, I'm sure Khaldoon/Mansour are looking at this logically. ie would he be an improvement on Mancini? Yes he would. Would that be the case even if Mancini won the league? Yes. So what difference does it make? And I say this as a big Mancini fan.

If they think Mourinho is the best in the world and available they will take him no questions asked. Barcelona haven't been at their best but he has led Real 7 points ahead of them...and that's WITH a defeat in the 6 pointer. He has them playing some phenomenal stuff too. He's the best in the business.


Why employ a CEO that has publicly criticised Moanrinho? Recipe for disaster.

There are some quotes earlier on in this thread from the hopefully soon to be CEO, and they are not that bad. I'm sure to men who are two of the best in their professions can put quotes such as them aside and focus on a great opportunity for both of them to further enhance their reputations.

As for Mourinho, i'm prepared to back the owners whatever they choose as they haven't much wrong since they came. My own personal opinion is Mourinho is the better manager but i'd only take him if he was willing to stick around and build something and not bugger off in 2/3 years leaving us to fall into a spiral similar to chelsea. I'm more than happy to stick with Mancini as well as he's doing a great job and there are clear and encouraging signs of progression in the short space of time he's been in charge. Plus I wouldn't like to see Mario leave which would be inevitable if Mourinho was to take over.
Basically theres big positives and negatives of either decision. I still struggle to believe were talking about a former barcelona CEO and trying to decide between to coaches such as Mourinho and Mancini.
 
Project said:
And as for Mourinho, I'm sure Khaldoon/Mansour are looking at this logically. ie would he be an improvement on Mancini? Yes he would. Would that be the case even if Mancini won the league? Yes. So what difference does it make? And I say this as a big Mancini fan.

If they think Mourinho is the best in the world and available they will take him no questions asked. Barcelona haven't been at their best but he has led Real 7 points ahead of them...and that's WITH a defeat in the 6 pointer. He has them playing some phenomenal stuff too. He's the best in the business.
You win nothing in Feb an they're out in copa del rey
 
mancity1 said:
Andouble said:
johnny crossan said:
expand and discuss please

I always wonder why people post such brief potential-ITK posts like the one above. Do ITK's think that the people that read this forum will in 5 months go, 'wow I remember when _______ hinted at something like that half a year ago, I should pay closer attention to what he says in the future' ?

There is a strong consensus amongst the press that if RM doesn't land the title this season he will be gone in the summer.

Personally I think that's quite absurd and extremely short sighted and smacks of Roman A disease but who knows it might occur.

He has targets and one of them may be to land the title in his second full year in charge.

As for PB's funny things I am sure he will elaborate in this thread shortly.


The press have consistently got our owners wrong.

The biggest football story of 2008 was the ADUG takeover of City. What did the press report in the 3 months before the takeover? Not a word of it. The stories of the day, you may remember, were Barry to Liverpool (which didnt happen) and Ronalso to Real (which also didnt happen - at least not that year). Top work, newshounds.

Since the takeover, various pundits and hacks have said that City was the Sheikh's toy and he would get bored and get rid before too long. Seen what's going on around Eastlands? Ain't gonna happen.

Then the press started last season by saying Mancini would be out by Christmas. In fact, we only missed out on being top at Christmas by losing to bluedippers. The 'Mancini will win the sack race' slunk away quietly into the night, and we won our first trophy in 35 years.

Now, the story of the month is that Mourinho is falling out with Real, so guess what? That's right, City are being linked with him. But given that under RM e've been top since October and have been scoring goals for fun whilst being miserly in defence, that looks a bit stupid. So the story becomes 'RM axed unless he wins league' which makes us look like Chelsea with a bad hangover.

Any sensible appraisal of the calm, dignified, respectful humility of our owners and Abu-Dhabi based board representatives on the one hand, alongside the arrogant, brutish, sneering contempt which is Mourinho's trademark, would lead most fair minded people to think there are real questions about whether the Royal Family of Abu Dhabi and the UAE would want Mourinho as the most visible figure in their (arguably) most visible product. Mourinho, the face of the Abu Dhabi Royal Family? I don't think so.

But that doesn't stop the press.

Also, unless we have a mare for the next 3 months (no evidence to suggest that) if we don't win the league it will be because we will be pipped to the post by the rags and the rags alone: in a season in which we have had our principal striker from last season on strike, we have been hampered (still) in recruitment by the ridiculous wages we are contracted to pay to the dead wood we have not yet offloaded, we have lost key players to suspensions (unjustifiably) and ACON, and we have had two months worth of dodgy decisions. We have missed out on a probable trophy (CC) by virtue of two dodgy penalty decisions at anfield and an unjustified sending-off which meant VK was not available for the first leg.

The key word when Hughes was axed was 'trajectory'. I think the trajectory of the club since Mancini took over is clear, and I think ADUG would need exceptionally valid reasons for giving up and starting again with a fresh manager, fresh team, wholesale changes in playing staff etc if we happen to miss out on the title by three points.

Papers need to fill space to sell copies. RM out/Mourinho in is good copy.
Nothing more.
 
BillyShears said:
Project said:
And as for Mourinho, I'm sure Khaldoon/Mansour are looking at this logically. ie would he be an improvement on Mancini? Yes he would. Would that be the case even if Mancini won the league? Yes. So what difference does it make? And I say this as a big Mancini fan.

If they think Mourinho is the best in the world and available they will take him no questions asked. Barcelona haven't been at their best but he has led Real 7 points ahead of them...and that's WITH a defeat in the 6 pointer. He has them playing some phenomenal stuff too. He's the best in the business.

It's possibly the only thing which Mancini can't control and it's the one thing which I think isn't given enough credence to. If the Khaldoun and Sheikh Mansour want Mourinho, I don't think what Mancini does or doesn't achieve this season will matter.

Way that up with distinct possibility that he will be with us for two years maximum with no guarantee he be lead us to Chumps League success or the Premiership.

They may go down in folklore as the wealthiest owners that employed the man couldn't rid the curse of the bluemoon.
 
We won't get rid of Bobby at the end of this season unless Bobby wants to go. He knows he could win loads of cups with us in the next 5 years if he wants to stay.
 
Chris in London said:
mancity1 said:
Andouble said:
I always wonder why people post such brief potential-ITK posts like the one above. Do ITK's think that the people that read this forum will in 5 months go, 'wow I remember when _______ hinted at something like that half a year ago, I should pay closer attention to what he says in the future' ?

There is a strong consensus amongst the press that if RM doesn't land the title this season he will be gone in the summer.

Personally I think that's quite absurd and extremely short sighted and smacks of Roman A disease but who knows it might occur.

He has targets and one of them may be to land the title in his second full year in charge.

As for PB's funny things I am sure he will elaborate in this thread shortly.


The press have consistently got our owners wrong.

The biggest football story of 2008 was the ADUG takeover of City. What did the press report in the 3 months before the takeover? Not a word of it. The stories of the day, you may remember, were Barry to Liverpool (which didnt happen) and Ronalso to Real (which also didnt happen - at least not that year). Top work, newshounds.

Since the takeover, various pundits and hacks have said that City was the Sheikh's toy and he would get bored and get rid before too long. Seen what's going on around Eastlands? Ain't gonna happen.

Then the press started last season by saying Mancini would be out by Christmas. In fact, we only missed out on being top at Christmas by losing to bluedippers. The 'Mancini will win the sack race' slunk away quietly into the night, and we won our first trophy in 35 years.

Now, the story of the month is that Mourinho is falling out with Real, so guess what? That's right, City are being linked with him. But given that under RM e've been top since October and have been scoring goals for fun whilst being miserly in defence, that looks a bit stupid. So the story becomes 'RM axed unless he wins league' which makes us look like Chelsea with a bad hangover.

Any sensible appraisal of the calm, dignified, respectful humility of our owners and Abu-Dhabi based board representatives on the one hand, alongside the arrogant, brutish, sneering contempt which is Mourinho's trademark, would lead most fair minded people to think there are real questions about whether the Royal Family of Abu Dhabi and the UAE would want Mourinho as the most visible figure in their (arguably) most visible product. Mourinho, the face of the Abu Dhabi Royal Family? I don't think so.

But that doesn't stop the press.

Also, unless we have a mare for the next 3 months (no evidence to suggest that) if we don't win the league it will be because we will be pipped to the post by the rags and the rags alone: in a season in which we have had our principal striker from last season on strike, we have been hampered (still) in recruitment by the ridiculous wages we are contracted to pay to the dead wood we have not yet offloaded, we have lost key players to suspensions (unjustifiably) and ACON, and we have had two months worth of dodgy decisions. We have missed out on a probable trophy (CC) by virtue of two dodgy penalty decisions at anfield and an unjustified sending-off which meant VK was not available for the first leg.

The key word when Hughes was axed was 'trajectory'. I think the trajectory of the club since Mancini took over is clear, and I think ADUG would need exceptionally valid reasons for giving up and starting again with a fresh manager, fresh team, wholesale changes in playing staff etc if we happen to miss out on the title by three points.

Papers need to fill space to sell copies. RM out/Mourinho in is good copy.
Nothing more.

Good read and well articulated Chris. Couldn't agree with you more. People tend to forget the ADUG are long-term business men, they've met RM and stay in touch with him. They like him and they will stay with him title or no title (close 2nd if the latter), no matter.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
johnny crossan said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
The new CEO won't pick the manager. That will be done in Abu Dhabi but don't be surprised if we have a new one next season. There are some funny things going on at the moment.
expand and discuss please
Sorry - didn't mean to be mysterious but my suspicion is that Mancini will make the decision this summer (if he hasn't already done so) not the club. His body language at the moment is terrible plus his comments after the Everton game suggest a man who just wants to be somewhere else. Everyone is saying what a clever move it was to take the blame but believe me it wasn't. Plus the press stories seem to be preparing the ground for a change and that's often a reliable indicator if the right people are writing the stories.

I think he has been suffering from the dreaded lurgy , in recent times , the cold snap and all , he couldn't stop sniffling after the home win on Saturday.

Apparantly he is very close to his father and he is not well , he was present for one of games this season and no doubt this is what worries Mancini the most.

Even though he left home at 15 , his father is his mentor and confidant.

The British press don't worry him because he hardly understands their lame questions anyway and in anycase gives the same answer to each one no matter what he thinks is asked.

The only thing that interests me in his interviews is if he is giving an update on injuries and often in these cases he is off the mark to what actually ocurs anyway come the next match.

He will see out his contract unless the owners decide to act otherwise even preytel should his father pass away in the meantime.
 

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