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[Chris in London]

Mourinho is massively hyped up by the British press, and we are all influenced by it.

ADUG don't read much of the British press, and I can't think of any other egomaniacs who hold high profile positions in Abu Dhabi.

Lets get it right, Mourinho IS the most successful football manager of the last decade. So any and all hype is clearly not without significant justification. Same applies for his ego. And i'm not going to even bother getting into the fucking truly gargantuan ego which Roberto possesses!

Too much lazy logic in trying to argue that Mourinho isn't the right guy for ADUG without once mentioning his vast achievements.

Nothing lazy about it at all and it isn't intended to be a logical analysis, it's an opinion on an internet forum. And whether you agree with it or not, my opinion (FWIW) is that they wouldn't take Mourinho for the same reasons they wouldn't take Baconface, despite his achievements. ADUG want success, don't we all, but I just don't think they will compromise on their own principles by hiring someone as arrogant as Mourinho. Guardiola, to name one, maybe a different matter.

RM might have an ego the size of a planet. He doesn't slap it on the table at the beginning of a press conference they way Mourinho does. Or did RM call himself the really special one in a press conference I must have missed? It's the arrogance of Mourinho which I think ADUG wouldn't want fronting one of their high-vis operations.

 

[Dave S]

Mourinho is massively hyped up by the British press, and we are all influenced by it.

ADUG don't read much of the British press, and I can't think of any other egomaniacs who hold high profile positions in Abu Dhabi.

Lets get it right, Mourinho IS the most successful football manager of the last decade. So any and all hype is clearly not without significant justification. Same applies for his ego. And i'm not going to even bother getting into the fucking truly gargantuan ego which Roberto possesses!

Too much lazy logic in trying to argue that Mourinho isn't the right guy for ADUG without once mentioning his vast achievements.

Nothing lazy about it at all and it isn't intended to be a logical analysis, it's an opinion on an internet forum. And whether you agree with it or not, my opinion (FWIW) is that they wouldn't take Mourinho for the same reasons they wouldn't take Baconface, despite his achievements. ADUG want success, don't we all, but I just don't think they will compromise on their own principles by hiring someone as arrogant as Mourinho. Guardiola, to name one, maybe a different matter.

RM might have an ego the size of a planet. He doesn't slap it on the table at the beginning of a press conference they way Mourinho does. Or did RM call himself the really special one in a press conference I must have missed? It's the arrogance of Mourinho which I think ADUG wouldn't want fronting one of their high-vis operations.

Absolutely spot on! Of course we all want to win things - but at what cost? Wheeling the self-styled 'special one' in would be a huge mistake IMO.

 

[Anonymous]

Mourinho is massively hyped up by the British press, and we are all influenced by it.

ADUG don't read much of the British press, and I can't think of any other egomaniacs who hold high profile positions in Abu Dhabi.

Lets get it right, Mourinho IS the most successful football manager of the last decade. So any and all hype is clearly not without significant justification. Same applies for his ego. And i'm not going to even bother getting into the fucking truly gargantuan ego which Roberto possesses!

Too much lazy logic in trying to argue that Mourinho isn't the right guy for ADUG without once mentioning his vast achievements.

Nothing lazy about it at all and it isn't intended to be a logical analysis, it's an opinion on an internet forum. And whether you agree with it or not, my opinion (FWIW) is that they wouldn't take Mourinho for the same reasons they wouldn't take Baconface, despite his achievements. ADUG want success, don't we all, but I just don't think they will compromise on their own principles by hiring someone as arrogant as Mourinho. Guardiola, to name one, maybe a different matter.

RM might have an ego the size of a planet. He doesn't slap it on the table at the beginning of a press conference they way Mourinho does. Or did RM call himself the really special one in a press conference I must have missed? It's the arrogance of Mourinho which I think ADUG wouldn't want fronting one of their high-vis operations.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Mourinho, Pep, Mancini.... possibly three of the biggest egos in the world of football management. How that ego manifests itself for me would never come before who is the best person to win trophies for City. I personally think it would be hugely remiss of any owner to turn their nose up at a prospective manager simply because his public persona was one of brutish arrogance. I'd be more interested in what the players who played under him think of him and as I say, what his track record is.

FWIW I think PB in his previous post has inadvertently spelled out why I think Mourinho won't ever be City manager .... he wouldn't have 100% control over transfer policy.<br /><br />-- Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:39 pm --<br /><br />

No he isn't but he is the biggest egomaniac though, Pep Guardiola claim 13 from a possible 16 trophies, wining Coach of the year award and rightly so ahead oh him and slr fungus

Haha. Ok. I give in. Mourinho has the biggest ego in world football and therefore he should never be City manager.

 

[CityBuzzin]

Lets get it right, Mourinho IS the most successful football manager of the last decade. So any and all hype is clearly not without significant justification. Same applies for his ego. And i'm not going to even bother getting into the fucking truly gargantuan ego which Roberto possesses!

Too much lazy logic in trying to argue that Mourinho isn't the right guy for ADUG without once mentioning his vast achievements.

Nothing lazy about it at all and it isn't intended to be a logical analysis, it's an opinion on an internet forum. And whether you agree with it or not, my opinion (FWIW) is that they wouldn't take Mourinho for the same reasons they wouldn't take Baconface, despite his achievements. ADUG want success, don't we all, but I just don't think they will compromise on their own principles by hiring someone as arrogant as Mourinho. Guardiola, to name one, maybe a different matter.

RM might have an ego the size of a planet. He doesn't slap it on the table at the beginning of a press conference they way Mourinho does. Or did RM call himself the really special one in a press conference I must have missed? It's the arrogance of Mourinho which I think ADUG wouldn't want fronting one of their high-vis operations.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Mourinho, Pep, Mancini.... possibly three of the biggest egos in the world of football management. How that ego manifests itself for me would never come before who is the best person to win trophies for City. I personally think it would be hugely remiss of any owner to turn their nose up at a prospective manager simply because his public persona was one of brutish arrogance. I'd be more interested in what the players who played under him think of him and as I say, what his track record is.

FWIW I think PB in his previous post has inadvertently spelled out why I think Mourinho won't ever be City manager .... he wouldn't have 100% control over transfer policy.

-- Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:39 pm --

No he isn't but he is the biggest egomaniac though, Pep Guardiola claim 13 from a possible 16 trophies, wining Coach of the year award and rightly so ahead oh him and slr fungus

Haha. Ok. I give in. Mourinho has the biggest ego in world football and therefore he should never be City manager.

Correct

 

[Anonymous]

Correct

BTW .... what was your previous username and did you get a permaban or did you just decide it was time for a new image?

 

[CityBuzzin]

Correct

BTW .... what was your previous username and did you get a permaban or did you just decide it was time for a new image?

Why would you wanna know

 

[Anonymous]

Correct

BTW .... what was your previous username and did you get a permaban or did you just decide it was time for a new image?

Why would you wanna know

Much obliged.

 

[Andouble]

I for one wouldn't want Mourhino anywhere near City. No ifs or but's.

I'm the same to be fair, you know he'll win you trophies but in two years he'll want to move on. With RM, if he's given the time, the money & the support he could be here for then next 8 years or more. Stability is key, you only have to look in to Trafford or at the Gooners to see that.

Leaving after 2 or 3 seasons but winning trophies seems like a fair trade-off. He says he wants to be at his next club for more than a few seasons, the only thing that would really get me going is if he managed us for 2 years then went to the rags after whiskeynose calls it a day. Mourinho doesn't seem to be the kind of guy who wouldn't mind crossing the divide like that.

The smoothest way any of this works, IMO, is if we win the league, Mancini wants to leave on his own accord, to be with his dad or be back in Italy or go back to Italian football etc etc, and he rides off into the sunset as one of the finest legends to ever grace MCFC.

 

[edgecroft]

Cabal will never give it up, no matter how many times they're proven wrong.

Silly men!

 

[TTS]

Good read and well articulated Chris. Couldn't agree with you more. People tend to forget the ADUG are long-term business men, they've met RM and stay in touch with him. They like him and they will stay with him title or no title (close 2nd if the latter), no matter.

Cheers, SS.

One thing I didn't factor in, though, was whether RM himself wanted out, as PB hints.

And that could be down to something as simple as wanting to be back in Italy near his father or because he's unhappy with the set-up at City, where he doesn't and never will have the full control he wants. I've worked in a management structure like that, where two people or groups of people have to make key decisions. One tends to be strategic and one tactical or operational. It can generate a lot of tension as the operational guys tend to want to do things quickly or that generate new business whereas the strategic guys take a longer view and may be unhappy with the degree of risk involved. In the end, you get decisions that are better for the long term future of the company.

That's the way I believe City operate, with the suits like Marwood deciding the transfer strategy, with Mancini having a say but ultimately being responsible primarily for the coaching. If he really hates that set-up then he may feel he's better off somewhere he can have full control over the playing side.

So we have 2 reasons to leave City cited here, highlighted in bold. And you're probably spot-on with them - I'm sure Mancini has felt frustration on both counts.

However, they're inconsistent, no? The last place that you'd get full control is in Serie A; they're up to their eyeballs in technical coaches and interfering owners.

Another point to consider is that Mancini has repeatedly stated that he prefers the lower level of media scrutiny here compared to Italy. Not saying that it's decisive, but it should be factored in to the discussion.