Child and father found dead in Skegness

[Corky]

If they weren't known to Children's or Adults' there would be no one checking anything. So to stop it happening again is impossible. It is a strange and tragic one.

 

[city2]

Where was the mother in this tragic case ?

 

[Bettys Bell]

Absolutely heartbreaking

 

[blueinsa]

Heartbreaking and appalling.

“Lessons will be learned…blah,blah,blah”

 

[ell]

The social worker tried to visit and contacted police on both 02/01 and 04/01, she managed to gain access to the property via the landlord on 09/01

Absolutely heartbreaking story

 

[Dirty Harry]

I’ve probably been too quick to judge, I can be too cynical at times.

I think you have mate, but fair play for responding in the way you have, I had a friend who was in charge of the Child Protection Services for the kids in extreme danger in Wales, he’d often tell me about his, and his staffs caseloads, they were horrendous, and all with the most at risk families too.
They may make mistakes, there may be a few lazy fuckers, most are some of the most hard working and dedicated professionals I’ve known, but like most things, their numbers are dwindling to such an extent it’s beyond covering it with a sticking plaster, or even a bandage.

 

[BrianW]

I don't think most 'ordinary' people have a clue about how some households are.

One of my wife's second cousins is a complete airhead. At one point she was married to a waster who played video games all day. Someone gave them a bed for the kids, but for some weird reason he smashed it up and the kids had to sleep on the floor.

When that 'relationship' ended, she promptly took on a literal paedophile, and her kids were taken off her. This was her choice! She picked the paedo over her own kids!

I don't have owt to do with the sick woman, though she is probably in some kind of mental health category. I think she has since broken up with paedo, but where the kids are I'm less sure.

This is not 'inner-city' and they are white 'Christians'. They live in a country town.

That's just one case I know of, and I bet there are plenty worse.

 

[hammocity]

Just read the story, what that little boy went through is horrific...sounds like cops are to blame here though, it was reported to them twice a few days apart. Sounds like they didn't give a fuck.

I can’t speak for them all but some clearly don’t give two shits.

There was a lovely Asian family (mum, dad and teenager) who lived at the top of the Avenue where my house is. My late Dad lived next door but one to them.

Over a period of a couple of years things went TU, the Dad lost his job and started drinking heavily, whisky mostly, after a while he told me he was getting divorced as his wife had had enough. It wasn’t a surprise as the Police were there nearly every week to calm him down as he went into a rant in the house. The final straw came when he turned the gas on in his kitchen and stood in there holding a box of matches, his wife got the Police out again and all the neighbours (including my Dad who was 87) were evacuated. The issue managed to be resolved and no one was hurt.

The next week the Police were back again, as they were arresting him I was at my Dad’s so I went outside to talk to a WPC, she was aware of his history so I asked why don’t the Police get Social Services or Alcohol abuse specialists to see him to try and help not just him but the wife and kid as well. She said “ it’s nothing to do with us, we just attend when asked”. As I tried to put a different viewpoint over she just told me she wasn’t going to get involved and had absolutely zero interest in helping him.

Funnily enough my mate bought the house after the family left, it’s got a huge back garden that was unkempt, my mate was still finding whisky bottles a good few months after he moved in, mostly whilst sorting the garden out but also in the loft, shed and even under the floorboards, very sad.

 

[hammocity]

I’ve probably been too quick to judge, I can be too cynical at times. But I think I read that there was at least 5 days before the police forced entry. Gutted for the family, but i always find myself shaking my head at the police and social services.But yes im still a twat.

Na, it was unfair to call you that, absolutely no need for it.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Which Tory mp/social worker/ police officer said that?

It's the default for when shite hits the ceiling apparatus, and experience tells us that the lesson has been confined to the dustbin and nowt has been learned.