Christian Bale - stealth comic thread

[TheMightyQuinn]

Bigga and Blue Knight are nerds! :)

But you're both kinda right. Batman spent a long time training and seeking answers remember, his discipline and single mindedness are traits he shares with the joker.

Knight is right in so much that Batman is a much deeper character than the joker, if only by virtue of having been subject to much more characterisation over the years whilst Bigga is right in so much that Batman and the Joker are essentially 2 sides of the same coin.

 

[stonerblue]

He's an Actor for fucks sake. I fail to see what's so brilliant about him.

 

[Bigga]

Bigga and Blue Knight are nerds! :)

But you're both kinda right. Batman spent a long time training and seeking answers remember, his discipline and single mindedness are traits he shares with the joker.

Knight is right in so much that Batman is a much deeper character than the joker, if only by virtue of having been subject to much more characterisation over the years whilst Bigga is right in so much that Batman and the Joker are essentially 2 sides of the same coin.

So why don't you just say I'm right, then?

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Bigga and Blue Knight are nerds! :)

But you're both kinda right. Batman spent a long time training and seeking answers remember, his discipline and single mindedness are traits he shares with the joker.

Knight is right in so much that Batman is a much deeper character than the joker, if only by virtue of having been subject to much more characterisation over the years whilst Bigga is right in so much that Batman and the Joker are essentially 2 sides of the same coin.

So why don't you just say I'm right, then?

You're both right, but I'm even righter cos I spotted this fact.

 

[Main Stand Hotdog]

Firstly, trouble reading?

Bigga is right in so much that Batman and the Joker are essentially 2 sides of the same coin.

So why don't you just say I'm right, then?

Secondly apologies cos i didn't make myself very clear, what i was contesting was the statement:

The Joker outshines Bats even in the comics/ graphic novels.

I simply feel you dismissed bats and his character all to easily with this statement. I have a stack of batman comics where the Joker has minor roles and occasionally the character is portrayed as a pathetic down and out, who briefly hinders batman whilst he is on the trail to bigger things.

In early editions the Joker was a simple menace and not the raging psychopath he has become in recent years.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Firstly, trouble reading?

Bigga is right in so much that Batman and the Joker are essentially 2 sides of the same coin.

So why don't you just say I'm right, then?

Secondly apologies cos i didn't make myself very clear, what i was contesting was the statement:

The Joker outshines Bats even in the comics/ graphic novels.

I simply feel you dismissed bats and his character all to easily with this statement. I have a stack of batman comics where the Joker has minor roles and occasionally the character is portrayed as a pathetic down and out, who briefly hinders batman whilst he is on the trail to bigger things.

In early editions the Joker was a simple menace and not the raging psychopath he has become in recent years.

He's right Bigga.

 

[Bigga]

Firstly, trouble reading?

Bigga is right in so much that Batman and the Joker are essentially 2 sides of the same coin.

So why don't you just say I'm right, then?

Secondly apologies cos i didn't make myself very clear, what i was contesting was the statement:

The Joker outshines Bats even in the comics/ graphic novels.

I simply feel you dismissed bats and his character all to easily with this statement. I have a stack of batman comics where the Joker has minor roles and occasionally the character is portrayed as a pathetic down and out, who briefly hinders batman whilst he is on the trail to bigger things.

In early editions the Joker was a simple menace and not the raging psychopath he has become in recent years.

He's right Bigga.

*big yawn*

Try READING what I posted. If you DID, you would note that I mentioned Burton and Nolan's Bats is the re-booted version via Frank Miller's eyes. That is "The Dark Knight Returns", "Batman: Year One", etc. MUCH more interesting angle in his psychological profiling than the Batman, in tights simply running after the 'clown'.
In re-booting Joker too, we have a genuine nemesis, who's chaotic world is hard for Bats to understand. Yet, the ongoing humour is to study Bruce/ Bats' case of schizophrenia ("2. a state characterised by the coexistence of contradictory or incompatible elements.) and his depressive state that allows him NOT to bond with the people close to him.

This is more than 'comics' er, Blue Knight, it's a character study. Joker wears his chaos on the outside free of the 'fight', where Wayne internalises his and battles it forever.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Firstly, trouble reading?

Bigga is right in so much that Batman and the Joker are essentially 2 sides of the same coin.

So why don't you just say I'm right, then?

Secondly apologies cos i didn't make myself very clear, what i was contesting was the statement:

The Joker outshines Bats even in the comics/ graphic novels.

I simply feel you dismissed bats and his character all to easily with this statement. I have a stack of batman comics where the Joker has minor roles and occasionally the character is portrayed as a pathetic down and out, who briefly hinders batman whilst he is on the trail to bigger things.

In early editions the Joker was a simple menace and not the raging psychopath he has become in recent years.

He's right Bigga.

*big yawn*

Try READING what I posted. If you DID, you would note that I mentioned Burton and Nolan's Bats is the re-booted version via Frank Miller's eyes. That is "The Dark Knight Returns", "Batman: Year One", etc. MUCH more interesting angle in his psychological profiling than the Batman, in tights simply running after the 'clown'.
In re-booting Joker too, we have a genuine nemesis, who's chaotic world is hard for Bats to understand. Yet, the ongoing humour is to study Bruce/ Bats' case of schizophrenia ("2. a state characterised by the coexistence of contradictory or incompatible elements.) and his depressive state that allows him NOT to bond with the people close to him.

This is more than 'comics' er, Blue Knight, it's a character study. Joker wears his chaos on the outside free of the 'fight', where Wayne internalises his and battles it forever.

You make some good points Big man but I'm not convinced, we're all talking at cross purposes it seems.

 

[Bigga]

Splinters in your arse from that fence, eh, TMQ?

 

[Banned Tosspot]

He's an Actor for fucks sake. I fail to see what's so brilliant about him.

Change Bale for Marley and actor for singer.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Splinters in your arse from that fence, eh, TMQ?

Not at all, you both made valid points.

The one thing I can never be accused of Bigga is being scared to fly against popular opinion and take on all comers. Remember the outrage I provoked over Churchill?

 

[Bigga]

So, instead of agreeing with points, formulate your own based on what you know.

That way, I'll know you don't take the fence with you when you walk.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

So, instead of agreeing with points, formulate your own based on what you know.

That way, I'll know you don't take the fence with you when you walk.

You had both sides of the argument covered to be honest hence why I walked in to point this out.

 

[Bigga]

So... hard... to... pull.. out... the.. feeence!!!

Basically, for you to agree with Blue K you're saying that Bats always outshines Joker in character, yet you agree with me, that it's the other way round?

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

So... hard... to... pull.. out... the.. feeence!!!

Basically, for you to agree with Blue K you're saying that Bats always outshines Joker in character, yet you agree with me, that it's the other way round?

No! You are both talking about different eras and mediums so therefore you are both as right and wrong as each other!

Why would I sit on the fence? Prior to this last week I havent interacted in with Knight at all so I feel no loyalty to him in anyway and I've never had a problem agreeing or disagreeing with you in the past so why would I start now!

 

[Banned Tosspot]

We need a Dennis the Menace thread.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

We need a Dennis the Menace thread.

You see Bigga, you're busting my balls when we have lads like this just asking to be taken down a peg or two?

 

[Banned Tosspot]

We need a Dennis the Menace thread.

You see Bigga, you're busting my balls when we have lads like this just asking to be taken down a peg or two?

I'm glad you two are such good friends.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

We need a Dennis the Menace thread.

You see Bigga, you're busting my balls when we have lads like this just asking to be taken down a peg or two?

I'm glad you two are such good friends.

Friends? We dont really know each other. I quite like Bigga, he's difficult but he's sound generally and I know he rates me as a free thinking menace so it's all good.

 

[Main Stand Hotdog]

Firstly, trouble reading?

Bigga is right in so much that Batman and the Joker are essentially 2 sides of the same coin.

So why don't you just say I'm right, then?

Secondly apologies cos i didn't make myself very clear, what i was contesting was the statement:

The Joker outshines Bats even in the comics/ graphic novels.

I simply feel you dismissed bats and his character all to easily with this statement. I have a stack of batman comics where the Joker has minor roles and occasionally the character is portrayed as a pathetic down and out, who briefly hinders batman whilst he is on the trail to bigger things.

In early editions the Joker was a simple menace and not the raging psychopath he has become in recent years.

He's right Bigga.

*big yawn*

Try READING what I posted. If you DID, you would note that I mentioned Burton and Nolan's Bats is the re-booted version via Frank Miller's eyes. That is "The Dark Knight Returns", "Batman: Year One", etc. MUCH more interesting angle in his psychological profiling than the Batman, in tights simply running after the 'clown'.
In re-booting Joker too, we have a genuine nemesis, who's chaotic world is hard for Bats to understand. Yet, the ongoing humour is to study Bruce/ Bats' case of schizophrenia ("2. a state characterised by the coexistence of contradictory or incompatible elements.) and his depressive state that allows him NOT to bond with the people close to him.

This is more than 'comics' er, Blue Knight, it's a character study. Joker wears his chaos on the outside free of the 'fight', where Wayne internalises his and battles it forever.

Christ did you read what you wrote?

The Joker outshines Bats even in the comics/ graphic novels.

See that. 'COMICS' you said it. I took that to mean that you were talking about ALL Batman comics. What you didn't say is that you're pretty much only refering to the Frank Miller take on Batman, 'Year one' and 'TDK Returns'. But there are so many different takes on Batman and you seem to be only refering to those series.

I realise your more of a fan of the darker and down to earth Bats stories which i also enjoy, but as a child I enjoyed the fantasy series just as much and still do.






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