City Announces Global Partnership with Viagogo

Sadly it's the price of success. We all wish it wasn't but it is. The alternative is having an owner/chairman like Peter Swales, cheaper tickets and zero success. Many of us on here have experienced both. Although the 35 years of mediocrity, the pain of relegations and highs of promotions were character building and at times a blast, I certainly wouldn't swap them for the incredible football I've witnessed and trophy haul we've achieved in the last 14 years.

Football with it's ridiculous financial rules to meet and hoops to jump through to achieve those rules have contributed to rising ticket prices for every club. We're sadly probably stuck with this now and only a return to mediocrity again will lower the prices.
It’s not the price of success at all. You’re picking extreme alternatives.

We could easily have affordable tickets and more corporate/ expensive seating.

What is the point of all this success if the actual fans can’t afford to go to the games? In the next 35 years - the next generation won’t be watching city regularly.

This is on the club and we shouldn’t bend over and accept it!
 
They won't all be tourist and what is a tourist? A season ticket holder from Norwich? 400 rooms is nothing when there are 61.000 in the stadium.
There won't always be 62,000 people in the stadium for every match. And the hotel won't always be full. Most hotels in the city centre are never always full, especially during the week.
 
No, it's not the price of success. People keep on posting that.

As well as being succesful, MANSOUR and his directors could have treated the fans differently, and the club still could have been successful. But instead, after being successful, our owner and his directors began taking the fans for granted, and began treating the fans like shit, only being concerned about revenues and making money.

Remember MANSOUR's and Khaldoon's hollow words about how important the fans are/were to both of them? As it turns out, it was all PR bullshit, and they lied to us, but we didn't know that at the time. We do now.

Again reread my post, clubs are having to increase prices to meet the ridiculous constraints the so called fair play rules give them. That's every club not just us. As the most successful of the last few years we can keep raising ours as the demand for tickets is high. That allows us to go and spend 200+ million in January to try and arrest a disastrous season so far by our standards. We will no doubt spend at least that amount again in the summer. Sure there is an element of greed involved too, of milking the golden cow, but unless we have a few more seasons like this one it sadly won't change.
 
Before this announcement we already had eight official ticket reseller partners. What do Viagogo bring to the table that the others can’t and will this mean we can reduce the number of partners in this sector. If I was one of the eight I would be asking why does this company generate an announcement when to the best of my knowledge the others didn’t. Are they receiving something the others aren’t?

They tap into the people who can't afford/don't want a hotel room included. More aimed at the folk who'd happily pay £100 for a ticket to a really important game, like away fans

Where as the original 8 do the high end work, these lot do big numbers hence why they're coming on board before the big north stand white elephant opens
 
It’s not the price of success at all. You’re picking extreme alternatives.

We could easily have affordable tickets and more corporate/ expensive seating.

What is the point of all this success if the actual fans can’t afford to go to the games? In the next 35 years - the next generation won’t be watching city regularly.

This is on the club and we shouldn’t bend over and accept it!

I'm not, nor am I happy about it but if you don't think success plays a part in it you and the others shouting it doesn't are deluded.
 
The fact is that locals and season ticket holders will not be filling the 400 rooms in the new Radisson 'medlock' hotel.
It's the day trippers and half and half crowd that make that a viable business.
I don't think many 'legacy' fans have issues with new fans or day tripper coming, getting behind the team and adding to the vibe.
(except when they get away tickets easily)

that is a different issue to signing a partnership with a bunch of ticket touting cunts or selling home tickets to away fans
 
Again reread my post, clubs are having to increase prices to meet the ridiculous constraints the so called fair play rules give them. That's every club not just us. As the most successful of the last few years we can keep raising ours as the demand for tickets is high. That allows us to go and spend 200+ million in January to try and arrest a disastrous season so far by our standards. We will no doubt spend at least that amount again in the summer. Sure there is an element of greed involved too, of milking the golden cow, but unless we have a few more seasons like this one it sadly won't change.
They aren't. The clubs would have increased season ticket and match day ticket prices anyway. And are doing.

The clubs voted for FFP & PRS so they knew what was coming. You don't vote for something and not understand what it will do to you financially. The people running clubs aren't Turkeys at Christmas. These people are billionaires. They own and run multi-national businesses. They run Governments. They employ some of the best business minds in football and in finance. Stop making excuses for these people. They know exactly what they are doing. And what they are doing is well thought out, calculated, and deliberate.
 
I don't think many 'legacy' fans have issues with new fans or day tripper coming, getting behind the team and adding to the vibe.
(except when they get away tickets easily)

that is a different issue to signing a partnership with a bunch of ticket touting cunts or selling home tickets to away fans

I remember we were in partnership with them a few years ago. If I couldn't attend a game I could list my ticket on their site. There was a sliding scale on what I could put it up for sale for. You could make a few bob extra if it was a derby game or another high profile one. The club obviously decided they could do the same themselves. So if a season ticket holder who's got a reduced price senior citizen account lists his ticket the club make a decent killing on it.
 
The club are walking all over the fans.

5 reps who didn’t join the strike should now do so in my opinion

Kevin Parker from the OSC said we decided not to boycott because we are on the ticketing sub committee and we thought if the club want to speak about important ticket changes we should be part of it.

They have made an important ticket change and bypassed the sub committee.

The reps that are too close to the club need to actually side with the fans now
 
Before this announcement we already had eight official ticket reseller partners. What do Viagogo bring to the table that the others can’t and will this mean we can reduce the number of partners in this sector. If I was one of the eight I would be asking why does this company generate an announcement when to the best of my knowledge the others didn’t. Are they receiving something the others aren’t?
Viagogo bring the most publicised and ridiculed price increases of any tickets tout company, going back 13 years. They’re a fucking terrible company.

(2012) https://www.channel4.com/press/news/dispatches-defeats-high-court-injunction-attempt-viagogo

(2018) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...o-legal-action-ripping-customers-tickets.html

(2024) https://www.theguardian.com/busines...carrying-on-ticketing-despite-the-controversy

City should come out to this song against Leicester next week:

 
'This multi-year agreement will see hospitality tickets from the Club’s existing hospitality allocation for men’s home fixtures and tickets for women’s fixtures made available directly on viagogo’s platform'.

How long before we see away tickets listed?
How I despise Viagogo.ticket touting of the highest order.
 
Another day, another example of CFG not giving a flying fuck. I am particularly proud that our magnificent club has partnered with this exceptional business, as other than a replacement for KDB this summer, the fans have been crying out for yet another partnership with a fucking ticket tout operation.

After all, this story from 2019 is probably just another UEFA/Premier League anti-City conspiracy;

"The UK government, through the Competition and Markets Authority (CMA), has taken action against Viagogo, a secondary ticket marketplace, over concerns about consumer protection and compliance with the law, including securing a court order and pursuing further legal action for non-compliance."

Jesus Fucking Christ.

I was just saying the other day to Harvey, who sits next to me in CBL3 (we used to sit together in the Main Stand at Maine Road), we just don't get enough tourists these days. They make for such a cracking atmosphere, and I particularly enjoyed the three Real Madrid fans that sat behind us, resplendent is their white shirts. I am delighted that more of these folks can now join me for the pre-game laser show whilst they hurry in from the Club Shop with their bags of City tat.

Thank goodness all those grumpy old legacy fans have fucked off, with their constant signing, network of mates and generational support for City - I mean, what do they think we are? A local century-old essential part of the fabric of Manchester? I don't understand why they all got so upset when we printed the lyrics of 'Blue Moon' and 'Come on City' in the programme, so everyone could join in? And surely £2500 a season to secure your plastic seat for each home game, or £10,000 for our new 'Platinum' scheme, which comes with a free night at the new hotel with your player of choice, represents good value?

Best of all, as part of my season ticket, I now get executive seats at any of the other CFG clubs - cant wait to watch Shenzeng Peng FC 'Come on you Pengers!'...
 
It isn't.
Tourist pay over the odds.
Local fans get forced out.
End result.
Ground full of twats.
And a shit atmosphere

Remember the charity shield game a few years ago when the majority of our regular fans boycotted it in protest? It sold out still but the atmosphere was so bad the players commented on it and were constantly trying to gee the crowd up. That will be the future if we're not careful.
 
It isn't.
Tourist pay over the odds.
Local fans get forced out.
End result.
Ground full of twats.
And a shit atmosphere
That's bollocks. with a 61000 capacity there is room for most regular City fans and room for tourists.Tourist aren't twats, i'd say most City fans have been football tourists at times. and if the atmosphere is shit blame 50,000 city fans not the few tourist. Whenever I go tourists seem to join in more than a fair few of the miserable S'/C holders sat around me.
 

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