City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

I think some of us should read the FFP regulations again, but more closely this time. You'll find that Annexe 47, clause 108, sub section 46, amendment 17 clearly states that "bungs, bribes, backhanders, pots de vin" will only count as "investment in infrastructure" if they are not delivered by hand in brown envelopes but are rather transferred electronically to numbered bank accounts in Sw****land. Special regulations, included in an unpublished codex, apply to teams from England playing normally in sky blue shirts. U**A reserve the right to change these secret regulations after consultation with our advisers in Florida and Munich.

 

[jrb]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

You've just got to love Arsenal fans. They feel that aggrieved by Manchester City and what the club has done and won over the last 5-6 years that they just can't let their hatred of City go.

They really have taken it personally. It's like they view everything that has happened at City as a personal attack against their club, fanned by their owners and Wenger. Their only solace is their on-going and personal FFPR campaign against City.(and now PSG)

Remember, this is the club that spent £42.4 on signing Ozil. A transfer fee bigger than any signed off by Sheikh Mansour and City. A club that has the highest season ticket and matchday ticket prices in the PL and probably Europe.(bar Real Madrid and Barcelona?) A club that charges some of the highest away ticket prices in the PL. But you'll never hear Wenger or Arsenal fans mentioning that. And then there's the land around their new stadium. Instead of giving it back to the local community and building community facilities on it, they sold the land to a property developer, who in turn built apartments on it, valued around £325,000 and over.

This is how a properly run club treats it's own fans and the local community.

Another bitter rant by an Arsenal fan. Note the bold and highlighted sections.

Good news Arsenal as UEFA get tougher with FFP


This entry was posted in Arsenal Financial News, Arsenal News, Arsenal NewsNow, Arsenal Transfer News and tagged Man City, Platini, PSG, Wenger on June 8, 2014 by Bob.

Towards the end of last season, Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger finally seemed to be vindicated over his financially stable way of running the Gunners. We heard that a number of clubs around Europe were set to face sanctions after breaking the Financial Fair Play rules, chief among them being Man City and PSG.

Great, we thought, now maybe these crazy transfer prices can calm down a bit and perhaps Arsenal could actually sign some of the players we wanted to without some other big time charlie coming along and outbidding us. But this feeling of optimism did not last long, as the Abu-Dhabi based owners of City, and the Qatari group in charge of PSG just carried on as if nothing had happened.

The City board made a statement vowing to continue to sign the players they wanted, while PSG basically stuck two fingers up to UEFA and agreed the £50 million transfer of David Luiz from Chelsea. Maybe Wenger was right to suggest that the sanctions were not strong enough, and now Michel Platini seems to agree. A report in the Daily Mail reveals that the French chief of European football’s governing body is now ready to ban repeat offenders from the Champions League, a move that will surely get their attention more than just having their squad numbers reduced.

But will Platini’s plans really have an effect for Arsenal in the summer transfer window?

Talk about a self-obsessed article. Perhaps Arsenal, this, perhaps Arsenal that. Anyone would think football and football transfers are run for the good of Arsenal football club and their needs.

The comments below the article by Arsenal fans are priceless. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.justarsenal.com/good-news-arsenal-as-uefa-get-tougher-with-ffp/33078" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.justarsenal.com/good-news-ar ... -ffp/33078</a>

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

You've just got to love Arsenal fans. They feel that aggrieved by Manchester City and what the club has done and won over the last 5-6 years, that they just can't let their hatred of City go.

They really have taken it personally. It's like they view everything that has happened at City as a personal attack against their club, fanned by their owners and Wenger. Their only solace is their on-going and personal FFPR campaign against City.(and now PSG)

Remember, this is the club that spent £42.4 on signing Ozil. A transfer fee bigger than any signed off by Sheikh Mansour and City. A club that has the highest season ticket and matchday ticket prices in the PL and probably Europe.(bar Real Madrid and Barcelona?) A club that charges some of the highest away ticket prices in the PL. But you'll never hear Wenger or Arsenal fans mentioning that. And then there's the land around their new stadium. Instead of giving it back to the local community and building community facilities on it, they sold the land to a property developer, who in turn built apartments on it, valued around £325,000 and over.

This is how a properly run club treats it's own fans and the local community.

Another bitter rant by an Arsenal fan. Note the bold and highlighted sections.

Good news Arsenal as UEFA get tougher with FFP


This entry was posted in Arsenal Financial News, Arsenal News, Arsenal NewsNow, Arsenal Transfer News and tagged Man City, Platini, PSG, Wenger on June 8, 2014 by Bob.

Towards the end of last season, Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger finally seemed to be vindicated over his financially stable way of running the Gunners. We heard that a number of clubs around Europe were set to face sanctions after breaking the Financial Fair Play rules, chief among them being Man City and PSG.

Great, we thought, now maybe these crazy transfer prices can calm down a bit and perhaps Arsenal could actually sign some of the players we wanted to without some other big time charlie coming along and outbidding us. But this feeling of optimism did not last long, as the Abu-Dhabi based owners of City, and the Qatari group in charge of PSG just carried on as if nothing had happened.

The City board made a statement vowing to continue to sign the players they wanted, while PSG basically stuck two fingers up to UEFA and agreed the £50 million transfer of David Luiz from Chelsea. Maybe Wenger was right to suggest that the sanctions were not strong enough, and now Michel Platini seems to agree. A report in the Daily Mail reveals that the French chief of European football’s governing body is now ready to ban repeat offenders from the Champions League, a move that will surely get their attention more than just having their squad numbers reduced.

But will Platini’s plans really have an effect for Arsenal in the summer transfer window?

Talk about a self-obsessed article. Perhaps Arsenal, this, perhaps Arsenal that. Anyone would think football and football transfers are run for the good of Arsenal football club and their needs.

The comments below the article by Arsenal fans are priceless. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.justarsenal.com/good-news-arsenal-as-uefa-get-tougher-with-ffp/33078" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.justarsenal.com/good-news-ar ... -ffp/33078</a>

Arsenal supporters are as hypocritical as any, and if they would take off their blinkers and look at what is going on in the Arsenal hierarchy, they would soon realise that Alisher Usmanov, one of the world's richest men with a fortune in excess of £13bn, and with a share ownership in Arsenal at 30%, is refused a place on the Arsenal board for no other reason than he and majority stakeholder Stanley Kroenke having an intense dislike of each other. Basically, Usmanov is calling for major transfer market activity at the same level as City, Chelsea and PSG whereas Kroenke and his fellow board members are content to fleece the club's fans in the way you have highlighted, yet their supporters are mug enough to follow this line and in some way seeing the tightfisted [or hamstrung] Wenger as some kind of saint. I would predict that if Usmanov wins his fight and is co-opted onto the board, there will be a huge spending spree by Arsenal and their fans will be lapping it up and not caring two hoots about FFP as they will no longer be working at a disadvantage.

 

[oakiecokie]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

Its an obsession with the twats.I really do hate them as a club and their supporters really are as thick as pig shit.

 

[The slaughtered lamb]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

Good news Arsenal as UEFA get tougher with FFP


This entry was posted in Arsenal Financial News, Arsenal News, Arsenal NewsNow, Arsenal Transfer News and tagged Man City, Platini, PSG, Wenger on June 8, 2014 by Bob.

Towards the end of last season, Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger finally seemed to be vindicated over his financially stable way of running the Gunners. We heard that a number of clubs around Europe were set to face sanctions after breaking the Financial Fair Play rules, chief among them being Man City and PSG.

Great, we thought, now maybe these crazy transfer prices can calm down a bit and perhaps Arsenal could actually sign some of the players we wanted to without some other big time charlie coming along and outbidding us. But this feeling of optimism did not last long, as the Abu-Dhabi based owners of City, and the Qatari group in charge of PSG just carried on as if nothing had happened.

The City board made a statement vowing to continue to sign the players they wanted, while PSG basically stuck two fingers up to UEFA and agreed the £50 million transfer of David Luiz from Chelsea. Maybe Wenger was right to suggest that the sanctions were not strong enough, and now Michel Platini seems to agree. A report in the Daily Mail reveals that the French chief of European football’s governing body is now ready to ban repeat offenders from the Champions League, a move that will surely get their attention more than just having their squad numbers reduced.

But will Platini’s plans really have an effect for Arsenal in the summer transfer window?

Utter gobshites with the same old arguments. Wenger has never been vindicated over anything as he doesn't run the club, he runs the team. No mention of the fee for Ozil, which was no doubt made with 'earned' money. As for the bit in red, I can only imagine he has a problem with people from Abu Dhabi and Qatar. Classy.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

You've just got to love Arsenal fans. They feel that aggrieved by Manchester City and what the club has done and won over the last 5-6 years that they just can't let their hatred of City go.

They really have taken it personally. It's like they view everything that has happened at City as a personal attack against their club, fanned by their owners and Wenger. Their only solace is their on-going and personal FFPR campaign against City.(and now PSG)

Remember, this is the club that spent £42.4 on signing Ozil. A transfer fee bigger than any signed off by Sheikh Mansour and City. A club that has the highest season ticket and matchday ticket prices in the PL and probably Europe.(bar Real Madrid and Barcelona?) A club that charges some of the highest away ticket prices in the PL. But you'll never hear Wenger or Arsenal fans mentioning that. And then there's the land around their new stadium. Instead of giving it back to the local community and building community facilities on it, they sold the land to a property developer, who in turn built apartments on it, valued around £325,000 and over.

This is how a properly run club treats it's own fans and the local community.

Another bitter rant by an Arsenal fan. Note the bold and highlighted sections.

Good news Arsenal as UEFA get tougher with FFP


This entry was posted in Arsenal Financial News, Arsenal News, Arsenal NewsNow, Arsenal Transfer News and tagged Man City, Platini, PSG, Wenger on June 8, 2014 by Bob.

Towards the end of last season, Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger finally seemed to be vindicated over his financially stable way of running the Gunners. We heard that a number of clubs around Europe were set to face sanctions after breaking the Financial Fair Play rules, chief among them being Man City and PSG.

Great, we thought, now maybe these crazy transfer prices can calm down a bit and perhaps Arsenal could actually sign some of the players we wanted to without some other big time charlie coming along and outbidding us. But this feeling of optimism did not last long, as the Abu-Dhabi based owners of City, and the Qatari group in charge of PSG just carried on as if nothing had happened.

The City board made a statement vowing to continue to sign the players they wanted, while PSG basically stuck two fingers up to UEFA and agreed the £50 million transfer of David Luiz from Chelsea. Maybe Wenger was right to suggest that the sanctions were not strong enough, and now Michel Platini seems to agree. A report in the Daily Mail reveals that the French chief of European football’s governing body is now ready to ban repeat offenders from the Champions League, a move that will surely get their attention more than just having their squad numbers reduced.

But will Platini’s plans really have an effect for Arsenal in the summer transfer window?

Talk about a self-obsessed article. Perhaps Arsenal, this, perhaps Arsenal that. Anyone would think football and football transfers are run for the good of Arsenal football club and their needs.

The comments below the article by Arsenal fans are priceless. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.justarsenal.com/good-news-arsenal-as-uefa-get-tougher-with-ffp/33078" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.justarsenal.com/good-news-ar ... -ffp/33078</a>

It's all a bit premature, where have City stated that they are going to continue flouting the rules? In fact we have continually stated from day zero that we are working to meet the targets that UEFA set - driven on by Gill and Wenger, despite the continued subsequent amendments.

Unbelievable.

 

[Centurions]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

The City board made a statement vowing to continue to sign the players they wanted,

Talk about a self-obsessed article. Perhaps Arsenal, this, perhaps Arsenal that. Anyone would think football and football transfers are run for the good of Arsenal football club and their needs.

The comments below the article by Arsenal fans are priceless. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.justarsenal.com/good-news-arsenal-as-uefa-get-tougher-with-ffp/33078" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.justarsenal.com/good-news-ar ... -ffp/33078</a>

It's all a bit premature, where have City stated that they are going to continue flouting the rules? In fact we have continually stated from day zero that we are working to meet the targets that UEFA set - driven on by Gill and Wenger, despite the continued subsequent amendments.

Unbelievable.

You've got to think either that the writer doesn't know PSG & City are 2 separate clubs and he's taken any comment from one to apply to the other as well or he's taken this statement from City

- The Club’s expenditure on new players for the upcoming summer transfer window, on top of income from players it might sell, will be limited to 60m euros. This will have no material impact on the Club’s planned transfer activity.

and just twisted it to suit his purposes.

Either scenario makes him look an idiot.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

You've just got to love Arsenal fans. They feel that aggrieved by Manchester City and what the club has done and won over the last 5-6 years that they just can't let their hatred of City go.

They really have taken it personally. It's like they view everything that has happened at City as a personal attack against their club, fanned by their owners and Wenger. Their only solace is their on-going and personal FFPR campaign against City.(and now PSG)

Remember, this is the club that spent £42.4 on signing Ozil. A transfer fee bigger than any signed off by Sheikh Mansour and City. A club that has the highest season ticket and matchday ticket prices in the PL and probably Europe.(bar Real Madrid and Barcelona?) A club that charges some of the highest away ticket prices in the PL. But you'll never hear Wenger or Arsenal fans mentioning that. And then there's the land around their new stadium. Instead of giving it back to the local community and building community facilities on it, they sold the land to a property developer, who in turn built apartments on it, valued around £325,000 and over.

This is how a properly run club treats it's own fans and the local community.

Another bitter rant by an Arsenal fan. Note the bold and highlighted sections.

Good news Arsenal as UEFA get tougher with FFP


This entry was posted in Arsenal Financial News, Arsenal News, Arsenal NewsNow, Arsenal Transfer News and tagged Man City, Platini, PSG, Wenger on June 8, 2014 by Bob.

Towards the end of last season, Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger finally seemed to be vindicated over his financially stable way of running the Gunners. We heard that a number of clubs around Europe were set to face sanctions after breaking the Financial Fair Play rules, chief among them being Man City and PSG.

Great, we thought, now maybe these crazy transfer prices can calm down a bit and perhaps Arsenal could actually sign some of the players we wanted to without some other big time charlie coming along and outbidding us. But this feeling of optimism did not last long, as the Abu-Dhabi based owners of City, and the Qatari group in charge of PSG just carried on as if nothing had happened.

The City board made a statement vowing to continue to sign the players they wanted, while PSG basically stuck two fingers up to UEFA and agreed the £50 million transfer of David Luiz from Chelsea. Maybe Wenger was right to suggest that the sanctions were not strong enough, and now Michel Platini seems to agree. A report in the Daily Mail reveals that the French chief of European football’s governing body is now ready to ban repeat offenders from the Champions League, a move that will surely get their attention more than just having their squad numbers reduced.

But will Platini’s plans really have an effect for Arsenal in the summer transfer window?

Talk about a self-obsessed article. Perhaps Arsenal, this, perhaps Arsenal that. Anyone would think football and football transfers are run for the good of Arsenal football club and their needs.

The comments below the article by Arsenal fans are priceless. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.justarsenal.com/good-news-arsenal-as-uefa-get-tougher-with-ffp/33078" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.justarsenal.com/good-news-ar ... -ffp/33078</a>

It's all a bit premature, where have City stated that they are going to continue flouting the rules? In fact we have continually stated from day zero that we are working to meet the targets that UEFA set - driven on by Gill and Wenger, despite the continued subsequent amendments.

Unbelievable.

I think a lot of these people are so thick that they just assumed that ffp would come in & that it would mean that City were no longer able to spend any money on transfers. So they just expected to sit there smug & cozy, spending money themselves & watching us slip down the pecking order.

It has never even occured to them that City will actually generate more money than they do, thus continue to have a bigger transfer budget, probably getting further away each season.

City have no need to break the ffp sanctions either, we can just work around it.

 

[momo88]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

You've just got to love Arsenal fans. They feel that aggrieved by Manchester City and what the club has done and won over the last 5-6 years that they just can't let their hatred of City go.

They really have taken it personally. It's like they view everything that has happened at City as a personal attack against their club, fanned by their owners and Wenger. Their only solace is their on-going and personal FFPR campaign against City.(and now PSG)

Remember, this is the club that spent £42.4 on signing Ozil. A transfer fee bigger than any signed off by Sheikh Mansour and City. A club that has the highest season ticket and matchday ticket prices in the PL and probably Europe.(bar Real Madrid and Barcelona?) A club that charges some of the highest away ticket prices in the PL. But you'll never hear Wenger or Arsenal fans mentioning that. And then there's the land around their new stadium. Instead of giving it back to the local community and building community facilities on it, they sold the land to a property developer, who in turn built apartments on it, valued around £325,000 and over.

This is how a properly run club treats it's own fans and the local community.

Another bitter rant by an Arsenal fan. Note the bold and highlighted sections.



Talk about a self-obsessed article. Perhaps Arsenal, this, perhaps Arsenal that. Anyone would think football and football transfers are run for the good of Arsenal football club and their needs.

The comments below the article by Arsenal fans are priceless. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.justarsenal.com/good-news-arsenal-as-uefa-get-tougher-with-ffp/33078" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.justarsenal.com/good-news-ar ... -ffp/33078</a>

It's all a bit premature, where have City stated that they are going to continue flouting the rules? In fact we have continually stated from day zero that we are working to meet the targets that UEFA set - driven on by Gill and Wenger, despite the continued subsequent amendments.

Unbelievable.

I think a lot of these people are so thick that they just assumed that ffp would come in & that it would mean that City were no longer able to spend any money on transfers. So they just expected to sit there smug & cozy, spending money themselves & watching us slip down the pecking order.

It has never even occured to them that City will actually generate more money than they do, thus continue to have a bigger transfer budget, probably getting further away each season.

City have no need to break the ffp sanctions either, we can just work around it.

I agree with you

you know sometimes i wonder if a large part of football fans are dumb uneducated who are more about hating other clubs and supporters

and those Arsenal fans acting like if the club is their property at the end of the day kroenke will continue to charge them higher with the top 4 ambition (spend less get 4th place that generate CL money)

 

[r.soleofsalford]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

It's all a bit premature, where have City stated that they are going to continue flouting the rules? In fact we have continually stated from day zero that we are working to meet the targets that UEFA set - driven on by Gill and Wenger, despite the continued subsequent amendments.

Unbelievable.

I think a lot of these people are so thick that they just assumed that ffp would come in & that it would mean that City were no longer able to spend any money on transfers. So they just expected to sit there smug & cozy, spending money themselves & watching us slip down the pecking order.

It has never even occured to them that City will actually generate more money than they do, thus continue to have a bigger transfer budget, probably getting further away each season.

City have no need to break the ffp sanctions either, we can just work around it.

I agree with you

you know sometimes i wonder if a large part of football fans are dumb uneducated who are more about hating other clubs and supporters

and those Arsenal fans acting like if the club is their property at the end of the day kroenke will continue to charge them higher with the top 4 ambition (spend less get 4th place that generate CL money)

i love the tarquins getting shafted over season tickets prices by their foreign owners