City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

I couldn’t care less as I only started supporting us once the money came in ;)
Me too, saved from pocket money, walking to school saving the bus fare, paper round, milk round ----- so I could go to Maine Road every Saturday. And then when I started work I could afford to go to away games as well.
 
Me too, saved from pocket money, walking to school saving the bus fare, paper round, milk round ----- so I could go to Maine Road every Saturday. And then when I started work I could afford to go to away games as well.
Same Saturday club down at platt lane, fish and chips in the school and then The match..
 
Simon Jordan could sell snow to the Eskimo’s, but he couldn’t build an Igloo.(Crystal Palace)

His own words.

Somebody bought Crystal Palace for me, so I could get a better deal.

If you think he sounds like a tw@t now on Talk Shite, look how he looked and sounded in the video.




Believing that Noades might exploit his love for the club, Jordan therefore used a third party to front the offer and eventually secure the stadium for around £12 million.

Noades claims he always knew of Jordan's plans and is delighted with the deal anyway.

Mr f*cking clean my arse!
 
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On the books, the Grealish fee is amortised over the 6 year contract to just £16.67 million per year. Any contract extension down the line will spread the remaining fee even more.
Yep that’s the correct way to look at amortization

PlayerTransfer FeesCurrent AmortisationFee Remaining
Fernandinho£30.00£0.00£0.00
Benjamin Mendy£52.00£8.67£17.33
Ilkay Gündogan£20.00£2.00£4.00
Riyad Mahrez£60.00£12.00£24.00
Gabriel Jesus£27.00£4.32£8.64
Oleksandr Zinchenko£1.80£0.00£0.00
Rodri£62.00£12.40£37.20
Zack Steffen£7.00£1.05£4.20
Ederson£35.00£3.20£16.00
Aymeric Laporte£57.00£7.60£30.40
Joao Cancelo£60.00£12.00£48.00
Kevin De Bruyne£55.00£3.30£13.20
Bernardo Silva£43.00£5.70£28.70
Ruben Dias£63.00£8.75£52.50
John Stones£47.00£1.56£7.83
Kyle Walker£51.00£6.12£18.36
Raheem Sterling£45.00£7.20£14.40
Scott Carson£0.00£0.00£0.00
Phil Foden£0.00£0.00£0.00
Cole Palmer£0.00£0.00£0.00
Nathan Aké£41.00£8.20£32.80
Jack Grealish£100.00£16.67£100.00
Totals£856.80£120.73£457.57
 
Yep that’s the correct way to look at amortization

PlayerTransfer FeesCurrent AmortisationFee Remaining
Fernandinho£30.00£0.00£0.00
Benjamin Mendy£52.00£8.67£17.33
Ilkay Gündogan£20.00£2.00£4.00
Riyad Mahrez£60.00£12.00£24.00
Gabriel Jesus£27.00£4.32£8.64
Oleksandr Zinchenko£1.80£0.00£0.00
Rodri£62.00£12.40£37.20
Zack Steffen£7.00£1.05£4.20
Ederson£35.00£3.20£16.00
Aymeric Laporte£57.00£7.60£30.40
Joao Cancelo£60.00£12.00£48.00
Kevin De Bruyne£55.00£3.30£13.20
Bernardo Silva£43.00£5.70£28.70
Ruben Dias£63.00£8.75£52.50
John Stones£47.00£1.56£7.83
Kyle Walker£51.00£6.12£18.36
Raheem Sterling£45.00£7.20£14.40
Scott Carson£0.00£0.00£0.00
Phil Foden£0.00£0.00£0.00
Cole Palmer£0.00£0.00£0.00
Nathan Aké£41.00£8.20£32.80
Jack Grealish£100.00£16.67£100.00
Totals£856.80£120.73£457.57
A query about Joao Cancelo's transfer fee ....................
Didn't we sell someone to them as part of the fee? Cannot remember his name but I think it was a full back.
But then I could be completely wrong.
 
A query about Joao Cancelo's transfer fee ....................
Didn't we sell someone to them as part of the fee? Cannot remember his name but I think it was a full back.
But then I could be completely wrong.
Danilo, I’ve seen varying reports of how the deal was done.
 
In that video? I’ve never heard him speak and not hear him slur his words.

He’s never been able to say their club name properly; it’s always been “Manchesternited”.
not sure if I should post this...When I was at school there were 3 or 4 deaf kids, and they all supported...ban..der nar ted, I kid ye not!!!
 
A query about Joao Cancelo's transfer fee ....................
Didn't we sell someone to them as part of the fee? Cannot remember his name but I think it was a full back.
But then I could be completely wrong.
Yes we did. But we sold Danilo for 35m and bought Cancelo for 60m. you still have to amortise the Cancelo fee. But our revenues got a nice boost that year with Danilo being sold.

Its why "Swap" deals can be classified as dodgy FFP dealings example the Arthur/Pjanic swap where each player was bought for between 60-80m. Both teams got a nice 60-80m on their revenue then amortised the bought player as a cost for around 10-15m a year instead which basically "saved" them 40-50m each on their accounting books for that financial year.
 
I find it hard to understand how united are earning the same or less than us, yet they're able to at least match our transfer spending whilst they also have a higher wage bill and service their debt and pay out divis to their owners and all other shareholders.
 
I find it hard to understand how united are earning the same or less than us, yet they're able to at least match our transfer spending whilst they also have a higher wage bill and service their debt and pay out divis to their owners and all other shareholders.
Shirt colour pal, shirt colour. They can do what they like. For they and that other club that play in a shit colour are beyond reproach.
 
I find it hard to understand how united are earning the same or less than us, yet they're able to at least match our transfer spending whilst they also have a higher wage bill and service their debt and pay out divis to their owners and all other shareholders.
The answer is that going forward this can't be sustained. That's why this important. Historically Man Utd could pay the top wages and buy the most players because they generated the biggest surplus. Now they do not.

We should however note that the two clubs are at different places. City just got to the CL final, and won the league. Utd are struggling on the pitch and can still match our financial performance.
 
The answer is that going forward this can't be sustained. That's why this important. Historically Man Utd could pay the top wages and buy the most players because they generated the biggest surplus. Now they do not.

We should however note that the two clubs are at different places. City just got to the CL final, and won the league. Utd are struggling on the pitch and can still match our financial performance.

Correct. Winning trophies or getting far in Europe has always generated a lot of money that’s why the rags have had great turnover under fergie.

We drop out top four don’t get far in cup competitions our money would drop by at least 70/100m
 
Correct. Winning trophies or getting far in Europe has always generated a lot of money that’s why the rags have had great turnover under fergie.

We drop out top four don’t get far in cup competitions our money would drop by at least 70/100m
We've always been told by their fans and some in the media that them and Liverpool made their money "organically" by being successful.

Yet those same people seem incapable of following their own logic that we've made money since the takeover by being successful.
 
We've always been told by their fans and some in the media that them and Liverpool made their money "organically" by being successful.

Yet those same people seem incapable of following their own logic that we've made money since the takeover by being successful.

Yep funny that rags turnover has dropped some since they been winning nowt yes Covid had effected them like it has with most club.

They don’t get top four this season that’s a massive chunk of money they going to miss out on.
 
The rags and dippers both had human tragedies (RIP) that boosted interest in their Clubs, in addition to their football successes and past owner investment.

I am encouraged that there seems to be a bit of a buzz returning around City. This is a very small sample but our coach for Saturday’s game is sold out and membership numbers for our SC Branch are higher than ever.

We’ve been playing great football but the most enjoyable win was arguably an exhausted City finding a way to beat the Gooners. We are also seeing the development of a very exciting homegrown talent in Cole Palmer. (Most Blues have probably mastered mobile ticketing by now too).

We are never going to get the backing of the £multi-billion communications empires like the BBC, Sky and BT. It’s up to a combination of us the fans and the Club’s administration to grow the Club.
 
The rags and dippers both had human tragedies (RIP) that boosted interest in their Clubs, in addition to their football successes and past owner investment.

I am encouraged that there seems to be a bit of a buzz returning around City. This is a very small sample but our coach for Saturday’s game is sold out and membership numbers for our SC Branch are higher than ever.

We’ve been playing great football but the most enjoyable win was arguably an exhausted City finding a way to beat the Gooners. We are also seeing the development of a very exciting homegrown talent in Cole Palmer. (Most Blues have probably mastered mobile ticketing by now too).

We are never going to get the backing of the £multi-billion communications empires like the BBC, Sky and BT. It’s up to a combination of us the fans and the Club’s administration to grow the Club.

I think if we can finally kill off the outstanding Premier League witch-hunt it will help quell the unremitting allegations of "cheating" although I realise it is in certain clubs' interest to keep it going as long as possible.
 
I think if we can finally kill off the outstanding Premier League witch-hunt it will help quell the unremitting allegations of "cheating" although I realise it is in certain clubs' interest to keep it going as long as possible.
True NN. The Prem defy justice by pursuing us on FFP allegations when we have been cleared by higher authorities.

That said, we’ve got great opportunities to build our support with the Fulham game being a Saturday 3pm kick off and tickets will be relatively cheap.

More people who deferred might feel a bit more confident to return too.
 
Yep that’s the correct way to look at amortization

PlayerTransfer FeesCurrent AmortisationFee Remaining
Fernandinho£30.00£0.00£0.00
Benjamin Mendy£52.00£8.67£17.33
Ilkay Gündogan£20.00£2.00£4.00
Riyad Mahrez£60.00£12.00£24.00
Gabriel Jesus£27.00£4.32£8.64
Oleksandr Zinchenko£1.80£0.00£0.00
Rodri£62.00£12.40£37.20
Zack Steffen£7.00£1.05£4.20
Ederson£35.00£3.20£16.00
Aymeric Laporte£57.00£7.60£30.40
Joao Cancelo£60.00£12.00£48.00
Kevin De Bruyne£55.00£3.30£13.20
Bernardo Silva£43.00£5.70£28.70
Ruben Dias£63.00£8.75£52.50
John Stones£47.00£1.56£7.83
Kyle Walker£51.00£6.12£18.36
Raheem Sterling£45.00£7.20£14.40
Scott Carson£0.00£0.00£0.00
Phil Foden£0.00£0.00£0.00
Cole Palmer£0.00£0.00£0.00
Nathan Aké£41.00£8.20£32.80
Jack Grealish£100.00£16.67£100.00
Totals£856.80£120.73£457.57
Grim that we're still paying for Mendy.
 
Yep that’s the correct way to look at amortization

PlayerTransfer FeesCurrent AmortisationFee Remaining
Fernandinho£30.00£0.00£0.00
Benjamin Mendy£52.00£8.67£17.33
Ilkay Gündogan£20.00£2.00£4.00
Riyad Mahrez£60.00£12.00£24.00
Gabriel Jesus£27.00£4.32£8.64
Oleksandr Zinchenko£1.80£0.00£0.00
Rodri£62.00£12.40£37.20
Zack Steffen£7.00£1.05£4.20
Ederson£35.00£3.20£16.00
Aymeric Laporte£57.00£7.60£30.40
Joao Cancelo£60.00£12.00£48.00
Kevin De Bruyne£55.00£3.30£13.20
Bernardo Silva£43.00£5.70£28.70
Ruben Dias£63.00£8.75£52.50
John Stones£47.00£1.56£7.83
Kyle Walker£51.00£6.12£18.36
Raheem Sterling£45.00£7.20£14.40
Scott Carson£0.00£0.00£0.00
Phil Foden£0.00£0.00£0.00
Cole Palmer£0.00£0.00£0.00
Nathan Aké£41.00£8.20£32.80
Jack Grealish£100.00£16.67£100.00
Totals£856.80£120.73£457.57
I think the only people with a current amortisation of £0 should be players who have come through the academy.
Players such as Ferna and zinchenko would still have some amortisation.
 
I think the only people with a current amortisation of £0 should be players who have come through the academy.
Players such as Ferna and zinchenko would still have some amortisation.
For Ferna no, his contract had expired so effectively he would have been signed on the latest contract as a free agent with zero transfer fee hence no amortisation.

No idea about Zinchs contract
 

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