City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

[squirtyflower]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/10768827/Manchester-Citys-wage-bill-is-highest-in-world-sport.html


Hmmmmm..........looks like the pressure is building......

look mate if you are going to keep popping in this thread and wumming you'll be taking an early bath

its one thing you say everyone's panicking, when clearly they are not and it's another to be taking the piss with bullshit such as 'looks like the pressure is building'

your choice

 

[Vic]

Thanks to FFP, we have to pay more to watch. Thanks to FFP, "selling clubs" don't get the transfer payments they would have got for talented young players. And thanks to FFP, European competition lawyers will become very rich. If it's a financial war of attrition, then UEFA has assets of about 1.25bn pounds, Sheikh Mansour has 29bn...

 

[oakiecokie]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/10768827/Manchester-Citys-wage-bill-is-highest-in-world-sport.html


Hmmmmm..........looks like the pressure is building......

look mate if you are going to keep popping in this thread and wumming you'll be taking an early bath

its one thing you say everyone's panicking, when clearly they are not and it's another to be taking the piss with bullshit such as 'looks like the pressure is building'

your choice

Spot on mate,even though its old re-hashed news from last week,when I first remember reading it.Too many balloons on here,who seem to take everything that the media say as gospel.

 

[squirtyflower]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/10768827/Manchester-Citys-wage-bill-is-highest-in-world-sport.html


Hmmmmm..........looks like the pressure is building......

look mate if you are going to keep popping in this thread and wumming you'll be taking an early bath

its one thing you say everyone's panicking, when clearly they are not and it's another to be taking the piss with bullshit such as 'looks like the pressure is building'

your choice

Spot on mate,even though its old re-hashed news from last week,when I first remember reading it.Too many balloons on here,who seem to take everything that the media say as gospel.

Exactly
After all why would anyone want to read a paper! *smiles*

 

[RyanP3609]

Thanks to FFP, we have to pay more to watch. Thanks to FFP, "selling clubs" don't get the transfer payments they would have got for talented young players. And thanks to FFP, European competition lawyers will become very rich. If it's a financial war of attrition, then UEFA has assets of about 1.25bn pounds, Sheikh Mansour has 29bn...

The shining example in the prem of why FFP benefits only the "elite" are that of Southampton. Doing a fantastic job this season, sat in 8th and on course for their highest ever league finish. Have a core of young English talent that play attractive football with a young manager in Pochettino who has the makings of a great manager if given time/resources.

But.. and there's a BIG but... come this summer, there teams going to get ripped apart from this "elite", cherry picking the best of Southampton team (and even their manager) as Southampton will never be able to push on and aim to try breaking the top 6, then the top 4 etc.

Shaw/Lallana are supposidly off to the scum/chavs. Rodriguez is app on Le Arse radar. Lovren's attractive attention elsewhere. Then as Pochettino knows he's not going to have lots of cash to spend and will be likely to be losing key players this summer, is reportidley wanting to go Spurs for some bizarre reason.

If I was a Southampton fan I'd be on cloud 9 atm with how this seasons gone when many thought they'd be a shoe in for the drop. But come this summer there going to have to try replace there best players (Lambert will probably stay but there going to need a new Striker, Attacking Mid, Left Back), I'm sure if you were an investor looking to buy a club they'd be a decent look at and with their core team given funds they could buy players to challenge the top 6 places (to begin with). But no, due to FFP that could never happen now so they'll get rid of there best players, Pochettino will probably leave and then they'll languish mid/lower table next season and have missed there chance at the big time.

It's unbelievable how coincidental that we got bought out just before it was starting to get looked at how clubs are run. I'm not saying it's an agenda against us, as I believe whoever would have been next to have been bought out and spend vast sums would have caused this as Chelsea was bad enough but that's still 4 major teams, enough for them to all get into Champs League year on year. Once we got bought that was it, too many now with 5 being able to challenge.

I can't wait for them to fail someone for FFP, as soon as they and the club appeal (which I think will be PSG), it's going to get shown up for the complete sham that it is. Gill can sit in his new "position of power" and try as much as he likes to stop us. It's simply too late, if you drive past the stadium at any time now you see what's happening around it, how can you possibly say that's bad for football? It's going to look insane and it's already helped the community in ways other clubs don't even know are possible.

Maybe city should start charging a complete fortune for ticket prices (Arsenal) or forcing us to buy tickets for cup games or we'll miss out on league tickets despite having a season ticket (scum), that's how Football clubs should be run ay!

Rant over!

 

[TonyM]

Thanks to FFP, we have to pay more to watch. Thanks to FFP, "selling clubs" don't get the transfer payments they would have got for talented young players. And thanks to FFP, European competition lawyers will become very rich. If it's a financial war of attrition, then UEFA has assets of about 1.25bn pounds, Sheikh Mansour has 29bn...

this is my main issue with FFFP. It's all about revenue. It should exclude all revenue and costs that can't be directly related to players, e.g. tickets sales, sponsorship, partnerships, etc. It's just forcing clubs to milk fans for every cent, whether it be the biggest clubs or the smallest. It's a disgrace imo.

If they really wanted fairness then they'd set very simply transfer and wage limits for all teams.

Honestly I don't think it matters if the best players disappear because of more advantageous taxes in another country. In that case the English leagues/cups will be great and European football will be a joke (again). But at least domestically it'd be fair.

 

[oakiecokie]

look mate if you are going to keep popping in this thread and wumming you'll be taking an early bath

its one thing you say everyone's panicking, when clearly they are not and it's another to be taking the piss with bullshit such as 'looks like the pressure is building'

your choice

Spot on mate,even though its old re-hashed news from last week,when I first remember reading it.Too many balloons on here,who seem to take everything that the media say as gospel.

Exactly
After all why would anyone want to read a paper! *smiles*

Well only the MEN. ;) Too much comes nowadays from social networking where the hordes are taken in,unfortunately.

 

[mcmanus]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/10768827/Manchester-Citys-wage-bill-is-highest-in-world-sport.html


Hmmmmm..........looks like the pressure is building......

And if we don't get found guilty or we do and get warned maybe fined we'll still fucking hammer you again.

You tarquins always seem to hate spring why's that? Now fuck off.

 

[Blue Haze]

City Watch ‏@City_Watch 7 mins

The Times/@Marcotti: City's punishment if they breach FFP could be a £1 penalty for every £1 that they are over the allowed limit.

They're going to fine us 200m+?

Lawsuit time

 

[GoMancini7]

Some of you are on drugs when say things it wont have effect on us. It already had huge effect on us. You seriously think we wouldnt have signed Mangala in the summer for even 45m if there is not this FFP? Or go and give Isco's father that extra money maybe? Or this January just give the money to Porto in a bag they wanted for Mangala+Fernando?

Or Chelsea wouldnt try to sign a top striker in January after selling Mata for big cash? They went out to get Torres for 50m in January few years ago. And certainly they have the money now too.

But FFP already has its effect its clear. Now we are going in the right direction of course, we will be breakeven in 1-2-3 years, but I bet our finances would look lot worse if this FFP thing never came up as an idea in last 2-3 years. Yeah great future plans academy, traning ground would be still happening but next to a really big spending what we stopped doing.

FFP had and will have and effect on us. If FFP wouldnt exist I am sure this January we go out and spend even 50m on CB's. Or if we lost Yaya for injury for 6months we would have gone and get a 20-30m midfelder in. With FFP it couldnt happen. Its clear to me.

Now this fine, or CL ban, I dont know , we surely failed FFP in a way.
They say you can lose 45m in the period they looked at, right? Thats 45m €!!!
We lost about 150m not in € but pounds. Thats 180m € loss, and it couldnt be more than 45m€. In this sense we failed FFP surely even after we can write the half of these losses off. And we dont have clear details how much we can write off. The club should know how much we can write of. If they would be 100% sure we didnt fail, or we couldnt fail, they would tell it as it is, and not "we are confident", "We are working towards it", " we will be break even in 2 years" etc.
They would say we looked at the number and no way we can fail.

Still as there is many different possible ban, worst maybe is CL ban as we couldnt play in CL next year, not very possible that happens. Expect some smaller fine, or bigger fine, but not some more serious thing. Maybe than transfer thing that we cant register new players for next CL season. Thats hardly the worst kind of ban, maybe would accept it instead of a 20m pounds fine.
Of course it would make harder to sign top class players with them only playing for us at domestic level for one year.

PSG was more reckless in spending like we were under Cook/Marwood, they can expect surely bigger fines than us. But for the same reason it had an effect on them and they had to come up with an unreal sponsor like 200m€ per year from Qatar Tourism. In two years thats 400m €. With that they are top 5 in incomes of football clubs in the world. Question is uefa accepts that or no, but they are getting good lawyers to prove its a good deal for PSG and Qatar too.

All I wanted to say peole saying FFP cant stop us. Yeah it wont. But it had huge effect on us clearly already. Luckily our owners in for the long term, and are ready to play by these new rules. Can imagine some other owners would just say" ohh, it doesnt worth so much hassle, if I cant spend it on a football club, I invest my money elswehere, fuck off uefa and europan football". thats was a goal for FFP creators, to make it hard to invest lot of money. Luckily our owners seems like have lot more patience/lot bigger plans than this.

I see it this way.