Prestwich_Blue said:The journos didn't come out against FFP because they had a conversion on the road to Damascus or sudden fit of conscience. They were briefed against it, possibly by us (which I assume we've been doing for a while without much success), more probably by other influential clubs.
If it was introduced (by those same clubs) to keep us at bay, it's failed and now they realise they've trapped themselves. The rags have spent loads but they've lost income and have only made profits because of tax credits, not real money. They can't use those for FFP. Liverpool are fucked completely and Arsenal don't have the muscle. Even Chelsea have to rely on selling players at inflated values to keep pace. So now FFP is bad but if they loosen the rules then we'll take advantage just the same.
Fucking weirdo...oakiecokie said:Prestwich_Blue said:The journos didn't come out against FFP because they had a conversion on the road to Damascus or sudden fit of conscience. They were briefed against it, possibly by us (which I assume we've been doing for a while without much success), more probably by other influential clubs.
If it was introduced (by those same clubs) to keep us at bay, it's failed and now they realise they've trapped themselves. The rags have spent loads but they've lost income and have only made profits because of tax credits, not real money. They can't use those for FFP. Liverpool are fucked completely and Arsenal don't have the muscle. Even Chelsea have to rely on selling players at inflated values to keep pace. So now FFP is bad but if they loosen the rules then we'll take advantage just the same.
I do love it when you talk dirty, Col.
Of course we are, we're playing the game and have a guess who's going to be the biggest winner in the end, mcfc.Salford_Blue said:If FFP is eventually outed to be the farce we know it is, can City get the fine money back or possibly sue?
Is this why we so meekly agreed to it, knowing that we would bite them on the backside in the ensuing months?
Food for thought.
Bluewonder said:bluechampion7891 said:http://www.goal.com/en/news/745/fifa/2014/12/29/7472922/financial-fair-play-prevents-new-investment-in-football-ac-milan-?ICID=HP_TS_4
By Paul Macdonald at the Dubai International Sports Conference
AC Milan sporting director Umberto Gandini believes that current Financial Fair Play (FFP) regulations prevent new investment in football clubs.
Speaking at the International Sports Conference in Dubai, the Italian stated his belief that FFP maintains the status quo of the established European sides and doesn’t provide equal conditions of competition.
Gandini is also the vice-chairman of the European Club Association (ECA), an independent body that represents the interests of teams in European competitions, one that is also heavily involved in the decision-making process when implementing new directives.
FFP has been the subject of intense scrutiny recently, with Jose Mourinho branding the current set-up a "contradiction", and Gandini feels that the situation requires reassessment.
The Italian said: "Financial Fair Play has brought some control and common sense into the administration of football clubs in Europe.
"It has been a success in terms of producing a reduction in the overall losses in European football.
"On the other hand, there is a crystallisation [of the top clubs] and we now have significant investors waiting to come into the game but they are prevented from doing so by FFP.
"There are currently five or six major clubs in Europe but what Uefa should be aiming for is to have 20 major clubs."
Also speaking at the conference, Uefa General Secretary Gianni Infantino defended FFP, countering: "It is important to look to the future. What FFP has done is make sure that when you manage a club you have to do so in a certain way.
"There was a period of austerity and now we should look to the next stage - and that is growth. There can still be 20 major clubs and not just in England but major European clubs too. We just have to be brave."
Infantino also showed frustration when asked to comment on the ongoing controversy surrounding the decision to award Qatar the 2022 World Cup, stating his desire for clarity on the subject of Michael Garcia's report on corruption within Fifa.
He added: “The vote [to award Qatar the tournament] took place four years ago, and people are still talking about it. Either there is something in it, or there is nothing. The sooner everything is out and everything is clear, it will be better.
“We are a little bit fed up.”
so one of the instigators of FFP bitten by it. if only the rags and the german rags turn up like this in the end
What a total hypocrite. I hope they succumb to a lengthy period of absolute mediocrity.
john@staustell said:Bluewonder said:bluechampion7891 said:http://www.goal.com/en/news/745/fifa/2014/12/29/7472922/financial-fair-play-prevents-new-investment-in-football-ac-milan-?ICID=HP_TS_4
so one of the instigators of FFP bitten by it. if only the rags and the german rags turn up like this in the end
What a total hypocrite. I hope they succumb to a lengthy period of absolute mediocrity.
'...believes the FFP rules prevent new investment in football' eh?
Must have a degree in the bleedin obvious.
Comical.
Obviously Milan (and many others) have got money lined up but the investors have told them to go and take a run and jump whilst they aren't allowed to invest meaningful amounts.
Salford_Blue said:If FFP is eventually outed to be the farce we know it is, can City get the fine money back or possibly sue?
Is this why we so meekly agreed to it, knowing that we would bite them on the backside in the ensuing months?
Food for thought.
BluessinceHydeRoad said:City accepted the "settlement" with UEFA for no other reason than that taking action in law would have opened the club up to the full force of UEFA's sanctions - notably exclusion from the CL - for the whole period (probably four years) the case was sub judice. This would have deterred sponsors, commercial partners and thrown a real spanner in the plans to increase revenue. It would have deterred players from joining City for the full four years! City decided to take "the pinch", especially as M. Dupont was going to court anyway. If he wins UEFA will have real problems because they punished not one club last summer, but nine, and the indirect consequences of the settlements - for instance the players these clubs could NOT buy or had to sell - far outweigh the fines.
Indeed the noises coming out of Milan do seem to be little more than the bleating a of Europe's slipperiest politician that the rules used to suit him, but don't anymore and so he wants his ball(s?) back, but other elements are still committed to defend the regulations. Those sticking to the regulations may find that there is little to stick to after February 2015 when judgement is expected on M. Dupont's case OR City could be given the best New Year present anyone could give it. As our chairman said at the end of last season, "It doesn't me am we'll win every year, but every year the club will get better." As yet we earn £350 million pa and not a penny of that is from the CFA, and not a penny from the collar site! The Sheikh is doing what he promised - he actually promised NOT to be a sugar daddy - and is not concerned at all with FFPR. The "pinch" has hurt a bit more than expected, possibly, but everything seems still to be well on track. Happy New Year, Michel.