City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

james1910 said:
With ttip deal about to be done with the USA
How will that affect ffp???

Is UEFA (FFP) specifically European by definition ?
UEFA Swiss based as well but now subject to new legislation effective April this year.

Regarding ttip, perhaps they (USA) will have some effect on the EU's inability to stop the corruption that has prevented its auditors from signing off the yearly accounts for the last 15 or so years ?
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
dasblues said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
All of the sanctions this year have a removal clause for the punishments in the final year of the sanctions if the club meets break-even requirements. As next season is the final season of our sanctions, I expect no different for us.

Where does it state this, I must have missed it?

I posted it all out and then the forum fucked up for some reason. I'd clarified all that, but then I found this:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.uefa.com/community/news/newsid=2064391.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.uefa.com/community/news/newsid=2064391.html</a>

13) Why has the UEFA Club Financial Control Body reached settlement agreements with clubs?

The CFCB's investigatory chamber can offer clubs settlement agreements, a common instrument for financial regulators to help facilitate compliance. Article 15 of the Procedural rules governing the UEFA Club Financial Control Body states that "settlement agreements may set out the obligation(s) to be fulfilled by the defendant, including the possible application of disciplinary measures and, where necessary, a specific timeframe. The CFCB chief investigator monitors the proper and timely implementation of the settlement agreement. If a defendant fails to comply with the terms of a settlement agreement, the CFCB chief investigator shall refer the case to the adjudicatory chamber."

14) Can you explain the financial measures handed out and how the figures were determined?

Financial measures are linked to each club's earnings from their participation in European competition during the assessment period.

17) How are clubs that have contravened financial fair play being incentivised to become break-even compliant?

Settlements require the clubs to become compliant with financial fair play within a short period of time. Failure to meet settlement terms will lead to the club being automatically referred to the adjudicatory chamber.

Conversely if a club fulfils each individual requirement of the settlement, it may be released from the limitation on the number of players for UEFA competitions for the following season. If a club becomes break-even compliant during the course of the settlement, all sanctions shall cease to apply for the following season, with the exception of the non-conditional element of the financial measure.

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So basically if our accounts published earlier this year show us to be break-even compliant, then all our sanctions are lifted for next season, except the non-refundable aspect of the fine paid to UEFA in the sanctions last year.

So our settlement states:

In this regard, Manchester City undertakes to report a maximum break-even deficit of EUR 20 Mio. for the financial year ending in 2014.

Our 2013/14 accounts show:

The report also reveals a bottom line loss of £23m for 2013-14. This figure includes the accounting in full of £16m that recognises the total UEFA sanctions imposed in May 2014 following disputed breaches of its Financial Fair Play regulations. The club expects to be entering the 2015-16 season with no outstanding sanctions or restrictions.

Thus our loss minus the withholding of £16m of our prize money is £7m, within the E20m limit. Furthermore the City statement refers to it as being 2 lots of E10m prize money, one taken in 2013/14, one 2014/15, thus that would make it a £15m loss, within the UEFA limit as well. As UEFA are sanctioning us E10m each season, then I think the agreement must be that they will take our losses and deduct the second year of fines from it to give us the value within the acceptable limits, or something to that effect.

So that's why I think City believe they are free to spend.
Great find mate and I agree.
 
I know the thread is ''City and FFP'' but it seems a legal challenge is QPR's defence against their imminent £58M fine re PL FFP problems.
 
james1910 said:
With ttip deal about to be done with the USA
How will that affect ffp???

Can't see any possible conflicts??

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_Trade_and_Investment_Partnership" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlan ... artnership</a>
 
SilverFox2 said:
I know the thread is ''City and FFP'' but it seems a legal challenge is QPR's defence against their imminent £58M fine re PL FFP problems.

The Independent and the Guardian are carrying essentially the same article. The ambiguity comes in when they argue that this "legal action" appears to be an "independent" arbitration panel to decide whether QPR are liable and will have to pay a fine of some £58 million. The FL's case is that and injection of £60 million as an "exceptional item"in the accounts of 2012-13 is not permitted under FL financial rules and that the club therefore made a loss of almost £70 million, which would lead to a £58 million "fair play tax" under FL rules. QPR claim that the rule is not legal. No sanctions will be imposed while the panel decides, but, presumably, QPR will go to court if the panel decides against them. Any decision in an English court would set a precedent in Europe unless a decision in the Dupont case came first.
 
BluessinceHydeRoad said:
SilverFox2 said:
I know the thread is ''City and FFP'' but it seems a legal challenge is QPR's defence against their imminent £58M fine re PL FFP problems.

The Independent and the Guardian are carrying essentially the same article. The ambiguity comes in when they argue that this "legal action" appears to be an "independent" arbitration panel to decide whether QPR are liable and will have to pay a fine of some £58 million. The FL's case is that and injection of £60 million as an "exceptional item"in the accounts of 2012-13 is not permitted under FL financial rules and that the club therefore made a loss of almost £70 million, which would lead to a £58 million "fair play tax" under FL rules. QPR claim that the rule is not legal. No sanctions will be imposed while the panel decides, but, presumably, QPR will go to court if the panel decides against them. Any decision in an English court would set a precedent in Europe unless a decision in the Dupont case came first.

Thanks BSHR.

QPR's Business Plan appears not to have been as successful as ADUG's so what real options do they have other than litigation ?
 
QPR actually voted for the Prem version of FFP.

Fecking idiots.

If they had gone the other way, along with Reading abstaining, the Prem would not even have FFP.

I would also drag Dave Whelan up before the courts for his admission at the time that Arsenal and United were scared of City and our threat to their monopoly.
 

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