City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

EL APACHE TEVEZ said:
SilverFox2 said:
Why would ADUG spend just because they can ?

Their Business Plan is working extremely well with FFP1 now history, perhaps any extra big spend will have to be very much the exception rather than the rule. I cannot see FFP2 changing the BP significantly irrespective of its relaxation content.
Surely the results on the field as well as off it have been extremely good and it is hard to imagine how it could have gone better.

Sure there will not be any need to worry about yearly P & L matters for FFP that is but I bet Sheik M.s will demand conformity to his P & L expectations.
Getting focus on Commercial Revenue will still be the order of the day rather than losing focus on why the investment was made in the first place by a spend spend demonstration.
You can't take it with you when you've gone,spend spend spend.

I agree, Txiki out, richards30 for DOF!
 
SilverFox2 said:
Why would ADUG spend just because they can ?

Their Business Plan is working extremely well with FFP1 now history, perhaps any extra big spend will have to be very much the exception rather than the rule. I cannot see FFP2 changing the BP significantly irrespective of its relaxation content.
Surely the results on the field as well as off it have been extremely good and it is hard to imagine how it could have gone better.

Sure there will not be any need to worry about yearly P & L matters for FFP that is but I bet Sheik M.s will demand conformity to his P & L expectations.
Getting focus on Commercial Revenue will still be the order of the day rather than losing focus on why the investment was made in the first place by a spend spend demonstration.
I would agree that we might not burst the bank going over our soon-to-be former FFP figures but a relaxation of the rules should help us sign a couple of marquee players like we could before FFP.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Didsbury Dave said:
This is fucking brilliant. It's over. They are going to allow "investment" and that's all we need.

I honestly think that much of this was cooked up in those meetings during that week where the announcement of our fine was delayed and delayed and delayed. I reckon Khaldoon and Soriano have ultimately played hardball here and pulled it off.

Even some of the language used by both parties at the time suggested that. UEFA made bizarre comments like "FFP has been a success", Khaldoon was bullish.


It can only be one of three things I can see pal...

1) Khaldoon's call for a ten-year monitoring period which will allow investors to prove their long-term commitments, and an addressing of clubs in severe debt.

2) Investment which is not a loan, which has to be converted to equity.

3) A sum equal to the window spend that is then held in Escrow by Uefa to ensure the club can sustain itself over an agreed period.

Yeah, I'd make you right. Win/win/win for Sheikh Mansour. The cost being the £19m fine we actually paid and a year or two's "hump". The payoff being a clear run for MCFC to do what they want. If that's the deal done then we've kept UEFA (and of course our sponsors) onside by allowing them a little leeway.

UEFA bit off more than they could chew taking on the Oil Barons. Platini's had to juggle like mad here I sense. i honestly could smell this in the air that week we got fined.

Muppets aside, would anybody be seriously surprised if our boys have played a blinder?

Nothing you hear about Mansour suggests that he does anything but play to win and his henchman (KAM) is one cool, clever dude.
 
GaudinoMotors said:
Ok so the shackles look to be coming off?
What now for this first window?
Outspend everyone and put silly bids in?
or
Show some restraint so that we don't bring another kind of restriction and negative attention upon us?
The latter deffo. Let's keep our dignity & continue on our path of business growth & show the world how to run a football club.

If in the future Messi becomes available, then by all means let's blow all comers out of the water. We now have the moral high ground and this is where I'd like us to stay.
 
OB1 said:
Didsbury Dave said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
It can only be one of three things I can see pal...

1) Khaldoon's call for a ten-year monitoring period which will allow investors to prove their long-term commitments, and an addressing of clubs in severe debt.

2) Investment which is not a loan, which has to be converted to equity.

3) A sum equal to the window spend that is then held in Escrow by Uefa to ensure the club can sustain itself over an agreed period.

Yeah, I'd make you right. Win/win/win for Sheikh Mansour. The cost being the £19m fine we actually paid and a year or two's "hump". The payoff being a clear run for MCFC to do what they want. If that's the deal done then we've kept UEFA (and of course our sponsors) onside by allowing them a little leeway.

UEFA bit off more than they could chew taking on the Oil Barons. Platini's had to juggle like mad here I sense. i honestly could smell this in the air that week we got fined.

Muppets aside, would anybody be seriously surprised if our boys have played a blinder?

Nothing you hear about Mansour suggests that he does anything but play to win and his henchman (KAM) is one cool, clever dude.

I'd be surprised if they DIDN'T, OB1. I honestly believed they had at the time we got fined, too. It's why all this "we can't wait a year until Pep makes his mind up" stuff is so bloody irritating. The Sheikh is a major player on the world stage and so are MCFC by proxy. We aren't old guard, but money talks, and our people are doing deals and pulling strings at the very top.
 
Its generally accepted that the next step for City, one to CL winning levels, would be a more expensive one than they previous investments.

I would imagine that the board of MCFC know this and are ready to invest suitable amounts of money.

Summertime fun.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
OB1 said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Yeah, I'd make you right. Win/win/win for Sheikh Mansour. The cost being the £19m fine we actually paid and a year or two's "hump". The payoff being a clear run for MCFC to do what they want. If that's the deal done then we've kept UEFA (and of course our sponsors) onside by allowing them a little leeway.

UEFA bit off more than they could chew taking on the Oil Barons. Platini's had to juggle like mad here I sense. i honestly could smell this in the air that week we got fined.

Muppets aside, would anybody be seriously surprised if our boys have played a blinder?

Nothing you hear about Mansour suggests that he does anything but play to win and his henchman (KAM) is one cool, clever dude.

I'd be surprised if they DIDN'T, OB1. I honestly believed they had at the time we got fined, too. It's why all this "we can't wait a year until Pep makes his mind up" stuff is so bloody irritating. The Sheikh is a major player on the world stage and so are MCFC by proxy. We aren't old guard, but money talks, and our people are doing deals and pulling strings at the very top.

They are also playing the long game and trying to build an ultimately self-sustaining business; which is why I do not expect them to simply go out and overspend of a bunch of galacticos. Although I will be very disappointed if we do not see some serious financial muscle flexing this summer.
 
Commiserations must go to David Gill in all this!

Probably best in future to remember that just because getting a table at San Carlo's makes you think you're a big boy, it's a good idea not to pick on people who run entire countries and have Obama on speed dial, because eventually, they'll make you look like the fucking **** you are!

And when they do, you'll have also pissed them off!

Good luck, dick head!
 
vonksbignose said:
Commiserations must go to David Gill in all this!

Probably best in future to remember that just because getting a table at San Carlo's makes you think you're a big boy, it's a good idea not to pick on people who run entire countries and have Obama on speed dial, because eventually, they'll make you look like the fucking **** you are!

And when they do, you'll have also pissed them off!

Good luck, dick head!

Fuck David Gill, I hope every shit he has is a hedgehog.
 

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