spacecadet
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Re: "City face Euro Expulsion"
Thought God's own posted the second highest income in England, maybe wrong?
Thought God's own posted the second highest income in England, maybe wrong?
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City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)
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Blue Haze
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It is constructively a salary cap, which is banned under EU law. One of the EU's goals is to facilitate the free flow of capital; restricting that can run afoul of EU regulations.
Forzacitizens said:Keith, can you explain to
Me why it contravenes EU law?
It is constructively a salary cap, which is banned under EU law. One of the EU's goals is to facilitate the free flow of capital; restricting that can run afoul of EU regulations.
Cobwebcat
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Re: "City face Euro Expulsion"
The pressure on UEFA is going to be huge now whatever happens.....it's of their own making
Either us or our rivals are not going to be happy.
We will have to get used to this until it either blows over or DuPont wins his case against FFP which I think he might.
It's all politics.
The pressure on UEFA is going to be huge now whatever happens.....it's of their own making
Either us or our rivals are not going to be happy.
We will have to get used to this until it either blows over or DuPont wins his case against FFP which I think he might.
It's all politics.
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Restriction of trade?
It doesn't matter anyway, there's absolutely no way in hell that UEFA would kick us out of the Champions League. They're petrified already of people mutinying and starting a rival competition which is why everybody will flap and flap and flap and eventually do nothing.
Think how quickly John Henry's tune will change if we announced a rival European competition to which Liverpool are invited and the prize money was £200m
Forzacitizens said:Keith, can you explain to
Me why it contravenes EU law?
Restriction of trade?
It doesn't matter anyway, there's absolutely no way in hell that UEFA would kick us out of the Champions League. They're petrified already of people mutinying and starting a rival competition which is why everybody will flap and flap and flap and eventually do nothing.
Think how quickly John Henry's tune will change if we announced a rival European competition to which Liverpool are invited and the prize money was £200m
Prestwich_Blue
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In short, because it restricts competition. I believe that legal opinion given to our owners supports this.Forzacitizens said:Keith, can you explain to
Me why it contravenes EU law?
Forzacitizens
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Re: "City face Euro Expulsion"
Thanks mate but I wouldn't trust the eu courts
Blue Haze said:Forzacitizens said:Keith, can you explain to
Me why it contravenes EU law?
It is constructively a salary cap, which is banned under EU law. One of the EU's goals is to facilitate the free flow of capital; restricting that can run afoul of EU regulations.
Thanks mate but I wouldn't trust the eu courts
jay laruja
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Re: "City face Euro Expulsion"
I hate how teams do underhanded crap just because they can't beat a team in the pitch. The reasons to give mou's team a proper mauling just keeps piling up.
I hate how teams do underhanded crap just because they can't beat a team in the pitch. The reasons to give mou's team a proper mauling just keeps piling up.
Prestwich_Blue
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Spot on. UEFA are well aware we could destroy the CL in an instant.Damocles said:Forzacitizens said:Keith, can you explain to
Me why it contravenes EU law?
Restriction of trade?
It doesn't matter anyway, there's absolutely no way in hell that UEFA would kick us out of the Champions League. They're petrified already of people mutinying and starting a rival competition which is why everybody will flap and flap and flap and eventually do nothing.
Think how quickly John Henry's tune will change if we announced a rival European competition to which Liverpool are invited and the prize money was £200m
S04
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Re: "City face Euro Expulsion"
Just bollox unless Uefa comes up with a "market value estimate" on those IP-rights..
Just bollox unless Uefa comes up with a "market value estimate" on those IP-rights..
bluemonkey71
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Re: "City face Euro Expulsion"
Those 3 teams can get fucked. I know more about it than Ayre for starters and I'm a fuckwitt.
Those 3 teams can get fucked. I know more about it than Ayre for starters and I'm a fuckwitt.
sam-caddick
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Sounds like more mind games and attempted unsettlement from Jose, the man has no shame!
Marvin said:From the Daily Mail.........
On Saturday night Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho, who faces City on Monday in the game of the season so far, accused some unnamed clubs of ‘dodgy FFP’.
He said: ‘There are clubs that are following exactly the project of Financial Fair Play and there are other clubs doing it in a dodgy way. For me, that is very clear. I don’t say the clubs — that is not my job.’
When asked specifically about City, and a potential UEFA investigation, he added: ‘It’s for Mr Platini and other people to analyse it, it’s not for me… I’m waiting for that.’
Read more: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2550222/Rivals-ganging-ban-City-Liverpool-Chelsea-Arsenal-test-Champions-League-ruling-Financial-Fair-Play.html#ixzz2s7E7TAEZ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... z2s7E7TAEZ</a>
Sounds like more mind games and attempted unsettlement from Jose, the man has no shame!
Prestwich_Blue
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We have to do that but as Petrusha pointed out in his excellent post, the valuation will be supported by expert testimony.S04 said:Just bollox unless Uefa comes up with a "market value estimate" on those IP-rights..
Ducado
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Re: "City face Euro Expulsion"
It's so transparent as to be funny
It's fair to say we have them rattled
It's so transparent as to be funny
It's fair to say we have them rattled
cleavers
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Re: "City face Euro Expulsion"
Imagine UEFA's embarrassment when they ban this years winners/runners up/semi finalist from next years competition, only a small lack of credibility when they let PSG in hey ?
PMSL at this nonsense of an attempt to undermine us. I'm sure City have it more than covered.
Strange how this is the main news on the day yoonited lose their 8th game (out of 24 - only 33% of their games) of the league season.
F**k off britsh media, you're no longer in charge.
Imagine UEFA's embarrassment when they ban this years winners/runners up/semi finalist from next years competition, only a small lack of credibility when they let PSG in hey ?
PMSL at this nonsense of an attempt to undermine us. I'm sure City have it more than covered.
Strange how this is the main news on the day yoonited lose their 8th game (out of 24 - only 33% of their games) of the league season.
F**k off britsh media, you're no longer in charge.
cucumberman
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If the Champions. League is going to be based on something other than 22 players pitting their skills on the pitch, then I'd rather just concentrate on beating teams day in and day out without silverware to prove it.
What's the point if teams are too coward to face the truth on the pitch? If FFP really wants to make it fair, why not a cap on the total value of the squad being fielded on the pitch.
Currently, our best eleven (hart, zaba, kompany, Demi, clichy, fern, yaya, silva, navas, alf, kun) is now less expensive than mata's current squad of eleven. And so is against Real Madrid et al.
Keep the football to football.
If the Champions. League is going to be based on something other than 22 players pitting their skills on the pitch, then I'd rather just concentrate on beating teams day in and day out without silverware to prove it.
What's the point if teams are too coward to face the truth on the pitch? If FFP really wants to make it fair, why not a cap on the total value of the squad being fielded on the pitch.
Currently, our best eleven (hart, zaba, kompany, Demi, clichy, fern, yaya, silva, navas, alf, kun) is now less expensive than mata's current squad of eleven. And so is against Real Madrid et al.
Keep the football to football.
chesterguy
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Re: "City face Euro Expulsion"
United are putting up the worst defence the Premier League has ever seen remember these headlines from Feb last year "Has the Premier League title ever been surrendered so pathetically?"
Is that what the media are saying this no its
City give biggest payout to Mancini
City will be ganged up and excluded from CL
Mourinho hints City are cheating
Mourinho takes swipe at miscalculating Pellegrini
Pellegrini still wont back Joe Hart
Barcelona target Silva
City's away form will help Arsenal to the league
Now are know there are apologists for the media but even when being "positive" as they would see it like Taylor did in his articl. All he did was regurgitate our information in the annual accounts with the negative slant the "the bloated Etihad deal" which if anything should be renegotiated upwards bearing in mind the deals Liverpool and United have recently done
The media are scum in my opinion who tow a party line but they know we are a good team with a good manager but as soon as anything goes wrong they will jump on City from a great height cheering whilst they do it
United are putting up the worst defence the Premier League has ever seen remember these headlines from Feb last year "Has the Premier League title ever been surrendered so pathetically?"
Is that what the media are saying this no its
City give biggest payout to Mancini
City will be ganged up and excluded from CL
Mourinho hints City are cheating
Mourinho takes swipe at miscalculating Pellegrini
Pellegrini still wont back Joe Hart
Barcelona target Silva
City's away form will help Arsenal to the league
Now are know there are apologists for the media but even when being "positive" as they would see it like Taylor did in his articl. All he did was regurgitate our information in the annual accounts with the negative slant the "the bloated Etihad deal" which if anything should be renegotiated upwards bearing in mind the deals Liverpool and United have recently done
The media are scum in my opinion who tow a party line but they know we are a good team with a good manager but as soon as anything goes wrong they will jump on City from a great height cheering whilst they do it
Cobwebcat
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Re: "City face Euro Expulsion"
If you read the two new points they refer to they imply that
1. If a club is punished that club can "plea bargain" in presumably an attempt to get the club to accept a lesser punishment.
2. If another club is not happy with the result of that plea bargain then they can object.
Ok straight forward enough.
Right....
1. What if we do not get punished in the first place? Then both 1 and 2 are irrelevant.
2. What if we do get a punishment and accept it? Then 1 and 2 are irrelevant.
As far as I can see this changes nothing.
If you read the two new points they refer to they imply that
1. If a club is punished that club can "plea bargain" in presumably an attempt to get the club to accept a lesser punishment.
2. If another club is not happy with the result of that plea bargain then they can object.
Ok straight forward enough.
Right....
1. What if we do not get punished in the first place? Then both 1 and 2 are irrelevant.
2. What if we do get a punishment and accept it? Then 1 and 2 are irrelevant.
As far as I can see this changes nothing.