City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

[Newman Noggs]

Exactly, if it's not aimed at City as he claims, then why since 2008? A more telling comparison would be the first 5 years since 2008 vs the last 5 years as the first 5 were the trickiest(catching up) and the last 5 shows how far we've come. He's not really interested in where we are heading though.

He does explain the inflation yes:

Ha ha ! Hadn't spotted that. "Outliers like Neymar" and Pogba and Lukaku and Di Maria !

 

[CityStu]

so adjusted for magical inflation, we've somehow spent 1.5bn Euros in 10 years, whilst the rags, who've just committed to spending £180m on one player without a transfer fee, and spent £323m just on Pogba, Lukaku, Di Maria, Martial and Mata, somehow spend less than a billion. Lolz.

It's net transfer spend and the money they got for Ronaldo in 09 will be very well inflated as it was a long time ago. Makes the whole thing kind of pointless really (at least in a City v United) way as United obviously had high value assets at the start of the time period whereas City didn't.

 

[Metalartin]

Someone get on twitter and boo the guy for me. Needs the full UEFA treatment haha. :)

 

[Newman Noggs]

It's net transfer spend and the money they got for Ronaldo in 09 will be very well inflated as it was a long time ago. Makes the whole thing kind of pointless really (at least in a City v United) way as United obviously had high value assets at the start of the time period whereas City didn't.

This is something that is always ignored as is the value of the current "stock". Our squad far exceeds what we have paid for it and will only increase in value. The rags' squad loses value by the week.

 

[Jalfraag]

Someone get on twitter and boo the guy for me. Needs the full UEFA treatment haha. :)

I've questioned his time frame. I doubt the fucker will reply.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Exactly, if it's not aimed at City as he claims, then why since 2008? A more telling comparison would be the first 5 years since 2008 vs the last 5 years as the first 5 were the trickiest(catching up) and the last 5 shows how far we've come. He's not really interested in where we are heading though.

He does explain the inflation yes:

I don't think 10 years is unreasonable as a date range to use - if it had been 11 or 9 then it would look more dubious.
As you mention, it doesn't make any allowance for the immediate catch-up process before the imposition of FFP.

Inflation - thanks, I'd not seen that. Seems reasonable at first read.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Ha ha ! Hadn't spotted that. "Outliers like Neymar" and Pogba and Lukaku and Di Maria !

I think Neymar is the rogue one - 75M/90M isn't that extreme when you think of Ronaldo and Bale.

@CityStu also points out something that may have a disproportionate effect - it would have to be recalculated to know why.

The only flaw in it is that is missing the catch-up/initial values caveat.

 

[caseball]

Someone should send him a Cann league table and tell him we're the team that's hard to see riiiiiight at the top.

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

• I for one couldn't give a toss about how much we've spent. It's the way that humanity has developed ever since our caveman ancestors learned that it is far easier and far more civilised to barter their wares rather than club the next man to get their hands on his possessions. The only argument is what to barter with and how much of it to trade off in exchange for whatever the other man had hold of. Three sheep for your one cow might have been a good deal for each trader, but what if the cow was old and manky, or what if it is young and fully developed? On this basis, either fewer sheep could be traded OR a whole flock of sheep might have been required. And it is the same for any commodity you care to name, not least of all footballers. If the cow was as prize worthy as, say, De Bruyne, and the sheep were as valuable [relatively] as the Barca's youth squad, then there would be little chance of any deal, but if today's trading chips [money] were offered instead of livestock then there would have to be a whole load of it offered to make a deal possible. It's just a matter of what each dealer has and how willing each dealer is to make such a deal work to the satisfaction of each party. Journalists, and the general public too, do not seem to grasp this principle but are only too willing to pontificate on it as talk is cheap and easy and requires no knowledge whatsoever, the only qualification required to become an expert on these things is to have either a pen or a big mouth.

 

[Jordie]

• I for one couldn't give a toss about how much we've spent. It's the way that humanity has developed ever since our caveman ancestors learned that it is far easier and far more civilised to barter their wares rather than club the next man to get their hands on his possessions. The only argument is what to barter with and how much of it to trade off in exchange for whatever the other man had hold of. Three sheep for your one cow might have been a good deal for each trader, but what if the cow was old and manky, or what if it is young and fully developed? On this basis, either fewer sheep could be traded OR a whole flock of sheep might have been required. And it is the same for any commodity you care to name, not least of all footballers. If the cow was as prize worthy as, say, De Bruyne, and the sheep were as valuable [relatively] as the Barca's youth squad, then there would be little chance of any deal, but if today's trading chips [money] were offered instead of livestock then there would have to be a whole load of it offered to make a deal possible. It's just a matter of what each dealer has and how willing each dealer is to make such a deal work to the satisfaction of each party. Journalists, and the general public too, do not seem to grasp this principle but are only too willing to pontificate on it as talk is cheap and easy and requires no knowledge whatsoever, the only qualification required to become an expert on these things is to have either a pen or a big mouth.

Carlos Carvahal?