City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

[richards30]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

If UEFA class some of our sponsorship deals as related party, ie the Etihad deal and they do the same with PSG and their Qatar tourism deal.....would we be in breach of any regulations as far as FFP if those deals were swapped, let's say City and PSG came to an arrangement

So the Qataris sponsor City via whoever for £400 million and we in turn sponsor PSG via whoever for £400 million

The amounts would be the problem mate.

I still can't get my head round this. How can UEFA say what is a fair sponsorship? If a person feels that sponsoring City or PSG for £200m will benefit him personally or his company in a way that justifies the fee then how the fuck can UEFA do anything? Some people will pay £50m for Rooney, others wouldn't give the rags £20m for him. Are UEFA now going to say how much a club can pay for a player?

The rules have always stated obscene or big amounts would be investigated and more than often be refused as not a true value. City's beef is how we have been lied to and what we have been failed on.

 

[fbloke]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

Imagine if you will a situation where representatives of a hugely wealthy investor about to buy a football club were told to meet with a sport's governing body over some planned, new financial rules.

The wealthy investor sends his well connected group of advisors to the governing body where there are a number of meetings where the investor's plans were discussed, as were the financial regulations.

Both the awarding body and the investor go their separate ways happy that financial controls targeting debt were perfectly OK for the investor, as he was only interested in spending his own wealth to develop a club into a top level business.

The investor buys the club and spends large amounts of his own money over 3 or 4 years as this was OK'd by the governing body.But then he is told that the rules had changed and he was going to have to stop doing what he was told he could do. The main reason for that is because other clubs had got together and amended the rules.

I wonder who is in the deepest poo?

 

[nmc]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

Imagine if you will a situation where representatives of a hugely wealthy investor about to buy a football club were told to meet with a sport's governing body over some planned, new financial rules.

The wealthy investor sends his well connected group of advisors to the governing body where there are a number of meetings where the investor's plans were discussed, as were the financial regulations.

Both the awarding body and the investor go their separate ways happy that financial controls targeting debt were perfectly OK for the investor, as he was only interested in spending his own wealth to develop a club into a top level business.

The investor buys the club and spends large amounts of his own money over 3 or 4 years as this was OK'd by the governing body.But then he is told that the rules had changed and he was going to have to stop doing what he was told he could do. The main reason for that is because other clubs had got together and amended the rules.

I wonder who is in the deepest poo?

The ones pandering to the shits.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

Imagine if you will a situation where representatives of a hugely wealthy investor about to buy a football club were told to meet with a sport's governing body over some planned, new financial rules.

The wealthy investor sends his well connected group of advisors to the governing body where there are a number of meetings where the investor's plans were discussed, as were the financial regulations.

Both the awarding body and the investor go their separate ways happy that financial controls targeting debt were perfectly OK for the investor, as he was only interested in spending his own wealth to develop a club into a top level business.

The investor buys the club and spends large amounts of his own money over 3 or 4 years as this was OK'd by the governing body.But then he is told that the rules had changed and he was going to have to stop doing what he was told he could do. The main reason for that is because other clubs had got together and amended the rules.

I wonder who is in the deepest poo?

whoever isn't running the competition as they'll be brown enveloped out of any chance of winning it for pissing off those that do.

We need UEFA to be on our side and wanting to destroy the cartel for their own gain and power consolidation, that's what I'm hoping we're working towards, and I hope the appointment of the likes of Gill into influential positions is to ensure they do the dirty work, fall on the sword and thus the rest of the European club scene turns on the cartel and we get a nice set of new agreements in a couple of years with UEFA on top and the cartel having to play ball.

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

So what's the latest. I can't remember where I last read the thread. Thanks

 

[yeah whatever !!]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

The amounts would be the problem mate.

I still can't get my head round this. How can UEFA say what is a fair sponsorship? If a person feels that sponsoring City or PSG for £200m will benefit him personally or his company in a way that justifies the fee then how the fuck can UEFA do anything? Some people will pay £50m for Rooney, others wouldn't give the rags £20m for him. Are UEFA now going to say how much a club can pay for a player?

The rules have always stated obscene or big amounts would be investigated and more than often be refused as not a true value. City's beef is how we have been lied to and what we have been failed on.

But surely if a sponsorship amount is obscene or 'big' this amount would help fight off any risk of going under/bankrupt/administration..which is what FFP is supposed to be about..??

So clubs cannot spend above their means cos this could risk financial hardship and risk of going under/bankrupt/administration..but on the other hand these clubs cannot also get obscene sponsorship deals which would fend off the risk of financial hardship and risk of going under/bankrupt/administration ??.How arse about face this FFP really is....

So corrupt im surprised president Putin hasnt got his finger in this lucrative pie..

 

[Paladin]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

So what's the latest. I can't remember where I last read the thread. Thanks

To summarise, UEFA are suggesting a deduction of one point from our Premiership points tally, effective immediately.

 

[Centurions]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

So what's the latest. I can't remember where I last read the thread. Thanks

To summarise, UEFA are suggesting a deduction of one point from our Premiership points tally, effective immediately.

I believe they're talking 3 points actually but will compromise on just the 1.

 

[gmckennasell]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

perhaps city and PSG should make a stand regarding the salary cap on the squad , we should both leave out our world class players like , aguero,yaya,silva ,vinny , ibrahomivic,cavini , pastore etc and play the EDS side , and see how budweiser and the other sponsors like the competition being devalued , they would potentially lose millions in sponsorship .

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

So what's the latest. I can't remember where I last read the thread. Thanks

To summarise, UEFA are suggesting a deduction of one point from our Premiership points tally, effective immediately.

I believe they're talking 3 points actually but will compromise on just the 1.

Oh well.
I take it Liverpool have already been given the title