City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

[Exeter Blue I am here]

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He is right. But it has been apparent FROM DAY ONE that this is all about the cartel. Where were these journos then?
At least they can see this is totally wrong now.

Exactly right, which is why I marvel that this seems to have come as a surprise to many on here.

Right from the word go, Platini mentioned City (and City alone) in just about every speech relating to FFP, a practice which ceased some 6 to 12 months ago presumably only as the result of UEFA's own lawyers intervening to prevent their case from becoming compromised.

Every aspect of FFP is a carefully orchestrated charade, complete with moving goalposts and false promises, all at the behest of the cartel, but I think many City fans are being extremely naive if they think victory in Court is either a) guaranteed or b) likely to result in UEFA finally playing ball.

If I had to make a couple of predictions they would be that if we go to the Court of Arbritration we will be given a Champions League ban, something that UEFA both wants and is trying to goad us into, as they can't hit us with such a punishment initially without lamping PSG with the same hammer. If we then go all the way through to the law Courts and win, they will either simply exclude us from future European competitions (they're invite only remember), or redraft their own qualifying criteria to the same effect.

Rummenigge, Gill and all the rest of those horrible bent cunts want us nobbled. The CL squad limitation clause will do that without a shadow of doubt. We need to refresh our squad with Europe's finest over the next 3 years (Silva, Ya Ya, Dzeko, Kompers are all 28+), but won't be able to do so. They know we can't accept that clause, and, unlike most posters, I don't expect a compromise to be reached. Remember who lies behind the concept of FFP and what their motivation is. No matter how shamelessly they have to behave, they will do what is necessary to achieve their goals.
Oh, and if we do pursue the matter further, don't expect Everton to be the recipient of our vacated CL spot. Unprecedented situation......short notice.......felt it best to issue an invite to.......?! There's too many people on here thinking like decent, fair minded human beings. That's not who or what we're dealing with. Money talks

Not saying I think you're barking up the wrong tree or anything but crikey, I bet you're a bundle of laughs on a night out ;)

Ha ha! I'm actually worse!

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

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Rummenigge, Gill and all the rest of those horrible bent cunts want us nobbled.

They had better be very careful then as they might find they are the ones who get nobbled.

 

[BringBackSwales]

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and when uefa have finished fucking us about for the CL watch out for the muPL fucking us about for the PL in a similar way

 

[Lancet Fluke]

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This may have been covered, but the squad size thing puzzles me somewhat. If we are reduced to a squad of 21, then the number of home grown players should reduce proportionally, however, all the speculation on this seems to say the reduction will only come from the 'main' category (17 players). As it's all guesswork at this time, it's probably just the media putting the worst spin on things.

The other categories are 4 association trained and 4 club trained players btw.

Isnt that discriminatory in itself. A rule that specifically punishes foreign players only.

What happens if we grudgingly accept this bullshit and then can only have 13 players in the CL squad who are not English/homegrown? The senior players who have clearly missed out on CL football and the knock on financial/career rewards that that can bring must have a case for taking UEFA to task. Everyone assumes that it will be a club that starts a war with UEFA over this but I'd have thought that if a player did it then the EU courts would struggle more to go along with FFP as it stands. In fact you'd think if a player from the EU missed out on a CL squad just under the usual squad restrictions then he'd have a pretty good case if he took UEFA to court.

 

[Cobwebcat]

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Anyone get the feeling that a lot is going on in the background and we will never know the full story?!

 

[nickson71]

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Anyone get the feeling that a lot is going on in the background and we will never know the full story?!

yep

 

[BigOscar]

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If we don't agree to the puishment, there is absolutely no doubt that the "independent" panel will ban us from Europe along with a probably even larger fine. If they don't then it completly undermines UEFA's "offers". At the moment, they are pretty much blackmailing us with the threat of sending it to the panel, so it's pretty clear that the panel has to do worse than the offer. They know that if they do that then we will then take them to court and we will win, so they are essentially putting all their eggs in the basket of hoping everyone just meekly agrees. We have to call their bluff, there is no other option imo

 

[blueparrot]

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Anyone get the feeling that a lot is going on in the background and we will never know the full story?!

Yes I get that feeling. I assume we have asked for a point by point list of our failure and will be getting legal backing for our answers to each point.

 

[Fallingbostel Blue]

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This sums it up for me; Quotes from Platini's interview with Martin Samuel.

Platini: Yes. Trust me on football.In financial fair play perhaps no but on football. It was asked by Scotland and Ireland, then for one year when I become president, it was 2007, for one year-and-a-half I think about that because it was decided in Vienna, just before the final of the Euro 2008. I saw more advantages that not. First of all the criteria of the team, I think we can have 24 good teams. Because in 2008 we have not one British team.


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[aguero93:20]

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Anyone get the feeling that a lot is going on in the background and we will never know the full story?!

Pretty much, same as any half-arsed Judicial/Disciplinary process tbf