City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

Re: City & FFP (continued)

I have mentioned this before but surely UEFA are treading very dangerous ground here at the moment?

If that Bosman lawyer wins his case in court against FFP, then surely the corrupt cartel protecting fuckers will have to pay back every penny in fines and could also be sued for making clubs comply with an illegal law?
 
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paulchapo said:
I have mentioned this before but surely UEFA are treading very dangerous ground here at the moment?

If that Bosman lawyer wins his case in court against FFP, then surely the corrupt cartel protecting fuckers will have to pay back every penny in fines and could also be sued for making clubs comply with an illegal law?
Highly likely, especially if the club have refused all settlements.
 
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Dribble said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
somapop said:
Much as I want to see the fancy plans for the collar site, you can understand why they developed the academy and community/college aspects first.
That's been a major trump card to play when the negativity gets a little too much. Aside from the initial Sulaiman Al Fahim hiccups the professionalism has been second to none. The 'build then talk about it'/watertight thoughts behind doors has been 'outstanding.
One cannot help but wonder if there'd been such haste to bring in FFP if Sulaiman Al Fahim hadn't mouthed off so much in September 2008.
This.

The good thing is that we quickly kicked him and his loads a money bullshit to the kerb. We are still trying to recover from that damage in the eyes of many and I fear irrespective of what we do in the future, that assumption about us will follow us around for years to come like 'same old Arsenal, always cheating'.

Every opportunity opposing managers get to mention money in relation to us, they take. Will we ever shake this assumption off? I don't know but it seriously pisses me off when it constantly gets mentioned.

Yes, I agree. The £100m Kaka bid was another catalyst imho. It was too big, too audacious for us at our stage of our development. Now perhaps as double league champions with an established squad and CL progress. But back then it was like a red rag to a bull. Platini mentioned it repeatedly as being totally wrong and although that was hypocritical given the similar sized deals that are done by other clubs, in a way I can see his point.

For all they knew at the time, we were going to just blow the whole of the establishment out of the water with a £1bn superteam that would render all competition null and void for the foreseeable. The fact that we were on a track to produce a solid, self-sustaining business, investing in the community etc perhaps sounded like hollow promises.

Perhaps we could have handled it better in hindsight, with a more softly softly approach. Dunno.
 
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Chippy_boy said:
Dribble said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
One cannot help but wonder if there'd been such haste to bring in FFP if Sulaiman Al Fahim hadn't mouthed off so much in September 2008.
This.

The good thing is that we quickly kicked him and his loads a money bullshit to the kerb. We are still trying to recover from that damage in the eyes of many and I fear irrespective of what we do in the future, that assumption about us will follow us around for years to come like 'same old Arsenal, always cheating'.

Every opportunity opposing managers get to mention money in relation to us, they take. Will we ever shake this assumption off? I don't know but it seriously pisses me off when it constantly gets mentioned.

Yes, I agree. The £100m Kaka bid was another catalyst imho. It was too big, too audacious for us at our stage of our development. Now perhaps as double league champions with an established squad and CL progress. But back then it was like a red rag to a bull. Platini mentioned it repeatedly as being totally wrong and although that was hypocritical given the similar sized deals that are done by other clubs, in a way I can see his point.

For all they knew at the time, we were going to just blow the whole of the establishment out of the water with a £1bn superteam that would render all competition null and void for the foreseeable. The fact that we were on a track to produce a solid, self-sustaining business, investing in the community etc perhaps sounded like hollow promises.

Perhaps we could have handled it better in hindsight, with a more softly softly approach. Dunno.
I think you're all attaching too much importance to a couple of events early on in the take-over, if they wanted a reason to come after us it's that we're going to permanently take one of Arsenal/Chelsea/Liverpool/Scum's place in the Champions League, even though we'll match any of them for global viewing figures soon enough. In fact, I reckon plan B could well be a 5th champions league spot for the Spanish and English Leagues and maybe 4th spot back in Italy (also makes the Bundesliga's 4th spot safe so it'll keep them happy too)
 
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Jacks77 said:
Richard Conway ‏@richard_conway 29 min

Starting to resemble Groundhog Day but.. we may learn later if Manchester City reached a deal with Uefa over FFP. Then again, we may not.

Some bbc journo has some info or he has not.:)

Hedging his bets there clearly a KFA.
 
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nmc said:
Jacks77 said:
Richard Conway ‏@richard_conway 29 min

Starting to resemble Groundhog Day but.. we may learn later if Manchester City reached a deal with Uefa over FFP. Then again, we may not.

Some bbc journo has some info or he has not.:)

Hedging his bets there clearly a KFA.
You think? ;-)
 
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Apropos of nothing, a Scouse mate of mine (dyed in the wool Scouse but not an obsessive candle waver) posted this elsewhere. Thought it amusing. It's the top 7 in the league:

1. Arab money
2. American money
3. Russian money
4. Don't spend money
5. What's money?
6. Gareth Bale money
7. Waste of money

Made me chuckle anyway.
 
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Can someone please clarify - any official news on PSG? - I read they were being fined £20 million and do they face the same squad sanctions as us? It seems PSG blatantly broke the FFP rules and if Citys £35 million sposnosrship deal is considered 'not fair' then what is the backdated sponsorship deal that PSG have, its a complete piss take!!

It sounds like we are being treated completely differently to PSG and with Platini's family links to PSG that means he is looking very corrupt indeed!!
 
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Could it be that the emperor (UEFA) is in fact nude and we have nothing to worry about whatsoever?
 

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