City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

laserblue said:
redmanc34 said:
Yeah but look at your average attendance, 46,000 while the works being done, yet GMP confirmed on November 5th the attendance at the CSKA game was around 36,000, nobody questions your loyalty do they
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I call bullshit. I was at the CSKA game and there were more than 36,000 there. I've also looked on the GMP site and found nothing whatsoever to corroborate your statement. I did, however, find that despite the rags claiming full houses there were 30,000 empty seats for the CL match against Cluj two seasons ago plus 20,000 empty seats against Braga and 15,000 empty seats against Galatasaray. And that was despite 55,000 season ticket holders being forced at gunpoint to buy tickets for these games. Oh, and the classic 42,000 empty seats for the League Cup game against Newcastle when they weren't.
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Well over 40k, minus the corporate CSKA handful that were removed from the south stand, of course.
 
-nibz- said:
Part of the tv/ muen deal at the swamp is not to show the upper tiers
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You can imagine what the other upper tiers would have looked like that night.

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And don't forget.

Man United season ticket holders must buy Cambridge ticket or face ban <a class="postlink" href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-united-season-ticket-holders-8536506" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... rs-8536506</a>

Also.

United threaten to stop season ticket holders going to the City game - unless they buy Olympiacos tickets <a class="postlink" href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/united-threaten-season-ticket-fans-6750860" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ns-6750860</a>
 
Tbilisi said:
redmanc34 said:
Tbilisi said:
You are discounting Atletico then from your statement?
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There was a few at Malaga the other week when they played. about 100, Malaga usually take 1,000 at least. Couldn't tell you if Atleti go La Coruna and that, but I know Malaga do, and that's a mission
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I followed Atletico in my time in Spain and believe me they are the best away supported team in that country.....that said,Rick can we keep him?
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I followed Betis in my time there, before the Qatari takeover of Malaga and we brought more to Malaga's stadium than they did. But I like this rag,he's funny.
 
jrb said:
-nibz- said:
Part of the tv/ muen deal at the swamp is not to show the upper tiers
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You can imagine what the other upper tiers would have looked like that night.

Ghc2uit.jpg


And don't forget.

Man United season ticket holders must buy Cambridge ticket or face ban <a class="postlink" href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-united-season-ticket-holders-8536506" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... rs-8536506</a>

Also.

United threaten to stop season ticket holders going to the City game - unless they buy Olympiacos tickets <a class="postlink" href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/united-threaten-season-ticket-fans-6750860" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ns-6750860</a>
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You couldn't spot the empty seats on tv as easy at ot because of the dull red. Same with arsenal.Now we've got hd...
 
Filling a stadium is one thing but filling it with the right type of supporter that will create the atmosphere of yesteryear is another.
Whether we like it or not the price of the tickets is the main stumbling block for the thing that sells our game abroad, ie support rather than polite applause.
Corporate ticket sales are assuming a greater proportion of our ticket sales to raise extra revenue as part of our income strategy so I hope our owners have factored in a reduction in atmosphere element.
We are not alone in the PL with this policy and hopefully the very people who have paid massively for the privilege to broadcast our game will be able to live with reduction in appeal to overseas viewers this will convey.
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

They never crowed about empty seats when they won stuff. It's a straw to clutch to in same way we used 'only team from Manchester' when they were winning stuff. At the end of the day it's all just bullshit dick swinging that doesn't really matter.

What matters is winning things and back on thread topic, the most frustrating thing about ffpr is not knowing for sure the impact it had on us. The club can say we were always looking for sustainability but were we really? The last thing they would want is to look like they were forced into it, they want to appear on control.
 
City Raider said:
They never crowed about empty seats when they won stuff. It's a straw to clutch to in same way we used 'only team from Manchester' when they were winning stuff. At the end of the day it's all just bullshit dick swinging that doesn't really matter.

What matters is winning things and back on thread topic, the most frustrating thing about ffpr is not knowing for sure the impact it had on us. The club can say we were always looking for sustainability but were we really? The last thing they would want is to look like they were forced into it, they want to appear on control.
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Yes we really were, the Sheikh is no mug and looks at everything long term.
 
ColinLee said:
City Raider said:
They never crowed about empty seats when they won stuff. It's a straw to clutch to in same way we used 'only team from Manchester' when they were winning stuff. At the end of the day it's all just bullshit dick swinging that doesn't really matter.

What matters is winning things and back on thread topic, the most frustrating thing about ffpr is not knowing for sure the impact it had on us. The club can say we were always looking for sustainability but were we really? The last thing they would want is to look like they were forced into it, they want to appear on control.
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Yes we really were, the Sheikh is no mug and looks at everything long term.
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Whether by luck or design, by dint of the levels of money pouring into the Premier League, how can anyone say we aren't at the point of sustainability right now?
 
jrb said:
-nibz- said:
Part of the tv/ muen deal at the swamp is not to show the upper tiers
Click to expand...

You can imagine what the other upper tiers would have looked like that night.

Ghc2uit.jpg


And don't forget.

Man United season ticket holders must buy Cambridge ticket or face ban <a class="postlink" href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-united-season-ticket-holders-8536506" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... rs-8536506</a>

Also.

United threaten to stop season ticket holders going to the City game - unless they buy Olympiacos tickets <a class="postlink" href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/united-threaten-season-ticket-fans-6750860" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ns-6750860</a>
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Did the MEN run a story circling the empty seats in this picture? Thought not.
 
Can one of the blues clued up on FFP give it to us straight on this FFP situation please

I have been told that FFP relates to a 3 year period in terms of what can be spent, with the required signings that we know are needed, the question is are we able to go out and spend this summer to get the squad required for next season ???
 
BlueMoonz1977 said:
Can one of the blues clued up on FFP give it to us straight on this FFP situation please

I have been told that FFP relates to a 3 year period in terms of what can be spent, with the required signings that we know are needed, the question is are we able to go out and spend this summer to get the squad required for next season ???
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Short story, yes.

Transfers aren't paid for like you'd buy something from the shop, instead they are paid for more like how you'd buy a house.

If we buy somebody for £100m over a 5 year contract, it is listed on our books that that person costs us £20m per year because transfer fee/contract = yearly cost.

So when we see we have £40m to spend on the books, we can spend £10m a year on 4 players which if they're all on 5 year deals would mean a gross spend of £200m in one window.

Obviously this doesn't include wages but it also doesn't include any other stuff like selling players who are already costing us X amount of money per year either.
 
The question I wanted to ask though, is what sort of matchday revenue increases can we see coming out of the corporate sector rather than our pockets?
 
Damocles said:
BlueMoonz1977 said:
Can one of the blues clued up on FFP give it to us straight on this FFP situation please

I have been told that FFP relates to a 3 year period in terms of what can be spent, with the required signings that we know are needed, the question is are we able to go out and spend this summer to get the squad required for next season ???
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Short story, yes.

Transfers aren't paid for like you'd buy something from the shop, instead they are paid for more like how you'd buy a house.

If we buy somebody for £100m over a 5 year contract, it is listed on our books that that person costs us £20m per year because transfer fee/contract = yearly cost.

So when we see we have £40m to spend on the books, we can spend £10m a year on 4 players which if they're all on 5 year deals would mean a gross spend of £200m in one window.

Obviously this doesn't include wages but it also doesn't include any other stuff like selling players who are already costing us X amount of money per year either.
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Thanks Damo for clearing that up. I reckon ticket prices going up was inevitable because it is all about being self sufficient and ticket revenue whether we like it or not is one part of that
 
as long as these greedy UEFA twats can keep their noses in the trough they won't worry that the trough size is shrinking the self-serving expense happy c.unts
 
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