City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

[cookster]

Give me some credit. I got the teams and manager right!
So they didn't buy any Huddersfield players then?
And Arsenal didn't move to Highbury from Woolwich?
And it wasn't financial doping?

Other than that, I should have started with "once upon a time....."

;-)

Try this next time Buddy ;)

 

[Fat Chance]

Give me some credit. I got the teams and manager right!
So they didn't buy any Huddersfield players then?
And Arsenal didn't move to Highbury from Woolwich?
And it wasn't financial doping?

Other than that, I should have started with "once upon a time.......... http://www.blog.woolwicharsenal.co.uk/archives/5215

;-)

 

[JGL07]

Would be interesting to say the least how it got decided. Spurs and Liverpool rank in the middle the Forbes top 20 so I would expect them in regardless of a lack of recent wins. Liverpool also has a sizeable international following which would help that type of league with TV revenues.

Can't just use Forbes/Forbes though as teams like Leicester, West Ham, and Newcastle occasionally pop up on that list. There would be lots of pressure for regional balance too.

There would be a diplomatic row with Norway if Liverpool were excluded.

 

[Blue Pete]

Actually I would expect there to be two leagues with promotion and relegation between them. This would allow the old cartel clubs to make it into the league even if they are going through a relative bad patch. I would assume the historic big leagues (England, Spain, Italy, German) to take the lions share of places with one to three from some of the smaller leagues (allowing the Scottish Big two for example - after all Celtic have won it and still qualify most years).

I would point out I don't actually want this to happen but I think it's the only way that some cartel clubs can remain on the big stage. Personally I'd go back to European Cup with just winners of leagues and the holders, but that will never happen again.

 

[Metalartin]

Bit surprised Citywatch retweeted this:

*PSG would be higher if the Mbappé fee was included also.*

Without this:


Look how much the high and mighty Barca have spent the past two seasons, if only we knew how to get a decent fee on player sales, then again do we want to have to sell a Neymar type player?

 

[Kinkys Left Foot]

-186 MMmmmmmm is someone telling porkies

Season 17/18 Purchase Cost
Lindelöf £31,000,000
Romelu Lukaku £75,000,000
Nemanja Matić £40,000,000
£146,000,000
Season 16/17
Eric Bailly £30,000,000
Zlatan Ibrahimovic Free
Henrikh Mkhitaryan £30,000,000
Paul Pogba £89,000,000
£149,000,000

Net Spend £238

Citys is £282 according to my figures

 

[City_Sean]

I find it hard to believe that our squad cost over £100m more than United’s.

 

[jonmcity]

I find it hard to believe that our squad cost over £100m more than United’s.

Its certainly worth more than £100m more than theirs.

 

[City_Sean]

Its certainly worth more than £100m more than theirs.

Haha! I do think on these type of studies you should certainly factor in inflation of when the clubs bought some of the players. Ronaldo in 2009 was £70m, which is an absurd sum in today’s accounting for inflation.

 

[JASR]

Haha! I do think on these type of studies you should certainly factor in inflation of when the clubs bought some of the players. Ronaldo in 2009 was £70m, which is an absurd sum in today’s accounting for inflation.

You also need to take into account amortisation and player annual costs, eg wages.

That would add in Rooneys Everton subsidisation, ibrahimovics sky high take home and sanchez’s Dog parlour funding.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

You also need to take into account amortisation and player annual costs, eg wages.

That would add in Rooneys Everton subsidisation, ibrahimovics sky high take home and sanchez’s Dog parlour funding.

To be meaningful, yes, but CIES are statsmonkeys who create 'stories' by manipulation of data. That is all they do and they do it to provoke re-publication. They are not in it for meaning.

 

[AustinBlue]

I find it hard to believe that our squad cost over £100m more than United’s.

By their math, Sanchez was "free", Ibrahimovich "free". In reality Sanchez cost them 55mill plus plus plus. The fees paid to agents for Pogba and Sanchez and Ibrahimovich are charitable donations. etc.

 

[Bob Smiles]

-186 MMmmmmmm is someone telling porkies

Season 17/18 Purchase Cost
Lindelöf £31,000,000
Romelu Lukaku £75,000,000
Nemanja Matić £40,000,000
£146,000,000
Season 16/17
Eric Bailly £30,000,000
Zlatan Ibrahimovic Free
Henrikh Mkhitaryan £30,000,000
Paul Pogba £89,000,000
£149,000,000

Net Spend £238

Citys is £282 according to my figures

They say last two transfer windows so I’m guessing that January just gone and last summer

 

[dickie davies]

Its certainly worth more than £100m more than theirs.

KDB on his own is worth £100m more than united's squad

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

You also need to take into account amortisation and player annual costs, eg wages.

Correct.

Net capital spend is a load of bollocks as a meaningful measure. Our true net spend last summer was effectively zero, or maybe even negative, as our amortisation and wages were reduced as a result of the sale or release of 17 players and that fully funded the new amortisation and wages for incoming players. In addition, we made a significant profit (at least £50m) on some of those players we sold, notably Iheanacho, Mooy and Unal, as well as some of the others.

 

[taleofbluehalves]

I find it hard to believe that our squad cost over £100m more than United’s.

Looks a heck of a lot more on paper. I think they need to spend another 300-400m to catch up.

 

[yeseye]

Looks a heck of a lot more on paper. I think they need to spend another 300-400m to catch up.

Every year...

 

[Newtoncc]

-186 MMmmmmmm is someone telling porkies

Season 17/18 Purchase Cost
Lindelöf £31,000,000
Romelu Lukaku £75,000,000
Nemanja Matić £40,000,000
£146,000,000
Season 16/17
Eric Bailly £30,000,000
Zlatan Ibrahimovic Free
Henrikh Mkhitaryan £30,000,000
Paul Pogba £89,000,000
£149,000,000

Net Spend £238

Citys is £282 according to my figures

Wow i did not realise what value for money they have received for their outlay, absolute gems.

 

[Silvas' left eyebrow]

We've spent lots of money but look where we are, that's where the money has gone. If you want to win on a regular basis you spend money. It's like this now, it was like this 10 years ago, and it was like this 80 years ago.

We had to spend a lot to catch up with the cartel teams. In recent times that has been both us and PSG, the cartel introduced ffp to stop us, it failed.

The Premiership signs a new deal making it richer than everyone else. The cartel look to ffp2.

If it fails I think you will see the cartel set up a nice cosy European league, it will probably need to include us and PSG but that just means we will have become part of the cartel.

this

 

[razman]

http://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2018/02/12/5a817e7d46163f29638b4578.html

Paris Saint-Germain and Financial Fair Play doubts

Interesting Article basically UEFA not buying into their sponsorship deals. I trust our club has this sorted out , given how bent UEFA are.

Parts of the article

This issue is the sponsorship deals which justify the incredible expenditure and in March the Committee of Financial Control for Clubs will dictate a judgement on the sponsorship deals signed by PSG.

They will determine whether they are legitimate deals, however to this point it is understood that UEFA considers them to be illegitimate and akin to a state owned team.