City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

[Balti]

manYoo crisis debt ridden club owned by leeches that don't give a fuck

Now theres a model for every club to aspire to

Nice to see UEFA on the case

 

[jaiden]

If the regulations were deemed illegal under EU law i would love to see the look on twatini's face when he hears the judgement ! Surely they would be found contrary to Eu law on competition/ freedom of workers/ freedom to provide services!

 

[BlueAnorak]

The idea of FFP is sound - however the implementation is purely designed to make sure that only the snouts of the big boys are in the money trough.

The difference between qualifying for the champions league group games and not qualifying is already £31m and will soon be £55m+. Yet by FFP an investor can only invest a ludicrously small amount in comparison per season.

When they hit us hard - and they will. It will be messy. It will go to court.
We will probably win. But there is no guarantee.

To maximize our chances we must present a solution that prevents City and PSG from wiping out the competition but which allows every club to compete - without creating a cartel.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

The idea of FFP is sound - however the implementation is purely designed to make sure that only the snouts of the big boys are in the money trough.

The difference between qualifying for the champions league group games and not qualifying is already £31m and will soon be £55m+. Yet by FFP an investor can only invest a ludicrously small amount in comparison per season.

When they hit us hard - and they will. It will be messy. It will go to court.
We will probably win. But there is no guarantee.

To maximize our chances we must present a solution that prevents City and PSG from wiping out the competition but which allows every club to compete - without creating a cartel.

Sadly I think you're right. The whole raison d'être of FFP is to scupper the chances of anyone new stealing money and trophies out from under the noses of the old guard. Liverpool, Barca, Madrid, Milan, Munich, Arsenal and the Rags. It wouldn't matter if we were sponsored by the most ethical and honest companies in the world, brow beaten by those ex G14 clubs, UEFA will find whatever fault needs to be found, regardless of how utterly shameless that search may appear. I mean it's not like they're an organisation with a history of corruption and naked self service, is it? Oh, wait, hang on a mo.....!
As Tolmie says, the 76 club thing is a sham, a smokescreen to buy time to pour through City's figures with a microscope. Personally, I think where the rags finish may have some bearing, and I'd say we will only suffer the unkindest cut of all if those cnuts finish 5th. If they do, then the opportunity to parachute its biggest cash cow back into the Chimps League at our expense, may prove too great a temptation for UEFA, irrespective of the naked transparency of such an action.
Might be paranoia on my part (and I have got previous), but that doesn't mean the bastards aren't out to get us

 

[MC ID]

Only a few months back I thought the general consensus on here was that we'll be fine and know what we are doing, playing their game. What the hell happened?

Jeez I should never look in this thread, makes me think we won't be a football club come next year.

 

[unexpected item]

I don't for a minute think we will be kicked out of next season's champions league should we qualify, more likely getting a stern warning or maybe a decrease in squad size by 1 or 2 players for the group phase. However, should they decide to exclude us for 2014/15 then any legal challenge by us would stop the whole champions league from taking place, at least until the challenge was heard in court, surely?

 

[George Hannah]

Only a few months back I thought the general consensus on here was that we'll be fine and know what we are doing, playing their game. What the hell happened?

Jeez I should never look in this thread, makes me think we won't be a football club come next year.

the silence from the Prestwich region is deafening

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Only a few months back I thought the general consensus on here was that we'll be fine and know what we are doing, playing their game. What the hell happened?

Jeez I should never look in this thread, makes me think we won't be a football club come next year.

the silence from the Prestwich region is deafening

The Shabbat has started.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Only a few months back I thought the general consensus on here was that we'll be fine and know what we are doing, playing their game. What the hell happened?

Jeez I should never look in this thread, makes me think we won't be a football club come next year.

the silence from the Prestwich region is deafening

The Shabba has started.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

the silence from the Prestwich region is deafening

The Shabba has started.

I'm more of an Abba man, myself.

 

[CitizenTID]

(Also posted under coefficient thread)....

The forty odd years I like many have stuck with City and seen what we have seen despite the 'Cinderella' moment in 2008 when the Sheikh took over and the fairytale since that great day, still leaves me totally cynical about what is round the corner with F (un)F P

There is an 'ugly sister' across town that cannot stand our success (cannot stand anyone's other than their own for that matter) and Gill notwithstanding his 'none executive' status is still very much an MUFC man through and through.

Maybe I am just deliberately expecting the worse (whilst hoping for the best) because it is kind of the way you prepared yourself as a blue through the 80's, 90's and 00's but, I believe that there is definitely a hidden agenda to get us banned from UCL.

I believe the tipping point is MUFC not qualifying and the money go round, TV audiences blah blah blah, hysteria that goes with it.

Gill first at the FA and now UEFA is I believe on a mission. To protect the interests of his own tw@t infested club through a role in its governing bodies. Why on earth would that deceitful bastard want the role? He is on secondment not a career change.

FFP in its current form is as we know a complete f*cking joke with one underlying objective.

It makes my blood boil that these corrupt wankers can get something so blatantly biased through. Even more so that it can go relatively unchallenged apart from Martin Samuel and to an extend Andy Jacobs (TS).

Look at the timeline : Everything formally kicks in as soon as the season ends. This will manifest itself early in the close season and I believe will certainly in our case be processed quickly Kangaroo court style . They have through the media / comments / interviews etc been grooming everyone for it since the start of the season but, there is a 3 month window for players/signings who goes where/who is in the UCL etc.

I read with great interest informed posts on the subject by the likes of PB and hope I am completely wrong and that the club do have it under control.

When you consider the hoo ha in society when it comes to corruption , bias and prejudice in other areas I think the club should if need be take this outside the football arena.

Mansour has invested billions not just in our beloved club but in the long term future of one of our major cities and most deprived areas. Through the local politician, house of parliament, MEP, then Euro parliament etc we should fight on the wider reaching International political stage everything that ponzi bunch of self interested, greedy , hypocritical corrupt f*ckwits throw at us from their ivory football tower!

Mods, move to F(un)FP thread if appropriate.

We best give FC Barcelona a good hiding then and win it this year

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Only a few months back I thought the general consensus on here was that we'll be fine and know what we are doing, playing their game. What the hell happened?

Jeez I should never look in this thread, makes me think we won't be a football club come next year.

the silence from the Prestwich region is deafening

The Shabbat has started.

Oy Vay!

Quit the doom and gloom. The last two years are the only ones that could give us any grief and we'll be alright on those. This year onwards we're home and dry. There will be no sanctions this summer and, even if there are, they would be suspended. Why would UEFA punish a club that is clearly going to comply with the rules?

 

[Newman Noggs]

Only a few months back I thought the general consensus on here was that we'll be fine and know what we are doing, playing their game. What the hell happened?

Jeez I should never look in this thread, makes me think we won't be a football club come next year.

I think people are getting nervous because the tipping point is drawing closer by the day. If the knock on the door doesn't come this summer, it never will. That it is coming in one form or another isn't in doubt. That the most influential clubs behind UEFA would like us eliminated is also in no doubt as far as I am concerned, (although there are those who disagree and I sincerely hope that they are right). . The strident posturing from the likes of Gill and Platini will, I expect, grow stronger the closer we get to that tipping point because, nervous as some of us may be, there are football businesses out there who are absolutely banking on UEFA throwing us out.

My view is that the way the rules have been drafted and manipulated to fit the varied requirements of certain scenarios, i.e. exclude certain clubs with lots of debt whilst including clubs with none, has rendered them impossible to enforce with any degree of coherence or honesty. The unanswered question is how shameless and corrupt UEFA are prepared to show themselves to be in bowing to pressure from the usual suspects. Doubtless we will find out shortly.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Only a few months back I thought the general consensus on here was that we'll be fine and know what we are doing, playing their game. What the hell happened?

Jeez I should never look in this thread, makes me think we won't be a football club come next year.

I think people are getting nervous because the tipping point is drawing closer by the day. If the knock on the door doesn't come this summer, it never will. That it is coming in one form or another isn't in doubt. That the most influential clubs behind UEFA would like us eliminated is also in no doubt as far as I am concerned, (although there are those who disagree and I sincerely hope that they are right). . The strident posturing from the likes of Gill and Platini will, I expect, grow stronger the closer we get to that tipping point because, nervous as some of us may be, there are football businesses out there who are absolutely banking on UEFA throwing us out.

My view is that the way the rules have been drafted and manipulated to fit the varied requirements of certain scenarios, i.e. exclude certain clubs with lots of debt whilst including clubs with none, has rendered them impossible to enforce with any degree of coherence or honesty. The unanswered question is how shameless and corrupt UEFA are prepared to show themselves to be in bowing to pressure from the usual suspects. Doubtless we will find out shortly.

I think we both know the answer to that unfortunately......

 

[George Hannah]

the silence from the Prestwich region is deafening

The Shabbat has started.

Oy Vay!

Quit the doom and gloom. The last two years are the only ones that could give us any grief and we'll be alright on those. This year onwards we're home and dry. There will be no sanctions this summer and, even if there are, they would be suspended. Why would UEFA punish a club that is clearly going to comply with the rules?

Even I know the answer to that!

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Not only that but we could probably put a compelling case forward to UEFA and the cartel that their revenues would go up with us involved.

1) if they sanction us too heavily we'll fight it in court and do serious financial and reputation damage to UEFA, something they really don't need.
2) We can argue that banning us will reduce TV and commercial interest through the lack of our star players on show, our global positioning as part of the Premier League and mouth-watering ties such as potential for a Manchester derby in the CL, City v Barca, City v Bayern, City v Real which have all proven to be hugely popular ties.
3) Issues with potential sponsors, international TV rights and what have you if we're kicked out and therefore whether TV companies and sponsors can kick off if UEFA are not fulfilling their side of the deal. I would love to see the reaction from the Gulf, South America, Africa in terms of TV rights if the likes of Kun and Yaya are not going to be able to participate and whether UEFA would have covered themselves in their small print when selling the TV rights, potential loss of revenue argument from sponsors should we be excluded. The pressure alone could tell.
4) They could end up with a messy Heineken Cup style situation should they start to mess around with very powerful and wealthy people, and that's not to mention that we could start pushing through reforms on our terms should we go to court, win the case and start having UEFA in our hands with the ECJ behind us "reforming FFPR" and damaging the status quo through popular vote with all the other teams in the major leagues wanting to smash the monopoly.

The status quo just doesn't last, this one has survived 20 years but even it's starting to shake at the core.

 

[baildon blue]

Its getting me worried all this ffp shit . I hope for the love of god we don't get shit on by David Gill and his friends

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

The Shabbat has started.

Oy Vay!

Quit the doom and gloom. The last two years are the only ones that could give us any grief and we'll be alright on those. This year onwards we're home and dry. There will be no sanctions this summer and, even if there are, they would be suspended. Why would UEFA punish a club that is clearly going to comply with the rules?

Even I know the answer to that!

Let's put it another way then. Why would UEFA punish a club which is going to comply with the rules anyway and which they know would fuck them completely if they did punish them?

Thw whole thing is an elaborate game. They will huff and puff, make all sorts of noises and threats and may even fluff their feathers. But they won't do anything serious.

 

[Blue_Rossy]

Im pretty confident that the clubs got the worlds best lawyers on the case, its not like they cant afford it.
Theres no way, city haven't got all there bases checked. Especially with the new academy build etc. Im not worried in the slightest.

 

[stony]

Only a few months back I thought the general consensus on here was that we'll be fine and know what we are doing, playing their game. What the hell happened?

Jeez I should never look in this thread, makes me think we won't be a football club come next year.

Put your tampon back in and stop being such a bitch.<br /><br />-- Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:56 pm --<br /><br />

Only a few months back I thought the general consensus on here was that we'll be fine and know what we are doing, playing their game. What the hell happened?

Jeez I should never look in this thread, makes me think we won't be a football club come next year.

the silence from the Prestwich region is deafening

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